Tampa City Council - October 09, 2025
Chapters
Part 1
Start of Meeting
Item 1: E2025-15 - Commendation For Police Officer of the month
Item 2: E2025-15 - Commendation For ATU Employee of the month
Public Comments
Item 3: BA25-17438 - Reappoint Valerie Chuchman To Board
Item 4: BA25-17439 - Reappoint Jamie Jenkins To Board
Committee Reports
Item 50: VAC-25-18 - Alleyway near Twiggs/Jefferson/Nebraska
Item 51: HS25-17257 - Intersection of Himes Ave & Ohio Ave
Item 52: REZ-25-10 - 4202 North Seminole Avenue
Item 53: REZ-25-57 - 5101 N 34th St & 3404 E Wilder Ave
Item 54: REZ-25-59 - Sterling Ave & Himes Ave (multiple addresses)
Item 55: REZ-25-70 - 703 East Floribraska Avenue
Item 56: REZ-25-74 - 1318 West Arch Street
Item 57: REZ-25-78 - 801 East 26th Avenue
Item 65: CM25-17841 - Future Land Use Timeline Update
Item 58: DA25-18100 - 701 Channelside Drive
Part 2
Start of Meeting
Item 66: CM25-16989 - Gabe Hassan Bench Plaque
Item 62: INF25-17954 - Approve Bid For Tile Work
Item 67: CM23-2097 - Provide Update On Pipes
Item 69: CM25-16441 - Pickleball Court Regulations Report
Item 70: CM24-4303 - Land Development Reform Update
Information Reports and New Business
Alan Clendenin
9:06:53AM
Welcome to Tampa City Council. Did you guys miss us last week? It's good to be back in city hall. I would like to call this meeting to order and recognize Councilman Maniscalco for the invocation and he'll lead us in the pledge of allegiance.
Guido Maniscalco
9:07:06AM
Thank you very much. It is my honor today to welcome my brand-new intern, Mary Bryan. She's brand-new to the city. Just kidding. Everybody knows Mary Bryan. I was thinking what kind of bio and introduction do I give her. She is a legend who recently retired after a very wonderful career serving this community. We miss you, certainly. We're not saying any numbers today, but she's here today to give the invocation. If we could please stand. Mary, take it away. Jesus to bestow his blessings upon you all. I am honored and grateful to deliver the invocation to honor the many individuals who made sacrifices to bring me here today. Lisa especially. Dear lord, we ask that your message of kindness and love be embraced. Your message of wisdom and understanding be accepted. Your compassion to be felt and embodied by us. We struggle to adopt by example your lessons and to be copied. Your teachings and lessons are laid out for us. We walk quietly upon the earth hoping and aiming to make a difference. We see too often the short-comings and not the successes. The lord has given the word and it's up to us to follow it. We are humbled before the lord and his sacred grace which we ask for it to be granted to us. There is only one rule to follow. Listening, learning, and adopting the ways of the lord. We ask that God's holy blessing be granted and bestowed upon Tampa City Council, mayor, elected officials, first responders, teachers, and all those assembled here today. We ask that the good lord's holy shield guide and protect them throughout their deliberations. We ask that they be clear in spirit, clean in thoughts and wise in their determinations. We ask for these gifts to be granted in the name of the good lord Jesus, amen.
Alan Clendenin
9:09:43AM
Thank you, Mary. I tried to get her apprehended and escorted out of city hall when I saw her this morning, but they refused. Roll call, please.
Charlie Miranda
9:09:55AM
Here.
Guido Maniscalco
9:09:56AM
Here.
Lynn Hurtak
9:09:57AM
Here.
Luis Viera
9:09:58AM
Here. Clendenin?
Alan Clendenin
9:10:00AM
Here. I would like to make an announcement, Bill Carlson sent us a memo that he will be approximately one hour late this morning. So we anticipate his arrival sometime around 10ish. I'd like to have a motion to adopt the minutes from the september 18, 2025 workshop and evening session held on september 25. motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. A second from Councilman Viera. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? The Ayes have it unanimously. Thank you very much. Let's do the agenda approval. We have a motion -- a memo from chief Bennett requesting item 23 be pulled for discussion to be heard with item 62. 23 will be heard with 62. motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. On item number 59, it was misnoticed. We need to reschedule that to november 20, 2025, 1:30 p.m.
Lynn Hurtak
9:11:03AM
315 east kennedy boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.
Alan Clendenin
9:11:10AM
We have a motion from Councilman Hurtak, second from councilwoman -- we have a motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. A second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously. Thank you very much. Item 60, chief Bennett, no administrative update, correct? Item 61, memo from Dennis Rogero requesting to withdraw the item. Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilwoman Hurtak. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously. 62 to be heard with 23. already did that. 63 and 64 will be heard together. We'll be able to move that together, fyi. 65 --
Lynn Hurtak
9:11:53AM
63 and 64, I don't need people here for that.
Alan Clendenin
9:11:59AM
Does anybody need 63 and 64?
Lynn Hurtak
9:12:04AM
The additional information was supposed to -- the report was supposed to stand in place for coming.
Martin Shelby
9:12:14AM
If no questions, you can take that up at the end of the consent docket.
Alan Clendenin
9:12:18AM
Very good. Just making sure. 65, the planning commission has requested that item 65 be heard at a time certain before lunch. Motion?
Guido Maniscalco
9:12:29AM
So moved.
Alan Clendenin
9:12:30AM
What time do you think we should do that? 11:45? We have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco to hear item 65 at 11:45. Second from Councilwoman Hurtak. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Memo from Councilman Viera requesting that item 66 after lunch. Five minutes.
Luis Viera
9:12:54AM
Yes, sir. It shouldn't take me more than five or ten minutes. I do have to leave here at 11:45 for a lunch appointment I have on something. When do you think we'll come back from lunch? 1:30?
Alan Clendenin
9:13:10AM
Probably. We'll hear item 66 as first order of business when we come back from lunch. Item 67, staff will be present. Item 68, I'd like to have a motion to continue this item to november 6, 2025. it will arrive with another tree agenda that day.
Lynn Hurtak
9:13:29AM
Problem is november 6 is a written report. Not only do we want to move this to november 6, we want to --
Alan Clendenin
9:13:37AM
Councilman Carlson, that was your motion to have it as written. Do you mind if they combine both?
Lynn Hurtak
9:13:42AM
Staff to provide a written report on tree canopy study, we'll move that to a staff report.
Alan Clendenin
9:13:48AM
We'll basically combine the two together. Item number 68, motion to move that to november 6, 2025, and then combine that with the written report as an oral report that particular day. Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak -- Councilman Maniscalco, second from Councilman Carlson. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. 69 and 70, staff will be here to present. Item 71, need a motion to withdraw per Councilman Miranda. Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Carlson. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Can I get a motion to receive and file written reports 72 through 76. motion from Miranda. Second from Maniscalco. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. We have a motion to approve the agenda from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously. Thank you very much. This is one of the better days of the month. We have our wonderful first responders, our police here. Councilman Viera, why don't you kick that off, please?
Luis Viera
9:15:02AM
Thank you, sir. It is my great pleasure. Chief Bercaw, come forward. My great pleasure, council, to do the officer of the month. Today, we are honoring officer Mona noble who is officer of the month. We always do this to reflect the value of the community that we serve that supports our first responders, including our police officers as well as our firefighters. We'll invite Dr. chief Bercaw to come up and say some words.
Chief Bercaw
9:15:36AM
Good morning, council. Chief Bercaw here. I appreciate you all taking the time to honor the best of the best that we have. I'm extremely proud of all of our officers, all the machine and women of the tampa police department. As you know, we continue our crime reduction and improving the quality of life in the community. Every year to reduce crime, it gets more and more challenging because we are fighting our success from the previous year. Community outreach, pop-up bagel. We started something pop-up TPD where we go to apartment complexes. We went to silver oaks, Columbus court. Today meridian point to greet the kids when they get off the bus and you should see the smiles on their faces. Things like that are making a huge difference in our community. Those start with our new officers and the training. What you are about to hear today from officer Mona noble is why she is being recognized. She trains you in recruits before they come out on the street. Proud to recognize officer Mona noble as october 2025 officer of the month. For the past four years, she has been a vital member of our training unit, consistently demonstrating professionalism, initiative, and strong commitment to the development and success of our personnel. Over the past year, she has taken on an instrumental role in the department's holdover program, which this prepares the newly hired officers for our field training program for when they are out on the street paired up with a training officer. This program is essential in ensuring officers enter field training with knowledge and skills needed to successfully serve effectively. Officer noble's leadership has been exemplary. She sets high standards for both the instruction and the organization. Her responsibilities include developing schedules, creating lesson plans, conducting training sessions and managing the administrative needs of large classes. And in the past year, she has successfully overseen seven holdover classes, guiding 109 newly hired officers into our field training program. And most recently she coordinated one of the largest holdover classes in TPD history. In addition to this, while continuing her regular duties in the training unit. So beyond her leadership role in our holdover program, she has strengthened the training unit through innovation and dedication. Last month, she launched an instructor development program designed to prepare fellow officers to become more effective trainers. This initiative not only enhances the unit's instructional capability but also creates lasting benefits for the department. Her work underscores the importance of mentorship and professional growth in law enforcement. Also, she prepares newly hired officers for the success and equipping the instructors with the tools to lead them to the success. She has definitely made a lasting impact on our officers, and you can see that just from the success that we're having. So we are proud to announce officer Mona noble as well-earned and well-deserved recognition for our officer of the month. [ applause ]
Luis Viera
9:18:56AM
Thank you. Officer, there are some good folks in the community who would like to come up and honor you. Great job. Present you this plaque on behalf of the pba. Jill Witecki with Tampa Theatre. Thank you so much for the foundation that you build in our community. On behalf of the theater, we would like to present you with an annual membership. Come see some movies and shows with us at tampa's historic theater. [ applause ] brian Ford with The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Chief, officer noble, training those coming up is tremendous. You're helping leave a legacy and continue the legacy. We have a tradition at one buccaneer place, anybody that goes over and above gets a game ball. Hearing your story, I'm here on behalf of the Glazer family, our entire organization, to present you your very own game ball. Thank you for your extended efforts and your family as well for their support of you.
Alan Clendenin
9:20:01AM
Mr. Ford, can you please do me a favor? Please send a memo to the bucs organization to not make the games so heart-wrenching. Let's wrap this thing up in the third quarter because I'll have a heart-attack if they keep -- I'm much smarter as we win. Thank you. Mike Ac Arthur, Stepp's towing service. What a resum. Congratulations on a job well done. On behalf of Todd Stepp and Stepp's towing, gift card, night out on the town. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
9:20:40AM
When you're speaking, I know it's awkward, but if you can speak toward the microphone. Congratulations on winning this award. I truly appreciate everything you do for the city of tampa. Like I say, when I'm up here every single time that I'm here, I respect each and every one of you that put on the uniform every single day and makes it safe for the city of tampa. On behalf of Bill Currie Ford, present you a handwritten letter from Jennifer Curry herself along with a gift card. This is a certificate for free maintenance on your personal vehicle and other goodies in there as well. Congratulations. [ applause ] Mary Lou Bailey. I'm here on behalf of zoo tampa. I serve on the board at zoo tampa. Usually mark is with me and has this lovely basket with stuffed animals and goodies for the zoo and he's stuck in traffic like so many people this morning. I did want to come up and congratulate you. I was really impressed with your story. One of the things I wanted to comment on was not only training for skills, but the culture that the TPD has of the community partnership, caring, integrity. I know it all starts with the training. I wanted to thank you for that and thank everybody who serves. You guys are all awesome. This is a letter letting you know we're giving an annual membership to the zoo. Enjoy it in good health. Creatures of the night is going on. I'm going friday. You can go to the creatures event, holiday event, as well as anytime you want. I love animals. I hope you come to love them as well. We will get the gift basket to you. Congratulations and thank you. I appreciate it. [ applause ] officer noble, thank you so much for your service. Proficient it. I noticed before I presented this to you that I have a typo on it. I'll have to get you another copy. On behalf of friends of the riverwalk, present with you a personalized paver along the riverwalk. It's not in the ground. Hasn't been engraved. We're good to go. A couple of other gifts from corporate members, $200 gift certificate to Florida avenue brewing, a gift certificate to splitsville for either an adult's night out or a children's party. On behalf of hospitality, a couple of tickets for starship, pirate water taxi and riverwalk rentals. Enjoy those. Thank you, again. [ applause ] microphone here. [ laughter ]
Alan Clendenin
9:23:19AM
Did you hear that, everybody else?
Alan Clendenin
9:23:24AM
I bet if I went back to their grade school report cards, says the same thing, always turned around talking to somebody else. Officers and firefighters, I've learned how to do this. On behalf of the Ciccio restaurant group, providing with you a gift certificate. Enjoy yourself over there, breakfast, lunch, dinner. Jackson's bistro, enjoy yourself there, over on harbour island. On behalf of meat market in old Hyde Park, enjoy yourself over there for lunch or dinner. Yummy House China Bistro, I say this, the chief wants you to invite him to go there. Take these letters and certificates with you. We appreciate what you do. Obviously, training is the front line of making an excellent staff. We appreciate what you do for helping out with the staff. Congratulations. Thank you. I learned my lesson. I'm speaking forward.
Alan Clendenin
9:24:21AM
Thank you. [ applause ]
Luis Viera
9:24:29AM
Two more gifts from The Straz Center. Couldn't be here today. And from the Florida orchestra, gifts.
Luis Viera
9:24:40AM
Give them a round of applause. [ applause ] on behalf of a grateful city of tampa and Tampa City Council, it's our great honor to recognize you as the tampa police officer of the month. God bless you. Sudler, for putting me in for this award. It means a lot to me to be recognized and appreciated. A testament to his leadership where he acknowledges all of our unit, acknowledges all the good work we do. I would like to that can't my chain of command and staff for agreeing with the acknowledgment ultimately. Most importantly, I would like to thank my team at the training unit. Without them, I wouldn't have been able to be as successful as I was the last year. They truly provide a safety net where each of us can grow and learn and improve ourselves, where nobody is going to fail. We'll all help each other and be successful. I think that benefits the whole department. I would like to thank everybody here for the amazing generosity, more than I could have imagined. Thank you. [ applause ]
Alan Clendenin
9:25:54AM
Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
9:25:55AM
Thank you. Congratulations. Teaching is an art. Not everyone does it well. I just want to say, congratulations, because you obviously have found a niche that really works and fits. And when you have the teaching bug, even though you are an officer, the ability to do that is so critical, and we're so lucky that this is the path that you've chosen in the police department because I see it every time I ride with officers how respectful, how wonderful they are at their jobs, and it all starts with you and your team. I want to say congratulations and never let that teaching spirit leave you.
Alan Clendenin
9:26:38AM
Councilman Carlson.
Bill Carlson
9:26:39AM
Thank you so much for everything. With all the officers who are retiring and then the need for more officers, training is more and more important all the time and the public always asks for more training. In these times where things are on edge for everyone, we especially appreciate our men and women of law enforcement who are protecting us. Thank you so much for everything you are doing.
Alan Clendenin
9:27:04AM
On behalf of Councilman Carlson, Councilwoman Hurtak, Councilman Maniscalco, Councilman Miranda, and obviously Councilman Viera, I know you're standing up here representing an amazing workforce. This council is very appreciative of tampa police department and what they do for the community. It's nice to be able to recognize one of those members once a month. And thank you for being here. Appreciate your work and what you do for us. Thank you. [ applause ] we'll pause for one second to let folks filter out. Good morning. I'd like to recognize Councilwoman Hurtak to also recognize tampa heroes.
Lynn Hurtak
9:28:54AM
Good morning, everybody. We are here to honor our atu employee of the month. I will let the atu president, Steve Simon, take it away. Good morning, Mr. Chairman.
Alan Clendenin
9:29:06AM
Good morning. I'm Steve Simon, president of the amalgamated transit union local 1464 and we keep the city of tampa running. I'm happy to be here this morning to introduce you to the atu employee of the month, Mr. Darrio Davis. [ applause ] Mr. Davis has shown himself to be an integral part of the day-to-day operations of the wastewater collections division. Starting from humble beginnings as a service attendant 2, Darrio has uplifted himself through education and certifications, ultimately earning the position he has as a lead sewer service inspector. Day after day, he assists his supervisor by training his team, teaching implementation of new technology, planning and scheduling work, liaisons between wastewater engineering and support services, and always encouraging the team to move forward with positive outcome. Mr. Davis Also represents his craft and his department by frequently giving presentations at organizational meetings such as fipa, and the west coast Florida inspectors association. Mr. Davis Also leads our department in its continued effort to express and display equality by spearheading the annual entry of wastewater into the city of tampa mlk day parade. This has been done for over 20 years. It is for these things and others that make him accredited to his tenure. Mr. Darrio Davis has been selected as atu employee of the month award recipient. We appreciate everything that you do and your participation in keeping the city of tampa running. On behalf of atu local 1464, I would like to present you with this award. [ applause ] a portion of the letter from the mayor says: congratulations on being selected as the amalgamated transit union employee of the month for your professionalism, strong work ethics, enthusiasm, and for going above and beyond in all aspects in your position as lead sewer service inspector. You have earned the respect of your superiors, peers, and community. You are an asset, an integral part of the wastewater department and the city of tampa's mission of providing superior services and your proficiency and positive attitude make you highly deserving of this recognition. Sincerely, mayor Jane. Now, I would like to turn it over to deputy administrator of infrastructure, Brad Baird to say a few words, please.
Brad Baird
9:32:25AM
Good morning, city council, Chairman. I'm super excited about this one. Have a long history going back with Darrio, and we prepared this ordinance over 20 years ago. We were having overflows on a very regular basis associated with restaurants and not cleaning out their grease interceptors and not cleaning out grease traps. Darrio is the lead sewer service inspector or grease management inspector over a mighty team of four, including Darrio. He has been with the city of tampa over 27 years. I actually worked alongside with him before we had a grease ordinance to meet with the restaurants, all the grease haulers. This was a serious issue. It is our number one reason for overflows for wastewater overflows into the environment. It's one thing to write a grease ordinance that is now the premier number one grease ordinance in The United States of America, and it's looked as a model by everybody. It's one thing to do that and put it in place, but this mighty team executed it. And they executed it so flawlessly that we now have very few overflows associated with restaurants. All of our grease overflows now, or almost all of them, are because of grease discharges in neighborhoods. So they have done their job. They have knocked it out of the park. They inspect restaurant grease interceptors and grease traps at least once a year. Many times twice a year. And the thing that I admire most about this team and Darrio is they work directly with the restaurants to educate them before we cite them and educate them on how to clean it out, how often. Maybe theirs is undersized and they need to upsize it. They really work proactively up front. I couldn't be more proud of them, but I want to say these jobs are nasty. I don't know how to put it any other way. Spent a lot of time with Darrio in the field. They could be on the dirty job show, as I told the Chairman yesterday. But they knock it out of the park every day. And they work so hard. I'm very proud of these guys. We have three out of the four here today. With that, I'll turn it over to Darrio to say a few words, I think. I'm sorry --
Lynn Hurtak
9:35:35AM
We have some folks here that want to thank him. This is from the straz. It is two tickets to a show in january.
Alan Clendenin
9:35:50AM
Councilwoman Hurtak, the podium is this way. Councilwoman Hurtak, the podium is this way.
Lynn Hurtak
9:35:56AM
Oh, gosh. I'm not following the rules. We are going to ask people to look toward council. It is awkward. Now having done it, I get it. Come on down. We have a Florida panther here. They eat their food raw so they don't really contribute to the grease problem. We've got a fun day at the zoo here for you. I would recommend coming during creatures of the night, which is going on right now, friday, saturday, and actually this sunday. It's a fun event. We hope to see you there.
Lynn Hurtak
9:36:32AM
I always have to know, what did the officer of the month get? I got here just in time. Simon. First and foremost, congratulations on 27 years for our great city. That's tremendous. Another behind-the-scenes type guy, I appreciate what you do behind the scenes. Those in the limelight can get the job done. On behalf of the Glazer family and our entire organization, we have a little tradition. Anybody that goes over and above gets their own game ball. I have your game ball right here. Congratulations. I thank you and your family for all you do for the city and keep doing it. [ applause ] Mike Mcarthur, Stepp's towing. Always hard to follow the game ball. Congratulations on a job well done. Behalf of Todd Stepp and Stepp's towing, gift card, have dinner on us. Thank you for everything you do for the city. We appreciate it. Thanks again. [ applause ] Mr. Davis, Jill Witecki from Tampa Theatre. I will admit before today I had no idea we had a grease ordinance and how important it was and how good we are at it. Thank you and thank your whole team for being one of the people that do the jobs most of us don't know about every day that keeps the city running. On behalf of tampa theatre, this is an annual membership for you and a friend, spouse, whoever you would like to bring. Come see shows with us next year. [ applause ]
Steve Michelini
9:38:23AM
I want to tell you, first of all, he does a great job. When he says he goes out and checks the restaurants, he goes out and checks the restaurants. I hope that all of these folks are in good standing with you. I believe that they are. One of the things that Darrio instituted, which is a great help to him and his staff and also to the restaurants, is to keep a log of when those grease traps are serviced, what the volume was and when the next service occurs. I'll tell you a funny story about when Darrio first went on the job. When Busch brewery was active, they were pumping their liquid effluent, not the solids, but the liquid effluent into the sanitary sewer system. And because of that -- I don't want to get in too much detail -- it predigests the effluent that's in the pipes. So it actually is better than most of the other sanitary sewer systems. Darrio Called me and said, I don't know, we're testing this, and it's looking better. It's not impacting our system. What are we going to do about it? I said, well, you should give us a credit and not charge us for pretreating the effluent. But anyway, I have a couple of folks here who would like to honor you. Like I said, Darrio is on speed dial for me and I'm on speed dial for him. So whenever any of our folks get a little behind, we knock him around a little bit and get him in order. On behalf of the Ciccio restaurant group, which I know he knows very well, we're providing you with a gift certificate on behalf of Yummy House China Bistro, a gift certificate, meat market over there in Hyde Park and Jackson's bistro on harbour island and take your letters and take your gift certificate. We do appreciate what you do. Appreciate it. [ applause ]
Lynn Hurtak
9:40:39AM
I'm here to present our commendation from City Council. We want to say thank you so much for all the work you do. Would you like to say a few words? Good morning, everyone. Just want to say, first and foremost, just thank god for this opportunity with him all things are possible, without him, nothing. I just want to say this is a very humbling experience. I appreciate all of those who had a hand in the nomination and deliverance of my name being selected as atu employee of the month. I have a great team. Without my team and a few of those here with me, this is just not possible. I am just deeply, deeply grateful. I am just so humbled by this. I just want to say to a gentleman that has known me almost 30 years and has told me at the beginning of this journey, go make me proud. I hope, Brad, I have done so over that time frame. I want to say thank you once again to everyone involved. I appreciate everything, and everything is just amazing. Thank you so much. [ applause ]
Alan Clendenin
9:42:15AM
I will say, just like the person who spoke earlier, it wasn't until I got elected to Tampa City Council that I knew the job even existed and what a problem it is to have this issue. The things you learn day to day, you never stop learning. Also, when I spoke with Brad yesterday, the giddiness and excitement you saw today was not just for the cameras, it was on the telephone call, he was just as giddy and just as excited about the job you did and spoke very highly of you without you standing there. He's saying it to people when you're not around as well. This City Council, we're very happy for you and your team and what you do for the city of tampa and the loss prevention that you provide and saving taxpayer money for the job that you do. Very much appreciate it. Thank you so much. [ applause ] marty shelby, would you like to kick off public comment?
Martin Shelby
9:43:21AM
Good morning, Mr. Chairman. Glad you asked me about public comment. I thought you wanted me to kick off. [ laughter ]
Alan Clendenin
9:43:28AM
I'm the funny one.
Martin Shelby
9:43:30AM
Martin Shelby, city council attorney. Good Morning, members of the public. I'd like to discuss very briefly with those in the audience today the rules of decorum for public comment. Members of the public are allowed a reasonable opportunity at the start of today's meeting to address any item on the agenda before City Council takes official action on that item. Now, if you wish to speak during general public comment, that's this section coming up, it is for those people who are here to talk on staff reports. If it's listed on the agenda as a staff report or it's listed on the agenda as a consent item, public comment, general public comment at the start of the meeting is the time to talk. If you are here for something listed as a public hearing, the time to talk at that point would be at the time that item is called up on the agenda. Now, if you wish to speak during general public comment, hopefully you filled out a speaker card and placed it in the box outside the chambers. One card per speaker. Cards are accepted until the start of general public comment. Each person submitting a card will be recognized by name to approach and speak. I'd like to point out in accordance with the rules of procedure, those people who are here to speak on an item listed on the agenda will be given preference as opposed to those people who wish to speak on off-agenda items, you'll have that opportunity after the people on the agenda items get to speak. A three-minute time limit applies to all speakers. Please print legibly. Names that cannot be read will not be called. If you are here to speak at a public hearing as opposed to general public comment, please use the sign-in sheet outside the chambers instead. If you need assistance, please see city staff. Speakers and members of the public are also reminded to please refrain from disruptive behavior, including making vulgar or threatening remarks or making or causing disruptive noises or sounds or displaying signs or graphics. The chair will rule out of order any person who speaks without being recognized or attempts to address The City Council from outside the speaker area at the podium. Persons failing to comply with council rules may also be ruled out of order and at the discretion of the chair may be removed from the chambers for the remainder of today's meeting. Finally, city council should refrain from engaging a speaker under public comment. The public should be aware that city council does not take your questions or have a dialogue with you during public comment. This is your opportunity to express your position. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
9:46:05AM
Thank you, Mr. Shelby. We're going to begin. Once again, the first speakers will be the folks that signed up to speak on agenda items. Mark. Sorry to slaughter your name. Followed by Jeff Jankiewicz. Challenge with the first two names. I didn't have Councilwoman Hurtak here to help me with them. My name is Mark Siebenaller. I am owner and city resident within the channel district. I'm here to talk about agenda number 58 which has to deal with wow. Also on the cac for the channel district. I had the opportunity to see possibly the presentations you're seeing today it already. I'm not here to talk about a yea or nay. I'm here to talk about potentially needs that were not covered in the presentation that we saw that I think our city responsibilities that need to take place. They were talking about a structure to go up and needs for other things around it to make sure this thing is successful. In the packet I just handed out to you, here are some of the things, both from my commentary and commentary on social media and other residents that I have talked about. The first item is the wow is going to be built up. Next to the trolley stop where the aquarium is and directly behind that in that parking area. Basically, it is right on Channelside. There is going to be a distraction both from the traffic coming into the city and down that street, and it is 250 feet in height. So you are going to have people looking up, going. We're concerned from a mobility standpoint of the safety that's going to be there. It is going to be definitely a major distraction in that area. So with that in mind, let's see what we can do to try to minimize any potential accidents in the area. Speeding, I'll show you a picture, on one side of the road directly across from the area as you come into the city, it is 25 miles an hour. On the other side coming out, going to Adamo, it is 35, which we've questioned this with mobility in the past. Never really got a response back to why that is. Is there a potential now to consider speed humps, speed bumps to be put on Channelside to prevent potential accidents that could happen here? Also, we've had a situation reported to mobility at the intersection of whiting and Channelside where there is a pedestrian generated crossing that the signage or the lighted signage when you push the button does go off. It does not -- if you are 50 feet away from it, you can't see it. We've requested some attention there. Continue to go through quickly, we also have blocked signage because of the trees and the oaks there. Noise pollution is a major issue in the city but more so here. Probably the major one we're requesting maybe from a police behavior standpoint is we have bad behavior. We know we live in a society where we have people that are doing actions that need to draw attention.
Alan Clendenin
9:49:57AM
Thank you very much. Get a chance.
Alan Clendenin
9:50:01AM
I appreciate the input. Jeff, followed by Nancy Stevens. My name is Jeff Jankiewicz, owner and resident in the channel district. I returned to tampa and found out that wow was in the news and a big topic. I started to search for information. I couldn't find very much. I looked in the news and so forth. What I did find is the scale of the project was going to be on one-third acre in the parking lot near the aquarium. I had some questions because although it is supposed to be 250-foot wheel, the space would only be one-third acre, is only 250 feet by 60 feet. So that probably most likely couldn't be the full footprint. I would like to get more information or have information available to the public as to how the plan looks, works, and some documentation. There is greenspace right next to it. I don't know if they plan on taking the greenspace away or not. That was a question. I also found in some of the news that the equipment was to be refurbished. That indicated to me it might be used, and if it is used, where was it before? What year was it designed? When was it manufactured? And how did it actually come about to be available and what are the reasons and so forth? I'm familiar with these, living in Singapore, spending a lot of time in China, Chicago, there is usually a lot of noise around these type of things, these wheels. They also do advertising. There's also a high level of illumination at night. I was just wondering if those were considered or a part of the plan. I really have not been able to find any information on it. That's pretty much what I have there. I'm here looking for information and hopefully I can get it and other people are watching on tv also who are interested in this. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
9:52:29AM
Thank you, Jeff.
Martin Shelby
9:52:31AM
I'm sorry for not bringing this up sooner. Just want to let you know, council and the public, that this is set for a public hearing at 10:30 a.m. it is not quasi-judicial; however, we could ask people to wait until 10:30. Unless council sometimes on non-quasi-judicial matters, they let them speak at the start if they don't wish to wait. It is scheduled for 10:30 time certain. I want to bring that to the public's attention.
Alan Clendenin
9:53:02AM
I think you covered that in your first remarks. Today, the presentation is just a presentation. A lot of these questions you asked hopefully will be answered during that presentation.
Alan Clendenin
9:53:14AM
We've got nancy, followed by Stephanie Poynor. Today, I want to speak about item 69, the pickleball report. I'm concerned about the potential spread of pickleball courts throughout residential neighborhoods. I'm looking to have council -- urge council to adopt measures that maintain neighborhood peace and quality of life. Standard pickleball courts are 44 by 20 feet. They fit on many residential lots. We've seen real estate ads with homes with room for pickleball courts. The potential for these popping up throughout neighborhoods is increasing. Pickleball courts are quite loud. Pickleballs measured up to 85 db. Impact noise. Very sharp impact noise. Freight train is about 80 db. So that's loud. A noise study conducted at the tampa yacht club found that pickleball courts regularly exceed the spirit of the noise ordinance, even at homes across the street. What can be done? Well, the noise ordinance doesn't specifically cover the type of sound from pickleball courts. Impact noise. Noise ordinance should be looked at and updated to cover that noise. It should be enforced so that neighbors aren't negatively impacted. You could consider requiring cushioning for the pickleball courts which would reduce the noise, limiting play hours and activity levels, including not allowing lights. Restrict courts to personal use only. No team practice, prohibit rentals, team practices. Allow courts only as part of residence, not a stand-alone court in a residential lot. So thank you. Please enforce the existing codes. I guess some recommendations later on. Look to other cities for code ordinances and help balance our community's peace and quiet and enjoyment of outdoor sports.
Alan Clendenin
9:55:27AM
Thank you, nancy. Stephanie Poynor. Who is paying for it? It doesn't say anywhere in there who is paying for it. Number 15, the vulnerability study. This is one of the ones that baffles my brain. It is for stormwater and for sea level rise. Yet 60, $80 million project on howard avenue before we get back the vulnerability study. Doesn't make sense to me. Number 18, why are we environmentally studying Bacardi Park, 1810 north tampa street. Remains me of the survey on the aquarium that came up on the agenda a couple of months ago, I was like, why are we doing this? Now we know why? What is going on with the park that all of a sudden we feel we need to do work. The racial reconciliation board. I would argue the human rights board, maybe some of the folks belong on that board. Similar purpose and prospect. Human rights board hasn't met since 2021, I think. I could be wrong. Bayside dredging. I know this. When I send vendors out to work for me, I had a tree issue. Somebody trimmed up a tree for me. They sent me before pictures and after pictures. If these guys are dredging all of our outfalls, I want to see before-and-after pictures. I'm sure all of you remember the pictures that my friend Ms. Cannella Sent to you. They didn't look after-ish. They looked before-ish. I want to know that they have been cleaned. I've had vendors who told me, hey, I steam cleaned your carpet. No, that's crap. You shouldn't. I got down there and smelled it with my very own nose and it wasn't clean. We have to check up on these things. Pickleball, ridiculous. Never ever should be on a residential lot. Most lots in the city of tampa, vast majority of them are not over an acre because you would need that much distance from your next-door neighbor to not be impeding on their personal space by Bang, bang, banging all the time. I'm very excited to see the charter review coming forward. I hate it that we have to put the racial reconciliation board to bed because we need something there. You don't have to call it racial reconciliation. You can call it something different. They can do a lot of the same things that were necessary. Thank you. Have a good day.
Alan Clendenin
9:57:56AM
Thank you. Darryl, followed by Alison Hewitt. Daryl Hych. September 22 I sent an e-mail to everyone on the dais relative to item number 32, the rescinding or the dismantling of the racial reconciliation committee. I want to read to you just a couple of excerpts that I wrote in the e-mail to you all that I would love to hear a response from. As a result of the president's executive order prohibiting any race-based funding and a letter received from the city of tampa's attorney, it is vitally important to consider alternative methods to address the concerns of resolution 568 and 344. upon reviewing Chapter 163 of the CRA, this particular chapter does not violate the president's executive order. Yet it encourages the very changes we sought in resolution 568. on a recent teams call with city council member Luis Viera, attorney Martin Shelby and city council aide brandon Jordan, I brought up several different suggestions as to how we may be able to move forward. One thing was stated, I said we can leverage the CRA funds to establish a defined, dedicated corridors in neighborhoods with documented slum and blight. Establish transparent, accountable processes, fostering collaboration between the city of tampa, the CRA, and what Stephanie just stated, I stated that we could name this thing the community renewal and opportunity commission. Whereas, you would only be going and operating within the state statute 163. in the same e-mail I respectfully encourage The City Council to amend the CRA redevelopment plan to formally designate dedicated corridors that align with the resolution 568 and Chapter 163, direct CRA resources to these corridors with eligibility driven by neighborhood disinvestment indicators and not race. These particular suggestions were various things we talked about. You have the e-mail. I don't want to continue to go forward with reading the various points. But I will state, I am very frustrated, not so much as with you, but yet I am frustrated with you as well as I'm frustrated with the citizens of the black community because we had an opportunity to stand before you four years prior to this coming to pass from the executive order. Now we have to now look for another way forward for this racial reconciliation commission. I ask you, and I admonish you, to look at the human rights committee, look at various ways to how we can move this thing forward versus letting it die on the vine. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:01:12AM
Thank you very much. Alison Hewitt followed by Connie Burton. Item number 10, 2804 east Columbus was The Elks Lodge. It's been demolished. Also bring to your attention The Cra East Tampa Crp and ask for you to be able to work with the building owners before it has to get to demolition. Also with Chapter 163 saying that nothing can go for new construction for commercial, what we're doing is also having these areas, these lands able to have right for gentrification. Now the land is so expensive, people locally cannot afford it. Please follow the Crp and have your staff make sure they are working with the landowners to try to save the property. That also goes for item number 11. when we did the Crp, one of the main things in east tampa was the code enforcement and the code violations, and we need to make sure that we're staying in the purpose of the crp and we're knocking down houses here and knocking down commercial. So if we can make sure that we're working with those landowners and property owners before it gets to this spot. The Racial Reconciliation Commission, item number 32, I would like to know if we are going to plan a workshop to say, okay, since the federal government says we can't do it, what can we do local. We have made tremendous strides to be able to address the racial disparities and the tension between races here in tampa and how do we protect that? Because D.c. Is not here. They don't live here. They are not here day to day. What are your intentions to be able to move forward? The last item, it was a staff report. Number 73. the status of the city working with additional funds for urban reworx. We will have several funding applications coming forward. Is this a precedent? Will all these type of requests go for all of the housing projects? And how do we address that? Because our people would like to make sure that there is equity in distribution and fairness and also that white developers don't get more attention than local developers who look like the people who live in the community. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:03:36AM
Thank you, Allison. Connie Burton followed by John Heller. Good morning, connie. Connie Burton. History is going to record everything. And one thing I know, the after-thoughts, what you could have done, what you should have done and what you should have stood up for. I feel embarrassed, embarrassment for a country that has to follow orders from someone that was elected by the people, so they say, that has so much dirt and filth and bigotry and racism connected to them and you say we must follow orders. We must follow hitler. We must follow any dictate they're come against the people. This quick response that the city did, because we receive federal dollars, show me ways in which you, The City Council, you, the ones that recognize harm and hurt that have been done to african people to this city, established since 1855, tell me what you have done to leverage the playing field. Tell me what you have done since the civil rights act based on the history of injustice and enslavement and segregation and Jim Crow-ism that you did to say that we was going to be the city on the hill. Very little or nothing. The five issues that was in the racial reconciliation issue that you've had opportunity to stand up against, one of the programs, one of the topics was youth opportunity. You can't even bring yourself to say for a summer job program, you can get to a hundred. You let the city come in here and tell you with $1.9 billion all you can do is hire 32 young people. You can talk about second chance opportunities. Got somebody in the spot for the city but can't come in here and say how then have we been able to establish real programs to help people come back into society. For me, you are no different than what I see in Washington, D.c. They told us we couldn't do it. That's federal dollars. We want to know what you're going to do with your dollars. What are you going to do to bring yourself into some type of humanity to show those that labor hard in this country, labor hard in this city, deserving more than just piece meal. Giving a dollar to a nonprofit. Giving infill lots to one or two black folks and then you think it's all right. Hell no, it is not. We shall remember all of you. All of you shall be remembered. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:06:32AM
Thank you, connie. John Heller followed by Gladney Darroh. Good morning, John. Good morning, city council. I'm here regarding --
Alan Clendenin
10:06:52AM
Start with your name, please. Everybody who speaks, start with your name first. My name is John Heller. Nice to meet you guys. I'm here for agenda 69, the pickleball courts. I think you'll hear a lot of people talking about the noise issues. I live in a hundred-year-old house in ballast point. My main concern are the pickleball courts taking away greenspace. I think that's something you guys also need to consider when you're looking at agenda number 69. I have a neighbor two houses north of me looking to build one. Water flows north to south. My main concern is, obviously, noise, but also the water runoff. It will go into my yard again. I'm just one house, but that's something I think the city council here should also consider when reviewing agenda item 69. thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:07:48AM
Thank you, John. Gladney Darroh followed by Pastor Williams.
Martin Shelby
10:08:03AM
If you can, normally, it's hard to put into the clerk's file. What is it you are handing out?
Martin Shelby
10:08:19AM
Which number? 69. thank you, sir.
Alan Clendenin
10:08:27AM
Go to the podium and start with your name. Good morning, sir. I live on trilby street in the ballast point neighborhood. I'm here to speak today about pickleball courts and to urge city council, should not allow pickleball courts to be constructed on residentially zoned single-family properties within our neighborhoods. There are many, many reasons not to allow this, but I'm going to focus today on a reason that I think is very important. It's not normally considered, because it's important as those other issues are. The construction of pickleball courts in residential neighborhoods also creates serious additional stormwater runoff and rapidly rising floodwater hazards for homeowners and their families. Plus, it places the city of tampa at risk of being in direct violation of Fema stormwater compliance requirements and puts the city in direct violation of its own code. I would like to show you the flooding -- this is the flooding that occurred on our street in hurricane helene. The issues I just mentioned to you are created because there are deficiencies with current city processes around approving applications for permits. These deficiencies may be created because stormwater regulations are in Chapter 21 of the code. Building code, floodplain is Chapter 5, zoning code is Chapter 27. for whatever reasons, stormwater review is not done for certain applications and the remaining reviewers, that is those not centrally tasked with implementation of Chapter 21, either don't understand the water retention requirements or have a different interpretation of the technical manual. For us and neighbors, this results in increased flooding. In the spiral binder I just handed you, you will find in there this particular calculation that was submitted for the property that is next door to us and referenced in the ballast point letter 5607 Bayshore Blvd. Blvd. boulevard. This particular application shows that the total proposed impervious area is 4,000 -- square feet. He comes up with a calculation of 70 cubic feed of storage received. That is an incorrect calculation. Correct calculation at least 206, up to 270 cubic feet because it is based on the entire area of the property when you have an impervious surface area that exceeds 50%. This one clearly is 76.7%. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:11:43AM
Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Pastor Williams, you are next. Darlene. Good morning, Pastor Williams. My name is Pastor Williams. I was located on 1112 east scott street. But somehow or another they tricked me into selling my church. I never got nothing for it. Worth nothing. But you know what, I got to be honest with you all. We come up here week after week talking about certain things, but you all don't seem to feel no tension. Now I'm not worried about talking about what I need to talk about. Talk about you all president. What can we do to get him impeached? Get him out of office. This man don't mean us no kind good whatsoever. He don't care nothing about us and don't care nothing about you. Seems like you all do, just sit there and tell us about speak at public comment. I try to tell you all time after time, Jackson Heights, Belmont heights, whole city sewage canal. We are citizens of The United States, and we want to be recognized as citizens of The United States. Not about the color of our skin. We don't care nothing about the color of our skin. Treat us like a citizen, because that's all we want to ask you all to do. We don't ask you too much because we know you all not going to do anything, help us whatsoever. But we got to understand, I got to give recognition to the god almighty because he is the one that woke me up this morning. He is the one that woke you up this morning. He gives you the strength to be here and be on time. You know what, we got to understand, we got to recognize one another. We got to respect one another. That's all we ask you all to do. Respect us. Connie Burton, she spoke real loudly and spoke very clearly, don't seem to care nothing about people of color and that's what I got to call it, people of color. Jews, the indians, the blacks, the white, everybody else. We got to understand, we are here to try to represent people, and that's what life is all about. Show one another some love. Show us love and we'll show you all some love, what love is all about. And this is what we got to do. We come down here week after week, especially changes, no changes be made yet whatsoever. You all supposed to be city council men and you all supposed to tell us what we can do and what we can't do. It's always what we can't do. Respect us as people. God bless all of you all. I'm getting out of here.
Alan Clendenin
10:15:12AM
We appreciate you. Matthew Guinn followed by Tarah Bluma. Good morning, Matthew. Wheel over water or wow. I'm a tampa bay resident. Have been my whole life. Went to usf for undergrad, Stetson law for my law degree. I'm proud to call this city and the area my home. I would like to point out that the project brings more than just a view from a wheel. It brings jobs, tourism and energy to the channel district. I would also like to point out, it is a $20 million private investment, not taxpayer funded. That would help local businesses and create a new reason for people to spend more time downtown. I'll also point out that cities like Seattle, London, Las Vegas, have seen how signature wheel in those cities have become part of their identity. I think tampa deserves something like that too. It will give reasons for families and residents more to do right here in tampa. And something that is fun, accessible, and can become uniquely ours. It will connect people to the sky line and the bay in a new way and reflects that the city is growing and moving forward. I think it is something that will be beneficial to our city. I urge you all to support it. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:16:50AM
Thank you, Matthew. Tarah Bluma, followed by Dr. Carolyn Collins. I strongly disagree with the gentleman before me --
Alan Clendenin
10:17:00AM
Start with your name. About the wheel. It is not innovative like he said. Many other cities, including Las Vegas, London, Singapore, Atlanta have wheels. It's not a new, novel, clever idea. It's not much of a job creator. I don't know how many teenagers it takes to operate a ferris wheel, but couple, maybe at most. You're removing parking from the aquarium, which is sorely needed. There's not a lot of information in Onbase about this so far. It says it's going to be sublet from the aquarium and doesn't say for how much, how much money are we making off of that very valuable real estate for the next 30 years. It does say in there that only -- that the land can only be used to build this ferris wheel and nothing else, but what happens in ten years when people are bored of the ferris wheel? What is the provision for the land to revert back either to the city or what else can be built there? Regardless, even if you think a ferris wheel sounds fun, it is not going to be fun for the next 30 years, and it's not the best use of the valuable real estate. The next thing I want to talk about is the tree fund. I understand this got refiled, but the beginning of the powerpoint basically says that we had 20,000 trees removed citywide since 2019. we've had almost 8,000 removed in south tampa. Citywide, since 2019, they have replaced 2300 trees of which over a thousand of them are crape myrtles, which are not shade trees. In fact, I think that should be removed from the list. But the city could be planting trees all over the place. We could use some of that money even for irrigation. One example I want to give you is that Westshore elementary, which is celebrating it's 100-year anniversary next year, there used to be 25 grand oaks that lined Westshore that provided shade to the kids walking to school. Many of those kids still walk to school. Only two trees remain there. Yes, I realize it's school owned but that's in the right-of-way. We could be helping them improve their irrigation, helping them plant the trees. There are places like this all over south tampa. To stand up here like the parks director did, mobility director, excuse me, several months ago to say we can't find anywhere to plant the trees is disingenuous and lazy. I would be happy to help you find places to plant the trees. But I do not support taking even one dollar out of the south tampa tree fund and allocating that anywhere else. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:20:01AM
Thank you, Tara. Dr. Carolyn Collins Followed by Bobby Creighton. Good morning, doctor. Thank you for this opportunity. Interesting day. I'm looking at number 43 on the agenda today, and I want to just say this. Three weeks ago, the council actually addressed the alley vacate for The Jackson House, and we were not here. We were not aware of it, and we are in support of that because it goes in with our easement. So I wanted to make sure that when the jackson house was back on the agenda again that we come back to let you know and to thank you, to thank the accardis, thank the city, everyone involved. And I want to give a special thanks. I was actually at a celebration of life in Delaware, and I got a call. Thank you to Councilman Carlson because he actually let me know that had occurred. I wanted to come today to say the Jackson House foundation is in support of the closure of vacating the alley. I'll be honest with you, we never really wanted to vacate the alley, but there is not a choice. We now have our easement on the east and west side. We are vacating the alley with the clear understanding that we get 50% of that at the width behind The Jackson House. We thought there was some paper work we needed to do. Thank you, thank you, thank you. They indicated that it is written in the vacating law, so there's nothing we need to do. That helped us to further on with what we are doing. I wanted to also present to you guys today, and I'm not going to do it, because the state has not put their check yet, but we have done our quarterly report. As we've indicated, it has been submitted. We always do it between the first and fifth of the month. Due after the last day of the previous month in three months. So ours was submitted I think on the third. We spoke with them at Tallahassee. As soon as they go in and say it's approved then we'll submit that. We don't want to submit something that's not approved and we may be required to make changes. In addition to that, we will include in that packet the repairs from the emergency restoration that we had to do. I have that, but I don't want to give that as well. So, yes, we support it, and we support it with the understanding that there be comparable sharing based on the law of what we will receive. We thank you for all that you have done. We thank all that have been involved, and we're moving forward with the Jackson House reconstruction rebuild.
Alan Clendenin
10:23:13AM
Thank you, Dr. Collins. Did you get with Darlene and reference the one issue we're dealing with with the closure? She was looking for more information. Did you get with Darlene? She said you had more information for the closure with the F.d.o.t. That we spoke about? With her.
Alan Clendenin
10:23:34AM
Thank you so much. Bobby, followed by Ron Weaver. Bobby Creighton, here to speak on item number 10, regarding demolition of two properties in the east tampa area. I want to start by reminding the council that the threshold for demolition in tampa is very high. A building must be in a significant state of deterioration by the time the city gets involved with any demolition. I've had conversations with several of you about the criteria that are set. Some background on these two properties, one is in my neighborhood. I drive by it almost every day. It was purchased in 2008. it had a rental certificate in 2011. it was rented at the time when it was demolished. The tenants who were living there were living in dangerous conditions. The building was unfit for habitation. Risk for deleterious effects on the health of the residents of the tenants living in that building. The second building was on Columbus drive in 2022, that building was purchased in a tax deed auction because the owners were unable to pay their property taxes on the property. There was an attempt to build townhomes by the purchaser. That was unsuccessful. It was sold in 2024 to an investor. Now we're at the state where the building has come down. My question relates to the lien policy of the city, hard cost to abate are not negotiable, and they shall be paid in full prior to release of a lien. That's the language in the policy. Further on in the policy, it says prior to release of the lien, city must receive payment of the negotiated settlement. So I would just like some clarity if the amount shall be paid in full. Also a negotiated settlement, what that means. Further on, it says the legal department may depart from following settlement guidelines with good cause. But it's not clearly defined what that means. I think some of the language in the policy, at least for the public, should be clarified. The big question is, if a settlement is negotiated for pennies on the dollar, with a taxpayer subsidy for llcs with a track record of imposing dangerous living conditions on residents in low-income neighborhoods, why should we accept that? I think that is a reasonable question. Of course, city funds and CRA funds for rehabilitation should be expended to support property owners who are responsible in maintaining their buildings. I don't think anybody would argue with that. Code enforcement has reported during prior city council meetings that they stay abreast of best practices in code enforcement. And I think with the amount of complaints that you hear from residents from the public, that I hear all the time about Llc owners and landlords that aren't taking care of their tenants and property, why not have a presentation with an expert in that domain with code enforcement input so we can understand exactly where we are with policy and what the best practices really are and if we are applying them. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:26:46AM
Thank you, bobby. Ron Weaver. Fyi, we have ten speakers left. Followed by Richard Barrett. I rise for two occasions. One is item 58 regarding the naming of a signage and recognition of the levy brothers. George and Leonard Levy twins born in 1933 to solomon levy in Tampa, Florida. How could the parents know how those two precious twins would completely change the landscape of this community in a hundred different ways, getting us the buccaneers, getting us those four super bowls, getting us the 1999 final four. Getting us 2017 first college playoff game. Clemson versus Alabama. Then they turned to philanthropy. In philanthropy they chaired the united way, chaired half a dozen other organizations and provided aparicio-levy technical trade school that provides for the needs for those who most need it with respect to training for their careers. Indelible impression of not only recognition of pride in ourselves and recognition of our people and recognition of their needs, they also recognized in their service to this community the ability of this community to bring itself up by the bootstraps. As businessmen, trophy company of George Grew from a few to over 300 people. Leonard's Hillsborough printing he started in 1955 as the humblest sales clerk ended up owning and buying 2005, sold it in 2006. I rise for second occasion, besides the naming of the area around north himes and Ohio, by the stadium cross walk for George and Leonard Levy but also rise on the occasion of the wheel. Since I've spoken of the two big wheels, Ohio and himes, I speak briefly to the wheel with one question. If the discussion turns to the need to create a riverwalk from the current terminus of the tampa bay history center, deal with security issues, deal with the governmental issues, deal with the federal issues and take it up to the haya hotel in Ybor City so our precious riverwalk, getting a West River blessing, thankfully, will create a vibrant horseshoe worthy of George and Leonard Levy with respect to not only tourism, but the safe walking and biking of our people along the channel -- I think I have 25 seconds left -- the safe walking and biking of all of our people and also in honor of George and Leonard Levy to be able to get to our sports team if we put one there or start a trail toward the stadium if you put it at the tampa stadium. Wherever we put our next hundred resources, this community needs a riverwalk extension along the channel from the current terminus of the tampa bay history center, along the water to the haya hotel. Two years ago, I asked Darryl Shaw -- finish with one sentence, I asked Darryl Shaw when I ride my bike to the haya, could you please make sure I get saltwater on it. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Alan Clendenin
10:30:06AM
Richard Barrett followed by our online speaker, Michael Randolph. Richard Barrett. I am the son-in-law of Leonard Levy. I'm married to his oldest daughter Janna. Thank you for the approval of the honorary street name after the levy twins. They had a deep and abiding love for the city. I can't tell you how much this honor means to the entire family. I also want to express my appreciation to Dc Goutoufas for leading this effort and Ron Weaver for heartfelt advocacy. Thank you very much.
Alan Clendenin
10:30:47AM
Thank you very much. Mr. Randolph, good morning. Thank you for your patience. After Mr. Randolph, it will be Ryan Hayes and my favorite tampa dog. My name is Michael Randolph. I'm going to talk about today is the beyond the breaking point, the nonprofit crisis. The nonprofit sector is in a crisis. In 2025, federal funding disruption hit hard. One of three organizations faced delays or cuts. Over 25 -- over 20 percent lost funding entirely. Stop work orders, health services. More than 22,000 jobs and some say 40,000. This wasn't just a budget cut. Fractured a support system of our community, that our community relied on. It gets worse. In 2026, 2027, a proposed 163 billion dollar reduction in domestic spending, education, housing, public health and environmental programs. Community service black men lost $770 billion. Rental assistance slashed by 30 billion. Workforce development program faced elimination. The results. Nonprofit housing, health care and refugee community scaled back or shut down. Vulnerable population without support. At the heart of the crisis is even deeper in terms of injustice. Black females, black women received the least nonprofit funding of all the leadership careers. Despite leading some of the most impactful community organizations, they are expected to drive changes with minimal resource. This isn't just a funding gap. It is a structural barrier to equity and generational impact. We are beyond the crisis. October the 30th, workshop surviving the new norm, a national workshop hosted by the center for nonprofits and community development. 30,000 funders in the original foundation and corporations that actually fund and learn new language used in terms of getting grants. More than over 30,000 people, organizations fund nonprofits. Nonprofits have to understand, grants to earned income model that supports the sustainability by selling goods as well as services. We have to move.
Alan Clendenin
10:34:14AM
Thank you, sir. Before Michael and cara get up here, correct the record. Cara was my fourth favorite dog. In case the others are watching. I don't need the drama when I get home. Ryan Hayes, president of Cairo and friends, tampa native. I would just like to recognize the individuals and families that negatively suffered from hurricane Milton. Today is the anniversary. I haven't heard anybody speak about that in the audience and so forth. I just really wanted to shed some light about that. I'm a humanitarian. With individuals that did suffer a negative impact from both hurricanes, I don't want to put too much spotlight on the city members, but I would like to reach out to the city of tampa, to their community and their engagement department and Cairo and friends, we would like to donate -- I don't want to put a value or a number on it -- but a plethora of items for this up and coming christmas. I'm not an individual that likes to celebrate too much of pagan holidays, but I do understand that a lot of families are still suffering. A lot of families lost everything. We are individuals that lost 90% of our personal possessions. Both of our vehicles and also our community hub. It weighs severely me on me that it's kind of not being addressed and people aren't speaking about it. I'm here to speak to the people that have suffered. I would like to put my business card or our business card up here. If anybody has personally went through this devastation or if you know someone that has went through this devastation, and if you know they need help, please e-mail us. Please don't call. I would like to have a track record, but please e-mail us and we will make sure to help any individual and any families out there once again that suffer from either hurricane helene or Milton. And we do offer complementary pet therapy services which is called alternative decompression therapy, which is utilizing two other dogs, Cairo, he is my service dog. Cleo and luna. One is a labradoodle. One is a golden doodle. They offer majestic and unique abilities to ground individuals and -- that's it. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:36:55AM
Elise batsel followed by Eric page. Good morning, elise. We're deferring? Eric page. West Boyscout Boulevard. I am not here to speak on agenda item 69. here to speak on two in particular, pickleball courts. Legal counsel for a number of residents that own property adjoining the tampa yacht and country club. They would be here personally but they are concerned about speaking in public and the potential repercussions because they live in the neighborhood. In 2016, club submitted an application to rezone site plan development. Site plan accommodated that application. That application was properly noticed. It was very contentious. But after a public hearing, council approved that application. Here is a snippet from that application. In the application, assurances made by the club that there would be no physical changes to the site other than minimal, inconsequential changes indicated on the pd site plan itself. Here is a snippet from the pd site plan regarding the southwest corner of the club's property. You can see identified there is a concrete practice court and there is a dividing backboard that you'll see here in a moment on the concrete practice court. Here is an aerial. On the left, you can see that concrete practice court. On the right, you can see the pickleball courts that the club has now installed. I'm going to explain how that happened. In 2022, the club submitted a permit application. The project description in that said that all the club was going to do was demo an old pickleball court and replace it with two new courts larger. There were no pickleball courts on the club site. There are two of them now. The reason that they are there is because this permit misrepresented that they were replacing pickleball courts with other pickleball courts and because of that misrepresentation, this application only went to the building department. It never went to zoning to determine compliance with the pd application. Now, these pickleball courts not only violate the site plan of The Pd This Council granted, it made my client's lives much, much worse. They tried to deal with this with the club to no avail. Likewise, my firm and I tried to deal with the club along with Ms. Batsel with no avail. We brought up issues of noise, light, legality of the pickleball courts. Development Services Department believes that pickleball is an appropriate use on the recreational facility private. We adamantly disagree with that. But the real issue for here today is that what the city has never addressed for us is that the club misrepresented the existence of pickleball courts to get the permit and it does not comply with the approved pd plan. Here is the attestation portion of a building permit application, and under that, an applicant, declares under penalty of perjury that all the information in the application is true, accurate, complete, including false or misleading information will render the permit application null and void. Per the city charter, we ask this council investigate this issue through city staff and through its legal department. We believe the permit should be revoked. If not, we want an explanation for why not.
Alan Clendenin
10:40:18AM
Thank you. Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
10:40:19AM
Is there a way you can provide your paper work to Mr. Shelby for the clerk? I believe in over-inclusion in situation like this. Happy to answer any other questions.
Alan Clendenin
10:40:37AM
Not during public comment.
Martin Shelby
10:40:39AM
City Council attorney. The question I asked council, are these seven copies for the council members, or six copies, I'm told this is the entire file.
Martin Shelby
10:41:02AM
That is a lot for the clerk. Would you like it electronically?
Alan Clendenin
10:41:11AM
That would be great for all of us as well.
Lynn Hurtak
10:41:16AM
The tree is already done.
Alan Clendenin
10:41:20AM
That's not copies for everybody.
Martin Shelby
10:41:24AM
Clerk, I want to apologize, to receive and file.
Alan Clendenin
10:41:36AM
Highly unusual. Thank you, Mr. page.
Martin Shelby
10:41:41AM
If you could also provide the clerk the electronic file, that will be fine. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:41:45AM
Elise, remember, this is public comment. Good morning. For the record, elise batsel, stearns weaver miller. I also represent the group of owners that Mr. Page does. I was brought in as a land use attorney to answer really two questions for these clients. Number one, what process should the club have followed in adding new pickleball courts? Number two, what did the club's misrepresentation allow them to avoid? I would like to talk about that just briefly. Your land development code mandates that any changes to an approved pd site plan go through the substantial change determination process, no exceptions. There are no exceptions in your code today regardless of 69. that includes changes from a back board to two active pickleball courts. Includes changes in setbacks, court dimensions, in buffering and changes to im-- pervious surface area. If the club had followed the proper procedure, here's what would have happened. It would have gone to the zoning administrator and drc. They would have looked at it and notice would have had to have been sent by the applicant to property owners. And they would have to be informed that they would have a right to appeal that decision. That didn't happen. If the club had followed the rules, it would either be approved as non-substantial change and as owners could repeal and come to this body. Or it would have determined to be a substantial change which would have brought it back to this body. In either of those cases, our clients would have had the right to be heard and the club would have had to go through the appropriate process. I don't have enough time to go through all of the merits, but we do believe that the subchange criteria would have been triggered and this would have come back to city council. But our clients were deprived of their voices to be heard. In addition to the pd site plan, there are a couple of regulations that should have been reviewed. Obviously we're all familiar with the subchange criteria. There are specific criteria that talk about method of buffering, et cetera. But in the pd application, specifically for the club, special use criteria that were not waived. Those criteria that apply to these pickleball courts would have included lighting, the effect on the neighbors. Again, none of that happened. So what did the club's misrepresentation allow them to do? Avoid the substantial change determination process. Avoid the proper notice to these neighbors, avoid any potential appeals, and avoid having this matter ever come to this council. So on behalf of our clients, we're asking you as the body to first approved this to use your investigative and reporting authority to figure out how this happened and to require, have someone require that the yacht club submit this through a substantial change determination as required by your code today. Thank you so much for your time.
Alan Clendenin
10:44:43AM
Thank you, elise. Ashley morrow followed by Stephen Michelini. I'm Ashley morrow. I will be sharing tampa's black history. Regardless of how much we wish to dissociate ourselves from tampa of the 1850s or to disclaim that society provided the foundation for modern tampa. Only by understanding the reality of black-white relations under slavery can we hope to comprehend the legacy. That was written by R. Wade Wetherington. He created a lot of the slave articles in the Florida peninsula. I want to talk about how the foundation and reality of black and white relations have kind of carried forward into today. Slave trade. This was an article in the Florida peninsula. I thought it was interesting that they were talking about it here. It says a letter from Havana says The African Slave Trade is flourishingly amazingly. A cargo of 800 bonzalez landed in gonzia, two other but smaller cargoes near Cardenas and a fourth cargo from a full rigged ship near bahia Honda. They are talking about this here because obviously slavery is going on here and some theories that the slave trade happened directly between tampa and Cuba. Now, when you go to museums, we're not on the map, it doesn't talk about that because they didn't write about it. You're not going to see a lot of talk about slave trades in larger arenas coming through and from tampa. Here is another article about slavery. With cargo coming to Smyrna, directly from Africa. I'll bring this up later, notice, there is a school up here in the corner. That will come -- that will be more important later, but can't talk about it right now. A lot of money was made by this city through slavery, whether they were selling black people or they were purchasing them and creating money off of their backs by generating wealth through plantations. And just hiring them out for work. So here is an example of a black woman being hired out. She wasn't paid for her work. Person owned her was being paid. Runaway slaves here in tampa. Some articles here. Can look back at those later. There was a jail here in tampa. More articles, but these are the ones I want to focus on. Can look back at those later. Here are some crimes. I'll stop and come back to this next week. I wanted to highlight that last month Hbcu Week. That is something Councilwoman Gwen Henderson really loved. I don't know what was done this year, but I know coming up we should definitely keep pushing Hbcu Week here in tampa.
Alan Clendenin
10:48:16AM
Thank you, Ashley. Stephen Michelini followed by Robin Lockett. I'm speaking about item 45 and the cleaning of the culverts that are dumping into Bayshore Blvd. Blvd.. I just want to stress how important the maintenance is. While that maintenance is occurring, and I've spoken to staff about this as well, they should be considering the backflow preventers that prevent the storm surge from going back up into those culverts, that force the flooding back up into the neighborhoods and the businesses. It's important to not just to clean, but to also repair them. I understand a number of culverts have been damaged or collapsed, some because of storm and some because of age. It's extremely important that we place enough budget money for not just cleaning but repairing of those outlets. The focus has always been, at least recently, on establishing and constructing new facilities instead of focusing on the maintenance. When we're talking about a seven-year program or 14-year program for maintenance, and when it should be an annual program. I understand that last year for the cleaning of these culverts and the outfalls was delayed because of the hurricanes, I understand that. But it's time to accelerate that program, put the money in there and clean them out to help avoid any continuing flooding into these various areas. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:49:57AM
Thank you. Robin Lockett, followed by our last speaker, Surgret Doss. As everyone knows -- Robin Lockett. As everyone knows, resolution 568 has been dissolved or has stopped. Disappointed about that. I'm disappointed that from the inception, we had issues with the facilitators. It took us probably three meetings before we started getting a groove with the work. I'm proud of the work that we've done, but there are other things that can be done. I want to see a final report from the facilitators. Since we did not have a final meeting with the committee, I want council, want to know if we submit any amendments to that report, will council accept it? I think that, again this date and time, just like housing, we have to be creative in regards to how we build housing. I think everything also falls into that realm, that we have to find a way to still get the work done and produce a product. I'm looking forward to conversations after this is over where the community comes together and whoever wants to join so that we can really put teeth in the ask. That's with policy with the city of tampa. That's with everything. The second thing I want to discuss is item number 73. urban works -- urban Reworx. The apartments. I know council fought very hard to provide money for this project because they wanted -- they thought it was a flagship project. I think so also. If it is -- if it keeps the 30% ami. If it keeps the 50% ami, if the developer comes and says that he can only do 80%, I want you all to kill that deal. I cannot support it. Name change, again, there were promises that were made to council. Council went over and above to try to make this work because of the opportunity that it brought. But if that deal does not work with the ami that he agreed to, kill the deal. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:52:35AM
Thank you very much. Our last speaker, Surgret Doss. Surgret Doss. It's interesting when I see attorneys pop up, it makes me chuckle. Until then, I didn't know you had an investigative and reporting authority because I sent information to you all a few weeks ago not related to my individual action in which the city is a named defendant or the city's police department. I have to calibrate again because somebody is very near and dear to me so I have to be on my best behavior. Speak directly to Kevin Steele. Although his proposal isn't directed to tampa, we have a great institution of higher learning. Have a couple here. The greatest being the university of Thomas Jefferson High School. South Florida also attending. This notion that we'll start renaming streets, particularly when we have hbcus that the majority of the student body is actually women. We're going to name it after somebody who had nothing but disparaging things to say about black women. I'm the father of daughters for one. One is actually a doctor who went to Florida a and m university and is actually now a pharmacist because she passed her boards, which is something that somebody who they want to rename the streets after probably would be in disagreement with. Not say about him what I was planning on saying because of a present party. But beyond that, it's amazing that they say the wheat grows with the tears. When I think about people non-melanated, you white people, there are sections of you all who have the authority and ability to call out behavior that we know should otherwise be unacceptable. Same thing to people melanated that call out behavior in our community that should be rendered unacceptable. I want to make sure the brush is painted evenly. Thank you to whoever the gentleman was who had the audacity to say to governor Ron Desantis in the middle of his accepting $600 million for this prison down there when he speaks nothing at all about some of the injustices that are done to veterans, and I don't know how much money he has or has not taken. I know there's $10 million we haven't discussed yet that seems to have disappeared into his wife's pocket. That being said, because my aunt is here, and I have to behave, I'll close by shouting out the greatest institution of higher learning in the city, The University of Thomas Jefferson High School. The most known Dr. Pacheco and many others.
Alan Clendenin
10:55:29AM
Can we ask if your aunt can come every week? [ laughter ]
Alan Clendenin
10:55:37AM
Did you fill out a speaker card? I signed up outside of the metal detector, but I think I signed the wrong form.
Alan Clendenin
10:55:48AM
Go ahead. Start with your name and you have three minutes. A resident of tampa in the new suburb beautiful neighborhood. I grew up in tampa. I'm a very proud tampa resident now. I left the day after high school and said I was never coming back. 21 years later a job pulled me back with strategic property partners or water street tampa. In that job, I had a really important role of helping create infrastructure that would then help improve the city of tampa. I'm here to speak on behalf of the wheel over water project. When I got here in 2016, I found myself embarrassed that folks coming off of cruise ships were wandering around looking for something to do. Our restaurant services were not great. There was not a lot of entertainment. Since then, the investment has been outstanding. The support from the city, the county, the state has been outstanding. We've also had a lot of private investment that has helped out. The wheel over water is another opportunity for us to accept private investment without tax dollars to create an icon, to create something to do, to give people a reason to come back, to share a photo that says tampa is worth visiting. That's it. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
10:57:09AM
Thank you very much. That concludes public comment. Down stairs on the second floor, we have a group of aviators from Kenneth E. Adum K-8 Magnet School third grade classes. Hi, everybody. I know you are listening down there. They are represented by I believe we have principal Scott Weaver in the room and assistant principal. I'm representing all of the third grade teachers also here with their students.
Alan Clendenin
10:57:44AM
Can you hear us down there? Scream so we can hear you? [ laughter ] [ applause ] this is a great experience for our students. Part of our curriculum is learning about how local government works. Government is such an intangible, abstract concept for children. This allows them to see how the city networks interact to provide great services for their families. We're so excited to be here. Thank you for allowing us to visit the different services that the city of tampa provides.
Alan Clendenin
10:58:19AM
Thank you. Educator up here on the dais. Councilwoman Hurtak. I am a former third grade teacher. First through fourth. It is a special gift. I just want to say thank you so much for what you do. I'm so glad that you all are here today to learn about what the city does. If I have a minute, if you are down there for a little while, I may try to pop by and say hi.
Lynn Hurtak
10:58:46AM
Congratulations. Thank you all for being here. We really love seeing young people here.
Alan Clendenin
10:58:50AM
Hey, aviators, I don't think I heard you last time. I think you need to be louder this time. Aviators, give me a scream. I didn't hear you last time. [distant screaming]
Alan Clendenin
10:59:06AM
That was much better.
Lynn Hurtak
10:59:11AM
You riled them up.
Alan Clendenin
10:59:12AM
That's what I do to my grandchild. Give candy and give back to the parents.
Luis Viera
10:59:22AM
May I have a point of whatever you want to call it.
Alan Clendenin
10:59:26AM
Go ahead.
Luis Viera
10:59:26AM
I wanted to speak on the racial reconciliation. Not in terms of motions or anything. Just my thoughts. We had a lot of people come and speak from the heart on this. I've spoken to most of them privately and everything like that. I think it's important that in today's vote it is not the end of something. Not the period at the end of the sentence. Something procedurally and legally. It allows members of the board to be able to speak to one another on what the next step is without violating sunshine. That is a very, very important thing. We're going to be voting on something. I had somebody tell me, vote no on it. I'm not going to do that. You know why? I'm not going to play the holier-than-thou card with my colleagues and make everybody look bad because I want to do something on principle. People know my heart. People know everybody's heart on the issue. It's something unfortunately our hands are tied on. We have opinions from our city legal, from Mr. Shelby as well, city council attorney on that, that we stand behind with sorrow and with a lot of regret and everything like that. It's not something I maintain. It should be a contested point. I state with reasonableness that this committee was not radical. It is nothing that the federal government should give a damn about. If anything, something the federal government should be encouraging and supporting. All it did was say, hey, look, let's take a look at our history of racism, let's take a look at our history of oppression. 90 years from the start of the country of slavery. 60 years after that, 70 years after that of Jim Crow, before 10 years of reconstruction, talking about that. Talking about the effect on us today. Ongoing injustice, discrimination, and racism is not radical. It is the american thing to do. It is the decent thing to do. You talk about our history and things that people have no idea about. Things that literally happened downtown. Racial lynchings that happened downtown. Just 80, 90 years ago, that nobody knows anything about. Ask your average person what general sherman field order 15 was. Most people don't know what that is. People need to know their history. We live in very, very shameful times when up is down and down is up and a lot of disappointment out there with me, with the way things are. I have never seen from the federal level, doing this because of a federal mandate, such efforts to pour gasoline on fire, to stroke division with punitive effects on local he was to talk about building bridges, to talk about repairing a breach like the book of isaiah says, that to me is the american thing to do. We can continue with efforts that build on social justice. Some people in public comment have talked about that. I fully, strongly support that, including other boards and committees that talk about inclusion, that talk about poverty in our city, that talk about things like that. We can do that and we should and I believe that we will do that. Again, I wanted to express my values. Frankly, my sorrow and my anger and my frustration. I read the tampa bay times every morning. It's not easy because of what's happening nationally in our country. This is a microcosm of that. Mr. Chairman, thank you for that. I wanted to share my heart.
Alan Clendenin
11:02:59AM
Thank you, Councilman Viera. Well said. I think you spoke on behalf of all of us. Councilman Carlson.
Bill Carlson
11:03:04AM
I want to say the same thing. I had a lot of people reach out to me about this. I think it's important to make a couple of statements. Councilman Viera talked about the distant past with racism. There is a lot of racist and oppressive policies created in the last administration. This council has a great record of trying to end civil rights abuses. Ended two or three policies investigated by The National U.s. Justice Department that were considered racist and oppressive. It's important that everybody in our community feels like they have a chance to participate and that we as a city not discriminate or support discrimination like has happened in the last ten years. I would stand on the record of the city council, ideas to push forward. Unfortunately we are a sub of the state and subject to whatever the federal government says. You have seen that the federal government has sent I think 400 pages or so of kind of threats of what we can and can't do. Other cities tried to push back and the federal government has stepped in and shut them down. Today, if we don't do anything, if we don't vote on this or vote present, here's what happens. Number one, the committee will be in limbo because the city cannot move forward providing any resource to help the committee. In the absence of that, the committee can't meet because it is subject to sunshine. Committee members can't even talk to each other. I've spoken to about half the committee members about this already about what could happen in the future. Other alternative is the city supports it and city provides staffing, then the federal government will come in and shut it down and won't be able to do anything going forward. The better option what we're in effect doing today, we're releasing the committee from sunshine, by not making it a city committee, we're releasing it from sunshine. The committee, as it is, with the chair who I nominated and the others that we nominated, the committee can continue to meet on their own. Can't even talk to each other right now unless we do this. This afternoon, they can call each other because they will be lifted from sunshine and continue to meet on their own. We individually, I don't think we can go together, we can individually consult with them or meet with them. If we have an official committee come back with recommendations, the federal government will try to shut us down on that. If the committee not as city committee wants to come back and give us recommendations, they are entitled to do that just like any community organization. Enable the committee to go forward rather than leaving it in limbo or trying to challenge the federal government and ending up with a big fight. Enable the committee to go forward starting right away. They can self-organize. We can individually support it and hopefully get recommendations. The federal government may stop us on some of the recommendations but at least we have the recommendations. Government goes in cycles, and we can look at those, the ones we can implement, we will. The ones we can't, we can hold and implement later.
Alan Clendenin
11:06:14AM
Thank you, Councilman Carlson. We'll move on to board appointments. Like to hear a motion for number three, resolution approving the reappointment of mayor -- of Valerie S. Churchman to the human rights board of the city of tampa. We have a motion from Councilman Viera. A second from Councilman Miranda.
Lynn Hurtak
11:06:31AM
I just want to let council know I have a meeting next week to find a way to make sure that since these are reappointments, that the original applications are available so that we can --
Alan Clendenin
11:06:45AM
I believe they did.
Lynn Hurtak
11:06:46AM
They did because I asked. But we're looking for a way to make sure it's continuous and a couple of other things. I will report back to you all with that. I'll make sure we get these in the future.
Alan Clendenin
11:06:59AM
Out of courtesy is Valerie or Jamie Jenkins in the room? Give them an opportunity to speak. They aren't. All in favor? Aye. Ayes have it unanimously. Motion for file ba 25-17439, a resolution approving the reappointment by the mayor of Jamie Jenkins to the human rights board. All in favor, aye. Thank you very much. We'll move on to the agenda, public safety, Councilman Viera, move items 5-7, please.
Luis Viera
11:07:31AM
So move.
Lynn Hurtak
11:07:33AM
I'd like a separate vote for number 5.
Luis Viera
11:07:38AM
I move items 6 through 7.
Alan Clendenin
11:07:40AM
Motion by Councilman Viera moving items 6 and 7. second from Maniscalco. All in favor, aye? Ayes have it.
Luis Viera
11:07:48AM
I move item 5.
Alan Clendenin
11:07:52AM
Motion from Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. Can we have a roll call vote, please?
Bill Carlson
11:08:00AM
Yes.
Charlie Miranda
11:08:00AM
Yes.
Guido Maniscalco
11:08:01AM
Yes.
Lynn Hurtak
11:08:03AM
No.
Luis Viera
11:08:04AM
Yes.
Alan Clendenin
11:08:06AM
Yes.
The Clerk
11:08:08AM
Motion carried with hurtak voting no.
Alan Clendenin
11:08:10AM
Thank you very much. Just for that vote, I had a very good briefing with the police chief yesterday and expressed my concerns. He was able to explain enough about item 5 to me to get the three-year extension of the contract. Neighborhood and community affairs committee, 8 through 14. Councilwoman Hurtak, please.
Lynn Hurtak
11:08:32AM
I move items 8 through 14.
Alan Clendenin
11:08:35AM
Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor, aye. Ayes have it unanimously. Thank you. Infrastructure committee, items 15 through 22.
Bill Carlson
11:08:48AM
I need to recuse myself for item 22. I'll be putting in a form later. But my company does business with the related organization. I think it is the best interest for me to recuse myself.
Lynn Hurtak
11:09:03AM
Also a member of the public, Ms. Poynor Brought up something about 18, the water works park site and contaminated soil. Apparently, we hired someone to do installing the monitoring wells prior and they didn't do the work. Now we're hiring a different person. It's not that we're trying to necessarily build anything, but they are -- it is a contaminated soil location.
Alan Clendenin
11:09:28AM
Thank you. Councilman Maniscalco, 15 through 21.
Guido Maniscalco
11:09:31AM
I move 15 through 21.
Alan Clendenin
11:09:34AM
Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All in favor, aye. Ayes have it unanimously.
Martin Shelby
11:09:40AM
May we have that announced, please?
Alan Clendenin
11:09:43AM
I said unanimously.
Martin Shelby
11:09:48AM
I believe there was an abstention. Oh, you didn't do his. I apologize.
Guido Maniscalco
11:09:53AM
Like to move item 22 on a separate vote.
Alan Clendenin
11:09:56AM
Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Viera. Can we have a roll call vote, please?
Charlie Miranda
11:10:03AM
Yes.
Guido Maniscalco
11:10:04AM
Yes.
Lynn Hurtak
11:10:05AM
Yes.
Luis Viera
11:10:06AM
Yes.
Alan Clendenin
11:10:07AM
Yes.
The Clerk
11:10:10AM
The motion carried with Carlson abstaining.
Martin Shelby
11:10:17AM
City Council attorney. I want to share with you that I am going to work very hard to try to not do that again. [ laughter ]
Alan Clendenin
11:10:26AM
No, he's not. You just abolished 30 days of employee performance improvement. Finance committee, items 24 through 33.
Charlie Miranda
11:10:39AM
Move 24 through 33.
Alan Clendenin
11:10:42AM
Motion from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously. Thank you. Development and economic -- 23 is -- development and economic development committee, 34-44, Councilman Carlson.
Bill Carlson
11:11:07AM
[inaudible]
Alan Clendenin
11:11:08AM
Motion from Councilman Carlson. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Mobility and asset management committee, items 45 through 47. Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
11:11:18AM
I move items 45 through 47.
Alan Clendenin
11:11:21AM
Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. We have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco to set the public hearings. Second from Councilman Miranda. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.
Guido Maniscalco
11:11:38AM
[inaudible]
Alan Clendenin
11:11:39AM
We have a motion to open the 10 and 10:30 public hearings. From Councilman Maniscalco. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously. I believe I skipped the announcement for the public. Like to hear any reconsideration of legislative matters. Hearing none, that is closed.
Lynn Hurtak
11:12:02AM
I would like to move items 63 and 64 since we did not ask for any staff to be here.
Alan Clendenin
11:12:10AM
Motion to move 63 and 64 from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously. I saw the planning commission is here. We set it at 11:45. Without objection, can we hear from them now? Do the second readings first. I was trying to be kind to the planning commission. They get beat up quite hard. Number 50, file Vac-25-18.
Luis Viera
11:13:04AM
For many of these, I was absent at vote. Obviously, I reviewed the documents and so forth and ready to vote.
Alan Clendenin
11:13:12AM
I'm assuming the same for Councilman Maniscalco and Councilwoman Hurtak. Is there staff for item 50?
Ross Samons
11:13:21AM
Ross Samons, 25-18 for second reading and adoption. Available if you have questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:13:28AM
Any questions for staff? Anybody in the public who wishes to speak to this item?
Steve Michelini
11:13:35AM
I'm here on behalf of the Accardi family. We certainly appreciate the city's cooperation regarding the vacating of this which enables the swap that benefits the jackson house. I would be happy to answer any questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:13:50AM
Just for clarification, you are the petitioner, not public comment.
Steve Michelini
11:13:54AM
No, the city is the petitioner.
Alan Clendenin
11:14:04AM
Anybody else? Motion to close? Start with your name. This gets the Jackson House moving, gets the accardi family feeling it. F.d.o.t. Start moving to get the thing moving here so we can get The Jackson House and get that area moving forward because there is a lot happening by the train station. Let's get the thing over with.
Alan Clendenin
11:14:48AM
Dr. Colins, you wish to speak as well? Directors to the council. Thank you. And we are in support of 50 in order to do exactly what you just said, move the Jackson House forward with the vacation of the alley being equally split between all concerns as per the law.
Alan Clendenin
11:15:18AM
Motion to close, please? Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.
Bill Carlson
11:15:34AM
End of a long chapter and hopefully the beginning of The Jackson House. Move file 50. Vac-25-18, an ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida, vacating, closing, discontinuing, and abandoning that alleyway located north of Twiggs Street, south of Zack Street, east of Jefferson Street, and west of Nebraska avenue, within the plat of binkley's addition to Fort Brooke, a subdivision in the city of tampa, Hillsborough County, Florida, as more fully described in Section 2 hereof subject to certain covenants, conditions and restrictions as more particularly set forth herein, providing for enforcement and penalties for violations, providing for definitions, interpretations and repealing conflicts, providing for severability, providing an effective date.
Alan Clendenin
11:16:16AM
We have a motion from Councilman Carlson. Second from Councilman Viera. Please record your vote.
The Clerk
11:16:29AM
Motion carried unanimously.
Bill Carlson
11:16:35AM
Dr. Colins mentioned in public comment about the jackson house asking to make sure that they get their property book behind. As I recalled in the last hearing, city staff said they needed to do that. If any city staff are watching, please reach out to Dr. Colins If she does need to do anything. I was just speaking to Dr. Collins. I'll speak to her outside and explain to her what the process is.
Alan Clendenin
11:17:03AM
Item 51. Agenda item 51 is the second reading for an honorary street naming in honor of J. Leonard Levy and George Levy. It is the placement of an honorary street naming sign at the intersection of North Himes Avenue and West Ohio avenue in tampa.
Alan Clendenin
11:17:29AM
Thank you. Does council have any questions?
Guido Maniscalco
11:17:33AM
I'm just really excited that we are doing there. The levy brothers are legendary. I met Leonard Levy where Mr. Michelini is sitting. I never got the chance to meet George Levy, but I did meet his wife. His reputation speaks for himself. Growing up, there were certain people, about a dozen and the levy brothers were always mentioned. They are a big deal because people still talk about them and they'll continue to talk about them. What I like what -- that is such a busy area. People will drive by, just like Tom Mcewen tampa bay, legendary with The Tampa Tribune, they are going to read the levy brothers' names. If they don't know who they are, I hope they google them to realize and understand their impact on the community because it will be felt for a long, long time. I'm glad to support this.
Alan Clendenin
11:18:21AM
Reminder to the public, if you already spoke, you only have one opportunity to speak. Anybody that has not spoke that wishes to speak to this item? Hearing none, can I get a motion to close? Motion to close from Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Do we have this electronically? 51 for Councilman Viera.
Luis Viera
11:18:45AM
My pleasure. An ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance of the city of Tampa, Florida, approving the placement of an honorary street naming sign at the intersection of North Himes Avenue and West Ohio avenue in Tampa, Florida, to honor J. Leonard Levy and George Levy; providing an effective date.
Alan Clendenin
11:19:05AM
We have a motion from Councilman Viera. A second from Councilman Maniscalco. Please record your vote.
The Clerk
11:19:16AM
Motion carried unanimously.
Alan Clendenin
11:19:18AM
For the public hearings, the rest of the public hearings, they require witnesses to be sworn in. If you plan on providing testimony in these public hearings, please stand, raise your right hand and be sworn in by our clerk. [oath administered]
Alan Clendenin
11:19:38AM
Thank you. Item number 52. for the record, Christopher Demanche with development coordination. Rez-25-10. This item is a rezoning request for property located at 4202 north seminole avenue. The request is to rezone from sh-rs seminole heights, residential, single-family, to sh-pd planned development for residential single-family, detached. Revisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerk's office. I'm available for any questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:20:11AM
Does council have any questions? Is there an applicant? Anybody in the public that wishes to speak to item 52? motion to close from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. Councilwoman Hurtak. All those in favor of closing, say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously.
Lynn Hurtak
11:20:33AM
Rez-25-10, ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 4202 north seminole avenue, in the city of Tampa, Florida, and more particularly described in Section 1 from zoning district classifications sh-rs seminole heights, residential, single-family, to sh-pd, seminole heights, planned development, residential, single-family, detached, providing an effective date.
Alan Clendenin
11:21:00AM
We have a motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. A second from Councilman Maniscalco. Please record your vote.
The Clerk
11:21:14AM
Motion carried with Carlson being absent at vote.
Alan Clendenin
11:21:17AM
Item 53. staff.
Christopher Demanche
11:21:20AM
Christopher Demanche, development coordination. Item 53 is rez-25-57, this item is a rezoning request for property located at 5101 north 34th street and 3404 east wilder avenue. The request is to rezone from residential single-family rs-50 to commercial neighborhood cn. This is a euclidean rezoning, no site plan associated with the request. This is again before you for second reading. I'm available for questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:21:47AM
I have a question. All the stuff behind you, is that to make you look like a really busy man? [ laughter ] does council have any questions? Hearing none, is there an applicant? Seeing none, anybody in the public that wishes to speak to this item? Motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously. Thank you. Councilman Maniscalco.
Guido Maniscalco
11:22:11AM
Thank you. Ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 5101 north 34th street and 3404 east wilder avenue, in the city of Tampa, Florida, and more particularly described in Section 1 from zoning district classification rs-50, residential, single-family, to cn, commercial neighborhood.
Alan Clendenin
11:22:30AM
Second from Miranda. Please record your vote.
The Clerk
11:22:36AM
Motion carried unanimously.
Alan Clendenin
11:22:38AM
Thank you. Item 54.
Christopher Demanche
11:22:41AM
Development coordination. Item 54 is rez 25-59. Rezoning request for property located at 6600, 6602, 6604, 660 of, 6610, 6612, 6614, 6616 and 6618 south sterling avenue and 6713, 6715, and 6717 South Himes Avenue. The request is to rezone from planned development to planned development for residential single-family detached uses. Revisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerk's office. This is before you for second reading today. I'm available for any questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:23:24AM
Council have any questions? Applicant? Here to answer questions if you have any.
Alan Clendenin
11:23:35AM
Any questions? Anybody in the public who wishes to speak to item 54? Ms. Poynor. You might remember this. Why these guys had to do an entirely new rezoning was waste of funds and waste of city staff's time and energy when they approved, could have approved it with a snow job, sno, administrative sign-off, but they made them do a whole new rezoning to go back to what the city standards are every single day of the week. Shame, shame, shame. Shame. I support this project. I supported it when it came forward earlier. For the initial rezoning, and these guys do a really good job of supporting sog. I don't love any new development, but they have come in under what they could have been building. I wanted to remind you that you have had your time wasted today. Should have been an administrative sign-off, do it for 60-foot live local setback. Thank you. Have a good day.
Alan Clendenin
11:24:41AM
Mark this on the calendar, the day that Stephanie Poynor wanted to get administrative sign-offs and not things before council. [ laughter ] anybody else in the public who wishes to speak to the item? Motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilman Miranda.
Charlie Miranda
11:24:59AM
File rez 25-59, ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption. An ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 6600, 6602, 6604, 6606, 6610, 6612, 6614, 6616 and 6618 south sterling avenue and 6713, 6715, 6717 South Himes Avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida, more particularly described in Section 1 from zoning district classification, pd planned development to pd planned development, residential, single-family, detached.
Alan Clendenin
11:25:33AM
Thank you. Motion from --
Charlie Miranda
11:25:36AM
Providing an effective date.
Alan Clendenin
11:25:37AM
Motion from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. Sounded like I was at an auction for a minute. Please record your vote.
The Clerk
11:25:51AM
Motion carried unanimously.
Alan Clendenin
11:25:53AM
Item 55.
Christopher Demanche
11:25:56AM
For the record, Christopher Demanche, development coordination. Item 55 is rez 25-70. This item is a rezoning request for the property located at 703 East Floribraska avenue. Request to rezone from residential multifamily rm 24 to commercial neighborhood cn. Euclidean rezoning. No site plan associated with the request. This is also before you today for second reading. I'm available for any questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:26:22AM
Any questions? I see the applicant. This euclidean.
Alan Clendenin
11:26:32AM
Council have any questions for the applicant? Anybody in the public who wishes to speak to the item? Motion to close from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilman Carlson, like to read item 55.
Bill Carlson
11:26:48AM
Yes, I have to say I still get flash backs when I hear her voice from the covid days, those of you who were here because she was with the city. I would like to move item 55, file rez-25-70, ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 703 East Floribraska avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida, more particularly described in Section 1 from zoning district classification, rm 24, residential, multifamily, to cn, commercial neighborhood, providing an effective date.
Alan Clendenin
11:27:22AM
We have a motion from Councilman Carlson. Second from Councilman Miranda. Please record your vote.
The Clerk
11:27:30AM
Motion carried unanimously.
Alan Clendenin
11:27:33AM
We're zipping along here. Item 56.
Christopher Demanche
11:27:37AM
For the record, Christopher, development coordination. Item 56 is rez-25-74. This item is a rezoning request for the property located at 1318 West Arch Street. The request is to rezone from residential, single-family, rs-50 to planned development for residential, single-family, semi-detached uses. Revisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerk's office. This is before you for second reading. I'm available for any questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:28:08AM
Any questions? Hearing none, is there an applicant? Anybody in the public wish to speak to 56? motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Viera. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilman Viera and then you'll have a resolution bonus provision as well.
Luis Viera
11:28:23AM
Move an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 1318 West Arch Street, city of Tampa, Florida, more particularly described in Section 1 from zoning district classification rs 50 residential, single-family, to pd planned development, residential, single-family, semi detached, providing an effective date.
Alan Clendenin
11:28:42AM
Motion from Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor -- please record your vote. Can you record it again?
The Clerk
11:29:13AM
Motion carried unanimously.
Alan Clendenin
11:29:14AM
Very good. Thank you so much.
Luis Viera
11:29:17AM
Move the resolution, if I may.
Alan Clendenin
11:29:18AM
Motion from Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously. Thank you so much. Item 57.
Christopher Demanche
11:29:27AM
Christopher Demanche, development coordination. Item 57, rez-25-78. This item is a rezoning request for property located at 801 east 26th avenue. Request is to rezone from planned development to commercial general. This is euclidean rezoning, so no site plan associated with the request. This is before you for second reading. I'm available for any questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:29:51AM
Thank you. Council have any questions? Applicant. Mark Bentley, 400 North Ashley drive, representing the applicant. I'm here to answer any questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:30:02AM
Any questions? Hearing none, anybody in the public who wishes to speak to item 57? motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Second from Viera. All in favor, aye. Ayes have it.
Lynn Hurtak
11:30:13AM
File rez 25-78, ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 801 east 26st avenue in the city of Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in Section 1 from zoning district classification pd, planned development, to cg, commercial general, providing an effective date.
Alan Clendenin
11:30:35AM
Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak, second from Councilman Maniscalco. Please record your vote.
Guido Maniscalco
11:30:52AM
I'm wearing my John Lennon pin for his birthday. Today is his birthday.
Alan Clendenin
11:31:02AM
Council, do you want to do the planning commission now or the wheel?
Lynn Hurtak
11:31:15AM
The planning commission is going to be fast.
Alan Clendenin
11:31:17AM
Are you going to be fast? Let's go.
Lynn Hurtak
11:31:21AM
I just met with them earlier this week, might have been yesterday, might have been tuesday, who knows. The days all run together. They are here with an update. I believe they have some maps for us.
Alan Clendenin
11:31:40AM
This is item 65 for those of you following along at home. Melissa Zornitta, executive director of the Hillsborough County city-county planning commission. Thank you for the opportunity to provide you an update on the work we're doing in response to the continuation of the future land use section update from your hearing, august 28. we've been doing some work responsive to the numerous motions that were made by city council. Many of those motions were very straightforward. You asked us to remove a policy or bring certain policies back into the comprehensive plan. One example of some of those actions that we're taking forward is the update of the rather controversial --
Lynn Hurtak
11:32:30AM
There is a wheel up at the top.
Alan Clendenin
11:32:33AM
Very, very top. The transit ready corridors map, we've zoomed in here on the area from Kennedy Boulevard North because now based on council's action, there are not any transit ready corridors south of Kennedy Boulevard. You can see in the light purple the areas that were originally in our proposal that came to you all on august 28 considered for transit ready corridors and the magenta areas are the areas that based on Councilman Clendenin's motion that passed that are being retained as transit ready corridors. So this is just one example of some of the different actions based on the motions that we are taking and moving forward. Some of the other motions, asked to revisit different policies. We're working through the analysis of those policies and how best to address them. The other topic that we're working through addressing is Senate bill 180. you had a workshop on that with the city legal a couple of weeks ago. We've been learning from various jurisdictions around the state that have been dealing with the same issue, sending their work forward to The Department of Commerce and having it met with reactions from their review. The interesting take on this from comprehensive plan amendments is that when an amendment is sent up to The Department of Commerce, they will reject an amendment at the transmittal stage if they find one part of the amendment to be more restrictive or burdensome. That is a bit of a difference from some of the land development code aspects is that they are not looking at this surgically. They are looking at the amendment as a whole. So if one part of our 45-page update of the future land use section, the department finds as more restrictive or burdensome, they will reject the entire thing as null and void and we will have to start the plan amendment process over in its entirety. So that's causing us to go essentially line by line through what we had proposed and we review everything. So that's taking us some time. In terms of a timeline, which was part of your motion for us to bring back, we're going to be spending the better part of the rest of this year working on this review and looking at the draft and making sure we have language that is legally defensible to bring back to you all. We anticipate having a new draft to present to the public in mid january to give everybody a month to review that in advance of that scheduled transmittal hearing on february 17. we do plan to have some outreach meetings in late january to explain that draft to the public. Those would be an in-person and a virtual meeting to be able to answer questions and explain everything. That's all I had. Happy to answer any questions.
Alan Clendenin
11:36:17AM
Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
11:36:18AM
Thank you. So this also -- we may end up having to do a similar to what we did at our workshop where we may have some items we want to pass but have to put into a hold folder. My understanding, you will be bringing back the draft that will pass and then what we'll have to put in hold folder, correct? We have to -- I mean, certainly one aspect that is evolving is what happens in this legislative session. There are a number of legal challenges to Senate bill 180 also ongoing. So the situation as it relates to that is kind of evolving daily. And we're working very closely with your -- the city attorney's office on that issue. So we'll bring back to you in february what we think can move forward at that time. Yes, I would anticipate that there are some changes that may not be able to move forward at that time that we would have set aside to move forward as soon as they are able to be.
Lynn Hurtak
11:37:32AM
What I would recommend when you come to us, have two different documents. Things we want to pass but we aren't going to be able to right now just so the public understands those things are still on the table. The reason I asked them to bring the transit ready corridor bonus map back, I don't know about you, but I heard from neighborhoods, specifically on the east side that said, hey, we actually want that added back. So what I'm doing, because we're not allowed to make the motion now, is I am offering to work with planning commission staff and city staff to reach out to those neighborhoods and try to do some meetings to try to figure out where else people -- because people have spoken -- my office has gotten some feedback already. So I'm happy to spearhead that because we think really do that as a team. I'm happy to do that. Also, if we do public meetings, I'm happy to share that information with you all so that you all could attend as just folks to hear. It wouldn't be me necessarily speaking. I wanted to throw that out there because I have heard from several neighborhoods, especially in east tampa. Tampa heights has talked about areas that they want to be added back on. I just wanted to bring that up briefly to see how council felt about that.
Alan Clendenin
11:38:52AM
I wanted to reiterate, already had a conversation with planning commission about this, trying to move that along that evening, we threw out these streets, but there are definitely multiple omissions. Off the top of my head, obviously segments of Mlk, 22nd street, boyscout, Columbus, Cypress, 15th street. I think everyone has to kind of evaluate it because Columbus is not homogeneous. Segments of Columbus maybe not. I would appreciate the fact that you volunteer to look into that. Boyscout and cypress obviously.
Lynn Hurtak
11:39:28AM
Again, if folks have had neighborhoods that have come to them and said yes, I'm saying, send it to my office. Send it to Kelly if you have gotten feedback from neighborhoods or people so we can try to reach out.
Alan Clendenin
11:39:44AM
Councilman Maniscalco I saw first and then Councilman Carlson and then Councilman Miranda.
Guido Maniscalco
11:39:48AM
Which neighborhood. You said the east side but you mentioned several. I know from the neighborhoods that don't want it. We know the sections. If anything, we'll send information to your office. If the community meetings take place so we can attend, even if we are there to listen and stand back, at least we know. This is a complicated process.
Bill Carlson
11:40:19AM
I think that all is a good idea. I think the planning commission should run the public outreach in district five. Soon we'll have another representative in district five and maybe they can provide input as well or I'm sure they will provide it. Council member Henderson had given you some initial recommendations but then she passed away. That is -- because we didn't have a leader in district five, that is a good reason for the planning commission to go back in. I think we only had one or two meetings. Whereas in south tampa, we had a lot because we pushed for it. I would ask that you send this to all the neighborhood leaders at the very least so they can see what's happening and then we can hear feedback from them and go I have it back. Also on the map, you showed -- I would recommend that you have a version of it that shows south tampa with nothing on it because that will help. That will help at least when you send it to south tampa. Senate bill 180, I just want to mention that we knew from the beginning of this process and we told the public we can't take away existing entitlements. The purpose of this whole process is to give additional entitlements. There are some areas that don't want people to get additional entitlements. The purpose of this is not to take away entitlements, we can't do that. Once entitlements are given, the city or government can't take them away without compensation. The idea is to provide in some areas additional entitlements, but if those additional entitlements inadvertently cause a disadvantage to somebody who thinks they have an existing entitlement, then that could cause a problem with Senate bill 180. I want to say the intention of this is to provide additional entitlements, not less. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
11:42:07AM
Thank you. Councilwoman Hurtak, you want to speak again?
Lynn Hurtak
11:42:12AM
Yes, the only reason I'm offering to do it is because the planning commission is currently doing comprehensive plans for other cities. So they are having to do -- there's not enough of them. And they said they would be willing to come to meetings if we have meetings. But being able to send this to neighborhoods and things, I'm happy to cc them on but take the initiative to do.
Bill Carlson
11:42:38AM
The thing about that, and the only reason I would ask the planning commission to get involved is to the extent you have lists of people or capability to ask the public to participate, because sometimes the leadership of a neighborhood has a different opinion than the members of the public. Just so we try to use every tool we can to communicate with members of the public to get them out.
Alan Clendenin
11:42:59AM
Thank you. Anything else? Planning commission, do you have anything else for us?
Alan Clendenin
11:43:09AM
Hearing nothing else, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Just for planning purposes, we had a motion from Councilman Viera to hear about the new tampa recreation center after lunch at 1:30. So that would require us to be back at 1:30. I think we'll end up breaking for lunch after the next item. For staff, if you are here for anything other than item 58, we will not be hearing that until after lunch. Fyi. Item number 58. this is the first of two required public hearings on a proposed Chapter 163 development agreement between the city of tampa and tampa bay wheel, Llc. A copy of the proposed development agreement is on file with the city clerk. No vote will be required on the proposed development agreement until had the second public hearing, which is scheduled to occur on october 23rd at 10:30 a.m. sole purpose of the proposed development agreement is approve the height of a proposed observation wheel up to 250 feet subject to approval of the height by the aviation authority and faa. Small portion of a parking lot that currently serves the Florida aquarium within the channel district. The Channel District Regulations Require City Council's approval as well as the Hillsborough County Aviation Authority and the faa for the construction of any improvements that exceed 175 feet in height in the channel district. The development agreement requires that the project otherwise comply with all other applicable ordinances and governmental regulations including the channel district regulations contained in Chapter 27 of the city code, approval of the height increase to 250 feet is specific to this project only. It would not apply to any other project or improvements on this property. In connection with the proximate cause, representatives of the tampa bay wheel will first make a presentation regarding the proposed project and development agreement to the council. Since this is a public hearing, members of the public should be heard regarding the project and proposed development agreement. While no vote on the development agreement is required this morning, city council would like changes to the current draft that's on file, then at the conclusion of today's public hearing, it would be appropriate for council to ask for those changes or required revisions to the development agreement. I would also note this property is owned by the city and leased to the Florida aquarium, so there will be an amendment to the lease and consent to the sublease that will also be required that will occur on october 23rd contemporaneous with your final public hearing and your review of the proposed development agreement. The details of that document will be uploaded and discussed on october 23rd. Ms. Feeley and I are here if you have questions for city staff. Otherwise, I think it's appropriate to hear from the developer.
Alan Clendenin
11:45:57AM
Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
11:45:57AM
I did want either Mr. Massey or Ms. Feeley to talk about what the city might get from this development agreement or is that going to be talked about by the petitioner?
Morris Massey
11:46:14AM
Any consideration would be addressed in the amendment to the lease and consent to the sublease. We have some basic business terms that we think are agreeable but we're working through those. Those are still being finalized at this time. That would occur october 23rd when we talk about the consideration.
Lynn Hurtak
11:46:29AM
The reason I think should be talked about, because the public needs to know.
Morris Massey
11:46:36AM
Sure.
Lynn Hurtak
11:46:37AM
Maybe after their presentation or if they would like to talk about it during their presentation, I think what the city will gain from it is a part of the conversation that the public needs to understand. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
11:46:51AM
Councilman Carlson.
Bill Carlson
11:46:53AM
I apologize. I have to leave for a lunch meeting. But also, just for Morris, not to the petitioner, and I'll watch Mr. Shimberg's presentation later, a few things, one, I think that -- and I talked to you about this yesterday, I think the first hearing should have had the other agreement with it so the public and we could look at both of these. The second thing is that we have especially post-hurricane, we have homeowners desperately trying to rebuild their houses, developers trying to spend billions of dollars in our community and none of them are getting fast tracked in the process. In this case, walk-on, now a fast-track. It seems to me that it's unfair to everyone else. The last thing, and this is a contractual thing that I mentioned to you yesterday, I want to make sure that we not only -- that this height is only for this wheel, but the converse of that, that it's not for anything else. Because I want to make sure that nobody tries to use this as a back door in the future. The intent of council was to allow the height so now we can build a condo there. The last thing for the public's point of view, a lot of people in the public said why should the city care, it is a private developer, the problem is it is city-owned land. That is the only reason why it really has to be a discussion today. I apologize, Mr. Shimberg, I'll have to take off.
Morris Massey
11:48:19AM
Very quickly, this development agreement addresses one issue and one issue only -- the height of the structure. It is a very simple issue. Moving this development agreement to address that one issue was a fairly simple thing to bring forward to council. Some of the other things, some of the development agreements for large projects are much more involved. This is totally done by the developer, no city money, no city funding other than the lease agreement which will follow on the 23rd, we felt more appropriate to bring the lease agreement to you. When you actually voted on the development agreement so the vote would be together on both documents at the same time. Happy -- but your concern about making sure that this doesn't somehow act as a backdoor item for any other improvement, I'm happy to create some additional language in the development agreement to address that point because that's not the intent of the city here.
Bill Carlson
11:49:13AM
Thank you. You said that yesterday. I talked to Mr. Shimberg About it. Morris, just on the contract, the reason why I think the lease is relevant because it expires in six years or something like that, so we're extending it. I know there is a provision for them to extend it anyway. All of that is relevant. Maybe we'll have a more robust discussion.
Morris Massey
11:49:37AM
Understood. I expect on the 23rd we'll have a more robust discussion as we get into the lease terms. Jim Shimberg, Shubin Law Group, representing Tampa Bay Wheel, Llc. In a minute, I'll introduce Tony Miller, the developer of the project to come forward and go through a detailed presentation that will address some of the questions you heard from residents this morning during the public comment section. He'll also introduce members of the -- key members of the ownership group that are here with us today. We'll go through various details of the project. A couple of really quick points to start. As Morris said, this is the first of two required hearings on the development agreement. Only to increase height from 175 to 250 to allow this wheel. We already received faa approval. We worked through the process with Hillsborough County Aviation Authority which usually takes a little longer, but they usually follow the faa. A little bit of background on the other two documents. As you know, this is city owned property. It is leased to the Florida aquarium. This is a little bit less than half an acre of that property. So the client went to the aquarium. You have a representative of the aquarium here today that will be willing to speak afterwards. We're going to reimburse them for the parking revenue they would have generated from the spaces during the term of the lease. They also worked with the city to share, however the revenue is shared between the city and the aquarium. The sublease would then be between the aquarium and our client. Those will come before you next meeting. I think what Morris said makes sense. Still a couple of issues worked out at city staff. You'll hear from Mr. Miller that they started the process probably 8 months ago. They have been working on this a long time. Don't believe it's been fast tracked but appreciate the efforts of Ms. Feeley, Mr. Massey and other members of city staff to help us work through the issues. The city will also receive revenue share above our break-even point through that agreement, which you'll hear more details on as soon as the city finishes all the negotiations. They are very much looking out for your interest. I can assure you of that. Let me let Mr. Miller Come up and go through the presentation. Representatives from the Florida aquarium are here. Representatives of the ownership group. If there are technical questions we can't answer, but we appreciate your time today. I'll come back in a second.
Alan Clendenin
11:52:23AM
Cttv -- thank you. I have the developer for this project. I want to thank you all for the time and consideration here. I'll go quickly through a presentation here. I want to go in three parts. First, I want to give you some information about the wheel detail so everybody has a baseline on the information about the wheel itself. Then I would like to take you through some of the project specifics we've been working on for the last year. Finally, take you through what we think the value is of this project for the city, its residents and visitors. It's tampa wow. Tampa's wheel over water. This is our rendering of the wheel. The details of this, 250-foot tall wheel. Going to have panoramic views, 360-degree views. You'll be able to see everything from there. See the waterways, downtown tampa, Ybor, the port, and the views from that are going to be spectacular. You are going to see those views through a state-of-the-art gondola. 27 gondolas. Seat 10 to 15 people. They are climate controlled. These are really, really nice pods that can be programmed in many different ways. Average ride 20 to 30 minutes. The cost is $20 on average for adults and less for kids. It is a very affordable attraction. We're intending to have beverages and small bites. Place making around the base so it is a very nice and attractive place for people to come, have a drink, be able to take the drink on the ride. Hours of operation are 10 to 10, maybe later on weekends and special events. Couple of things that have been raised by the public and we are very focused on making sure we get the right information to everybody so they understand that this is a hurricane rated engineering structure. It's rated to Fema standards. Our ownership group has done seven of these around the country. Some are in hurricane prone areas. Very familiar with how to make sure this wheel is hurricane rated. There is an action plan to remove all 27 of the gondolas if the storm is too severe. And they will be stored off-site and then put back on the wheel post-storm. We feel very confident in the hurricane rating of this. Two other issues that I think a lot of people in the local area would ask about is noise and light pollution. The wheel is whisper quiet. The mechanics of this are very quiet. All the people are inside an enclosed pod. So the noise of this type of attraction is not something that is going to impede upon the local residents. Going back again, I think this is important to show -- we're having some technical difficulties. What I showed you initially, you can see that the lighting is uplighting. Architectural lighting. Similar to what you'll see on other buildings. All the lights on the wheel, they are white. They are not loud, bright colors. This is something that's not going to create light intrusion for our residents. So we feel very confident that the noise and light solution won't be an issue for the folks in the channel district area. Moving on, talk about some of the specifics. We started this process a year ago. We've been at this for a long time. Our team is very knowledgeable about what we're looking for. We looked at a lot of different sites, in the channel district, in the downtown area. We looked out at armature works. People asked us, did you even look at some of the other sites? We looked at many. We really had to find a site that was conducive to the economics of the wheel and was well located. We love the aquarium site because it is already in an existing entertainment zone. You've got the aquarium. You've got the cruise ships. It sits right in an entertainment zone. We thought that was advantageous for us as well as for the city. We then went to the aquarium. They were very supportive of the project. So we were happy about that. We then went to surrounding stakeholders in close to the area. I've got letters here of support from the folks we were talking to. We have a letter from the aquarium. We talked to the folks over at visit tampa bay. Sandy Augustine was very supportive of what we were doing. We talked to local developers in the area. Spp, Darryl Shaw, they both wrote letters of support for us. We talked to the downtown partnership and Kenyetta's team was very supportive as well. Finally, we went to the Cac and we got a unanimous vote or resolution in support of this project. They are representatives of the community there. We sent out 400 letters to that community in advance of that meeting and in advance of that vote. Beyond those folks, we talked to the leadership of the port. We talked to the lightning. We talked to a lot of businesses downtown. We tried to canvass and find out what we need to know about. From there, unanimous support from everybody we talked to, went to the city on march 5 and started having conversations with city staff. Over the last six months, they have worked diligently with us to really make sure that we have the best project put together. We also had conversations with city council as well in advance. We've tried to make sure that we're good community partners in this and that we're getting as much feedback as we can. That has kind of been the process to date. A couple of other things that I think are really important, one of the things that I think we heard is people are concerned about is this going to increase traffic? At Kenyetta's luncheon for the downtown partnership, she mentioned the city of tampa gets 30.1 million people coming into channel district as well as the downtown area every year. Nobody is going to come to the wheel and do a 20-minute ride and then immediately leave. Our audience are people already here. We're looking to extend and enhance the experience of those people. We are not anticipating that we're adding to the traffic issues at all. We're just leveraging the people that are here to expand and give them a better experience while they are down here. Terms of highest and best use, the land we're asking to lease is less than a half of an acre. That is a very small parcel. When we're stabilized, we will be able to deliver likely 500,000 to 600,000 riders every year. That's what we anticipate. So if you look at the value that we're creating, as an attraction, and how we're going to deliver that to more than half a million people, we're doing it in a footprint that is less than half an acre. There's no attraction in tampa and pretty much anywhere that's going to deliver that level of density in that small of a parcel. The last thing I would say is our team has sourced a wheel in Munich. I know there are people that have asked about it. Let me be very clear. We did that. It is a wheel our team just visited a couple of weeks ago. It is in great condition. We will disassemble that wheel. We'll refurbish it, ship it here and then assemble it. The reason we're doing that is twofold. One, we can do it in a year. Build one from scratch it would take two years. Second reason, cost us $20 million instead of $30 million. There are significant cost advantages and timeline advantages from doing that. It will be as good as a new wheel. The next thing talk about is value proposition. Four things I want to hit on as we close here. First, this is a $20 million investment. We're not asking for any support. In fact, as Jim just mentioned earlier, we are actually going to enter into an agreement that's going to include revenue share back into the city. We believe with economic development and that revenue share component, we're not drawing down from city funds. We're adding to city funds that you then reappropriate into infrastructure projects or whatever your priorities are for the city. We're additive from a standpoint of revenue for the city. Second, we're adding a world-class destination for families. We don't have enough family oriented attractions in downtown. This is going to allow a very affordable attraction, really focus on the family members. I'll come back to that in one second. The third component is, we're really helping drive the convention business. Santiago has been on record stating, it's another arrow in his quiver when he is trying to pull in conventions, particularly those that have already been here. We have 8 million visitors that already come, that are tourists that come into the downtown area, we're adding value and another attraction for those very important audiences that are already coming here. Final thing I would say, all the people that I mentioned before, those downtown stakeholders, these are people that start with the aquarium, 1.1 million people go to the aquarium. Their audience is our audience. We can expand that experience. The cruise passengers they are getting now I think 1.3 million people there. They come down a couple of hours early before they can get on their cruise. They need something to do. We're giving them something to do. We also can store their luggage, that frees those cruise passengers up to go visit all the other cool things to do in the downtown area, in the channel district area. We're additive to those 1.3 million people. If you look at the arena, if you look at water street, the riverwalk, Sparkman's wharf, all the critical downtown assets that the city invested into, we're building into that dwell time and economic benefit. We think all told we're delivering a ton of return on investment of a lease in one half an acre of parcel. If you think of the stakeholders, you think about the convention center and the families. The last thing I'll close with here is this. I've heard some comments, we're paying attention to the comments. We take them seriously. We want to address them, this is not unique and not original or a part of our character as a city. There have been comments that this is going to feel like a cheesy fair ride and there have been comments that say, hey, we don't want to be Orlando tourist city because they have a wheel. I'll take it in reverse order, we will not be Orlando. We are our own identity. However, we have 8 million visitors and tourists. I would not discount the importance of that to our economic development here. Second, this is a $20 million architectural landmark. This isn't some cheesy fair ride. It adds to the cityscape. The last thing I would say for those that say this is not original or this is something that's been done before, we all get an opportunity to go up in the towers and look down and see that really awe-inspiring view. We get the benefit of that. We've all done it. The families that come in to do the aquarium, who walk on riverwalk, they don't get the same opportunity. Those kids, those parents, when they go up to the top of the wheel and see what we've gotten to see, that will be a unique and original experience for them. It will be a high-value experience for those folks. I don't think that we should discount those family members who will think it is original and unique. I would say that if you look at the cities around the world, world-class cities would agree with that sentiment. None of these cities, and I would argue that these are all world-class cities have said we're not going to do this because somebody else has already done it. They have recognized the value, and they said, yes, we want to bring that value for our city, for our residents and for the visitors who come here. We think we're delivering a ton. I really want to answer any of the questions, if people have concerns about, we want to be good community partners in this, but I hope you see the value and thank you for your time and happy to answer any questions.
Alan Clendenin
12:05:04PM
Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
12:05:05PM
Thank you so much for this presentation. You talked about the stakeholders you met with, but there was a giant glaring error. I think I mentioned this to you when I met with you earlier. There were no residents. You talked to business owners. You talked to folks that -- the Cac is great but it is not the residents. What I would do between first and second hearing is contact the towers and find a way to have meetings with people who live right next to it so you can answer all of the questions. You answered some today. We'll get public comment with questions. Mainly what we're getting is we're hearing the same thing that you're hearing. We're getting e-mails about it. It would be best because I'll really listen to my constituents. I really highly recommend that you reach out to the different apartment, condo complexes, really talk to those folks, because they are who you need to sell. And I appreciate that. We are not shying away from talking to any residents at all. I think some of the comments we've heard we're hopefully addressing because in giving them the information that will give them comfort, so we'll absolutely try to do that. We've had a lot on our plate to try to get done. But we will absolutely make that reach out. People that are within the distance requirements. Again, this actual parcel itself is about a seven acre parcel that the city owns. We did the notice from the entire seven acre parcel, even though we're at the portion of the site that's closest to the aquarium, right across the street from the parking garage and right at the streetcar stop. I think some of those people might have been misinformed as to where it was on that parcel. Yeah, we will absolutely do our best over the next two weeks to try to touch as many points of contact as we can. One gentleman who spoke this morning that we'll reach out to as well who raised questions. We appreciate -- again, I realize that today is not a vote because it is the first of two public hearings. As Tony mentioned, we're trying to acquire this wheel from Munich which has other people that want it. Any indication of your thoughts would be appreciated. We understand there is still a lot more information to gain. Obviously, Councilman Viera and Carlson are not here right now. But any indication you can give our clients that are here that you think this is a good idea or we're on the right track would be appreciated. As Morris mentioned, any changes you want to the development agreement, we'd love to hear that as well.
Lynn Hurtak
12:07:52PM
I had one more question. Why is Munich getting rid of it? They market it so people can come and see it. This wheel has been on the market. We have a right to it, but we don't have a right to it forever. So we're under a clock. We want to do right by the community. We want to be good community partners. We're balancing that with we're under the gun from a timing perspective because they have somebody else who wants to buy the wheel. Trying to make that happen, get it faster and more economical price.
Lynn Hurtak
12:08:31PM
It didn't belong to Munich. Being set up in Munich to show.
Alan Clendenin
12:08:37PM
I'm shocked how many of the cities have ridden the wheel. Give an indication, I have a list of a few things in the development agreement. I worked with Ms. Feeley and Morris about, making sure that was included in there. Those are important issues to me. Part of the negotiations and see that in a couple of weeks. Only other thing, I don't know if this is a staff question or something you can answer. I'm worried about the street-level aesthetic. Again, I've ridden a lot of the wheels. Some of the times the wheels have the basic necessities at the bottom, take a booth and that's it. I've seen some a lot more elaborate and established out. This is not going to be a pd. We're not going to see an actual bound agreement so I can see what this is going to look like. How do we assure that the street level aesthetic is compatible with what we're looking for as we talked about the extension of the street, the riverwalk, we talk about the importance of this particular parcel and the integration with architecturally significant aquarium, spectacularly beautiful. I brought this up in the first meeting, important to me is the street level aesthetic and ensuring what that looks like and how that integrates with everything else. We only have a small parcel. Within the boundaries of the parcel that we have control over, we will do everything we can to create a place-making environment that I think addresses the concerns you have. We share the concerns. We want to be an appealing place for people to come to and be able to hang out for a little bit. So we're going to do everything, but we have a small boundary of what we're doing. We're trying to minimize our footprint so we don't disrupt the aquarium parking to any great degree. But we will, within that boundary, and we worked with stantec and our planners to say how do we create the landscaping that's going to have the appeal that you and we are looking for. Not asking right now for any changes to what the code requires in that area. We're going to have to meet all requirements of that channel district zoning requirement.
Alan Clendenin
12:10:59PM
I understand that. You asked for like what would be -- we wanted our opinion, what would get me on board. I think this is part of my thing, the aesthetic. There is a difference between -- luggage storage. That could be a barn. It could be a storage shed or something aesthetically pleasing. Landscaping, plant a couple of shrubs or do something really interesting that integrates with the theme of the aquarium. Spoke about in the very first meeting. Those are the kind of things I want to make sure. I don't know how you bind that, that, again, we have that level of integration. It can't -- for me to be able to -- again, I like this concept. I'm fully in support of the concept. I think it brings something really intriguing to the city of tampa. I love the fact that sparkman wharf, Amalie Arena, the clubs and things we've got around there. I think it integrates really well. Ybor City, family options as opposed to nighttime club. Not at any cost. This is a neighborhood that we want to really nurture and develop and bring it up. We have a beautiful exploding chicken in the middle of the circle. We want to play on some of these things. Art is important in the city of tampa. Staff, how do we bind this? How does this work because it's not a pd?
Abbye Feeley
12:12:33PM
Abbye Feeley, administrator for development and economic opportunity. I think there could be an attachment of some exhibits to the da that show the landscape plan, that show the street view. I think they had some street views in some prior documentation that we saw so they could share that with you as well. As mentioned, the da is for the height only, but that is your option under this. We did not choose to rezone this so that the land changed for the wheel. We chose to use a development agreement --
Alan Clendenin
12:13:11PM
I think it was a good idea.
Abbye Feeley
12:13:14PM
-- on top. That would be some of the additional, I think, exhibits that could be included at the developer's behest.
Alan Clendenin
12:13:27PM
In the next couple of weeks, I really do want to see something, and not just basic. Something binding of what this will look like once it is developed so it has that aesthetic. Our aquarium is an architectural wonder. Beautiful, spectacular. Some of the buildings on water street are architecturally significant buildings. He want to make sure something complementary to what is happening in the rest of that area. Like I said, we've worked with stantec. When we had our meeting, I went back to the planners at Stantec and said we need to put something on paper that really recognizes this. It's good for us, too. We actually have some things in place. Like a potential art installation, where you have seating around it. We create shade, we've got trees. We're not just trying to do the shrubs. We want to do something really impactful. We already have some of those. We're happy to include those. That's something that will help us as well with our customer base.
Alan Clendenin
12:14:30PM
I'm excited about it. I really do want to you bring a proposal that I can get fully 100% behind. Want to make sure I share that publicly. And a couple more dot the I, cross the ts that staff has. I think it is a great proposal. I love the fact that it is a private investment on very small footprint. With a private investment. Go forth, bring us a project we can get behind and love. I look forward to being one of the first riders.
Guido Maniscalco
12:15:04PM
A couple of things. Thank you for coming today. Of all the cities on this list, I've only been on the London eye and that was 20 years ago. The term ferris wheel comes up. To me, ferris wheel is a metal basket where I sit with my wife like you see at a carnival. This is a glass pod the size of a small bedroom. I remember in London, we walked around it. It's more upscale and all lit up, which brings me to my question. It is -- you said it is white lights, sure led or something of that nature. What happens at night? It said until 10:00 and maybe on weekends later. When you have residents that are directly impacted across the street, are they going to have to have black out curtains to keep the light out. Dimmed, turned off, people with families and young kids? My wife and I, we don't live in a bright area but we have a streetlight and had to get blackout curtains. Noise, I had to get new windows because I have neighbors that play dominoes for 12 hours a day and play loud music and my wife is in the house with earplugs. Will people have the same situation where it will be loud? I don't know what the mechanism sounds like. Loud turbine engines or like the streetcar. The streetcar passes through that and hear the clickety-clack of the streetcar. Great rhyme. What kind of noise do you have coming from this? What do you do with the lighting? I'm in a little condo and I feel the impacts of a streetlight and noisy neighbors. What do you have planned in mind for that? Our team went and rode the ride. I put up there whisper quiet because when they came back, that's what it is. Whisper quiet in terms of the mechanics of it. The wheel does not really make any noise. Not the clickety-clack, any of that stuff. Patrons of the wheel are inside an enclosed pod. You might have noise down below where people are just congregating in terms of like you would at any other type of event but again our audience is largely going to be family audiences. This is going to be people going and doing something else. We don't anticipate that there's going to be this noise issue at all. In terms of the light, that would be the bigger concern for me if I was one of the residents down there because we are far removed from most of the residents. Jim mentioned when we did our 300-foot, there's really almost no residents 300 feet from where we are. When they did 300 feet from the entire seven acre parking lot, that included now up to 400 residents. So in where we are really at, the reality is, there are very few residents that will be within any kind of noise issues. Light perspective, I went and stood at the site. The one tower that is closest to us behind that parking garage, I think there's about 15 residents that would be above the parking structure that would have a view of the wheel. Those would be the people that I would think would have concerns about lighting. The lighting that we have in what I showed you, it's uplighting. Along the spokes, we have white lighting. We can dim that. We can shut it off at a certain time. It will be, though, consistent with what they would look out and see on any of the other buildings that have lights on them. They are not going to be intrusive lights that are shining into their window. They are going to be uplighting, ambient lighting. Again, we have the ability to dim those lights. We're not looking to be people creating issues with our -- with the residents that are close by.
Guido Maniscalco
12:19:07PM
Two more things. In the agreement, because we haven't seen all the documents yet. I haven't seen all the documents yet. Does anything go to the city? Do you meet a certain dollar threshold of income and then a certain percentage is paid to the city because it is city property or do you sign a lease and that's it? For concessions and revenues, does a commission go to the city, a percentage? As Morris said, that's being negotiated right now, and your cfo and other people are looking at it with a fine tooth comb. The gist of the deal is we're reimbursing for all of the lost parking spaces for the entire time they are lost. The 50 spaces, whether occupied full-time or not, we're paying for those. In addition, your staff came back and said, wait a minute, what is the city getting out of this? We came up with an agreement where essentially the break-even, just ballpark, 350,000 riders. We expect 500,000 riders. 350,000 riders, average $20 a person, not including the food and beverage, around $7 million. Anything above that number, the city is going to get a revenue share and minimum number. Less than that, you'll get a minimum number. We're working through that with dennis and his team right now and hope to finish that by early next week. The city is putting in nothing. Setting aside this property currently used for parking to the aquarium, and this -- the other thing we didn't mention, this ride can be moved. Ten years, if you guys decide, which I know Councilman Carlson wasn't in favor of, but do something else with the property and aquarium doesn't need it anymore, this ride could be moved. We don't want to.
Guido Maniscalco
12:20:56PM
One other question, if you fail, if this fails and you say we're not generating money, what happens? What are the terms of the agreement where you're able to exit your lease? What provisions, say, look, tried it for a year, not making money, we're just taking it down. Has shared. We're making sure that is covered within the terms of that. So this is, again, we purchased this wheel for $20 million. We will then sell the wheel to somebody else or move it in some other place. But in no way will the city be strapped with any -- they'll get the land back. They won't have any financial encumbrances coming back on the city. That will be written into our agreement. Of days. If we do, that's in default of the lease. That's really not anticipated in this case. This is a valuable asset. Again, we're coming up with some very conservative projections, and they are in an area where there already is a ton of people -- we hope people will be on the streetcar, wait, let me stop and ride the ride and go back and continue on to ybor. We don't anticipate that happening, but we do have that built into the agreement. Seven very successful wheels. They know what the market demographics are and all the financial demographics that fall from that. We wouldn't be here if they thought there was any chance it would fail. But the city is protected if on the circumstance that does happen. Been a failure of one.
Guido Maniscalco
12:22:39PM
Last thing, mentioned already, there are people in the room, I don't know if they are for it or against. We heard from some. At least start with the folks that are here and then meet with more individuals. I know you did your noticing, but that area has changed. In the last 20 years, you have a lot of people. A lot of families. I mentioned at a previous meeting, I walked through there, go through the neighborhood, go through this area, there are a lot of families, a lot of strollers, it wasn't like that before. As you know, tampa has changed. As taxpayers and citizens, they have the right to communicate. We've gotten quite a few e-mails. I don't know if the gentleman is here, one very specific, one very detailed. Talking about his children. Again, to be respectful and make sure that everybody is heard, there are people here in the audience that you may connect with today. In the meantime between now and the second reading, further connect and reach out to the community and listen to their concerns and then we see -- thank you, sir.
Alan Clendenin
12:23:39PM
Councilman Miranda.
Charlie Miranda
12:23:40PM
Thank you. I really appreciate -- I have a few words to say. This is not your normal ferris wheel you see at a state fair or county fair. There's no flap. No rubber running a diesel engine making all the noise from what I can see here. Therefore, there's very little noise. I would imagine it's got different types of energy, all electric or whatever it is, that doesn't create anything but no noise and a good ride. Not that I'm going to ride it. Over six feet, somebody else can jump. What I'm trying to say, that area not too many years ago, there was nothing there. Absolutely nothing, not even 600 people in the whole downtown area. And 6 people waiting to get in jail waiting to get their seat. I'm not -- telling the truth. No harbour island. No side from Florida avenue east. Zero. In fact, there was zero in Franklin Street, tampa street, there was nothing there. All you had was a vacant sign and no one coming. How did it get to where it was at? Little by little, one nail at a time being fixed. And that's what got us here. A lot of cooperation from everyone, including everyone that lives somewhere else other than downtown. You see any city over 250,000 people, does not have a downtown is dying. Because you have to have something, heart instead of a human body. I see this as a continuation of something started. Ybor City didn't have anything. It had tumbleweed, drug addicts and prostitution at one time. Look at it now. Is it perfect? No, neither am I. I'm not perfect. There are a lot of things that people don't know or forgot to know or don't want to talk about it. We just gave away about $850 million here recently and no one gave a damn because it was something else. The public is protected. I hope the citizens that live here are protected. I think they will be from what I heard from Mr. Maniscalco's questions to you. And I believe that this is a continuation of a lifestyle that is needed in certain areas. Yes, we went from being nothing to having the highest, if I remember correctly, the highest hotel occupancy in the country at about -- rooms are rented. Barbra Streisand didn't do that. You can see where barbra streisand is. That's what got us where we're at. Everybody working together, making sure everybody was satisfied and doing what is best not only for the individuals that making the investment but for the citizens of the city of tampa that we, the seven of us and the mayor have to protect. That's what we took the oath of office for. I'll be in favor of this. There's no backfall that I know. Like to see you work in agreement, like Mr. Maniscalco Talked about. And see where the finances are. It's a continuation of what we -- went from nothing, tourist destination because of people like santiago, done a terrific job with visit tampa bay. Bollywood, twice the size of the hollywood show. Amazing for a city of our size. No one wanting to come here, you did not either. You wouldn't have come here if the city of tampa was what it was 30 years ago. You would be crazy. Now it's different. Crime rate in tampa is one of the lowest in the country, even though someone killed in the last couple of days. One of the lowest in the country. One of the lowest it's ever been here. We try to do the best we can with what we have. Just listening to the conversation about an hour now, I see very little reason -- I'll be supporting it. Read what the dynamics of the numbers are. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
12:28:19PM
Any other questions? Who differ with us on this, I'll stick around. Anybody who wants to come talk to me after this, happy to have that conversation and hopefully answer any of their concerns.
Alan Clendenin
12:28:38PM
I appreciate you doing the public notice to the extended area. That was above and beyond. Appreciate that. Recognize that. Anybody in the public that wishes to speak to this item that has not already spoken today? It's not quasi-judicial. Joe Robinson. I'm asking the question: this is in district 5, correct? When is this going to come back up here? It will be back before the end of the month, so it would be after the election. I appreciate you guys making sure because I would like to have had a district 5 representative here. However, based on what I know. Charlie, I agree with you 1,000 percent, man. Atlanta has got one. Didn't have Atlanta up there. We started the football game when they did it. Given away the form to other people around here. I know what you're talking about. Used to wear black. Wearing black today, but ain't for that reason. This is a positive thing for the Channelside. I have friends, invite over for dinner, lunch. Used to stay in the twin towers. That was a bankrupt deal that really came back around. The thing about this, it creates a destination. You got all of these people down there. You got families coming down, this is not the old carnival ferris wheel at the north state fair. This is a major, engineered wheel, being an engineer, mechanical at that. This is not something that the Florida agriculture inspector has to come and take a look at because it fails. This is not something that -- where somebody got killed at Disney World, whatever that roller coaster ride is, guy had traumatic blunt trauma. This doesn't move that fast. People say they have to take it down in the hurricane. I don't know any of them. Speaking as a person in tampa and stays in district five. I don't stay necessarily up there but I'm in district five. I think this is something positive that give people an opportunity to see tampa because they are correct. 1,000 percent right. I don't even have a chance to go up to the tampa club and all the tall buildings and look out and see what we've got. Every now and then somebody might invite me up there and look at the turkey vultures out the window. Bottom line, I think this is positive. Got to be some money coming back and something that we need in tampa. This will be an icon of an event. If it doesn't work, Mr. Maniscalco, they say they can dismantle it and I guarantee you it will sell because it's already now a pressure to be sold and they are trying to get a good deal to make the numbers work. I'll be back after lunch with the next issue. I support this. We need this. As an individual in district five, I just wish we had the represent here to make the call.
Alan Clendenin
12:32:08PM
Thank you. Stephanie Poynor. Anybody else that wishes to speak, if you would stand and get along the wall. Stephanie Poynor. This is what I thought about. The list that the gentleman shared only had one hurricane prone city. I don't know much about Europe and South Africa and whatnot. This is what I thought of as soon as I saw this. One of my favorite movies, 1941. I want to make sure we don't have this kind of thing happening. [ laughter ] that's all I -- one way or the other, I don't really give --
Alan Clendenin
12:32:55PM
Stephanie, Stephanie. 1941. it is a funny movie. Speaking in support of the wow. Mr. Miller Talked specifically about the tourism that we would be capitalizing on and the fact that the traffic may already be here would be enhancing their experience. They are discounting the fact that there are a lot of residents in Tampa Bay, even as far as St. pete and Sarasota that would be coming to experience the wheel. As a transplant from Miami, I grew up in Miami in the '70s and '80s when the downtown was struggling to be what it is today. To Mr. Miranda's point, it was embarrassing to come down here at the time where now it is a great place of pride and joy. In fact, when people visit family members, friends, first thing we do, we take them down the river cruise. We like showing off the jewels of the city. Straz, tampa general, Ut, riverwalk, armature walks, our favorite places to go and we go as a family regularly. Our gym is down here. My wife and I commute downtown constantly, probably three, four times a week. To know there is another opportunity for us to experience the city in a novel way is brilliant. It is something we as a city have to consider enhancing our overall experience as residents. One of the things also underestimated here, we'll be able to see St. pete and all of tampa bay, a beautiful sight. One of the best components of what this thing can offer. I appreciate you guys considering it. I do support it.
Alan Clendenin
12:34:40PM
St. pete, the former home of the rays? Too soon? Too soon? [ laughter ] Chris Lancaster. I think I am the person who wrote the super long detailed e-mail. I'll skip some of that. Councilman Miranda, I am the person 30 years ago who dreamed of making downtown tampa my home. Apologize if I get a little upset. I'm here for my 10-month-old son. I live in Channelside. Face easterly toward the actual proposed wheel itself. I go to the aquarium every single day with my son Isaac. We are particularly concerned about light. Since I only have three minutes, I want to start with the development being similar to the Orlando eye. I'll read from the website. Orlando eye at night it is described as a spectacular attraction with over 63,000 led lights creating a dazzling beacon visible for miles. Illuminated display creates a focal point for the Orlando skyline, perfect for enjoying the views from this unique vantage point. Tampa wow is 35% smaller than the Orlando eye. Not exactly the same but within a thousand feet of where I live. I have a hard time believing that the beacon visible for miles can be effectively organized within a cd 1 development. That's my second objection, which is every single development that we have in the city of tampa that is similar to an amusement park ride is in a planned development zone or a cbd zone. There are zero that are in cd-1s or Cm-1s or ci-1s or cn-1s, so on and so forth. They are all planned developments. Councilman Clendenin, I think you had an extremely good point, how are we going to make sure all the things are right if they were required to rezone and create this as pd one and submit all the things to the city, perhaps I would not be here today. Feels a little bit like Mr. Smith goes to Washington. That being said, we think that is something that residents would really care about. Additionally, I think you all should know what residents received. I received a nondescript random envelope that basically looked like junk mail. Because we open stuff, we were like holy smoke, they are creating this. The majority of the residents who are in my building can't be here today because they have jobs, families, lives. It is very difficult for them to be here. I'm lucky I'm a stay at-home dad. I get to show up and say my thing. I believe and I think residents believe they are not inherently against this but they have serious concerns that a cd 1 provision in the development plan that's on file do not answer and until we decide as a council and as a city and as residents, unless we ask the developers to go through a traditional rezone, there will be questions that staff will have to answer, that council will have to answer that the ordinance already provide for. It is extremely exciting that people want to invest $20 million into my neighborhood. But I'll remind you this is 40 feet taller than gauzy, illuminated and less than a thousand feet from my home. Don't let temple terrace do it, I don't think we should do it here. Bob Harrington. I am a resident of Channelside. Obviously, we are not represented by a councilwoman, unfortunately. Please, I ask you to take our concerns since we are not represented. I'm against this for a few reasons. Number one, I disagree with the traffic. Said there would be no traffic. I disagree with that. I think traffic will be increased. I believe 50 spaces mitigated. 50 spaces will be mitigated from the parking. Ever been down there when the ships are in? It is a cluster down there. People looking for parking. Living in a condo across the street, we frequently have people coming in for the ships looking for parking spaces. This will add more problems for us. Next, the gentleman put up on the board several cities that had -- I don't want to call it ferris wheel, their wheel, whatever. Those weren't in residential areas. Those were in city areas. This is in a residential area of tampa. Lastly, the gentleman said it's good for families, which is great. I like that idea. Why don't we put it in Curtis Hixon. The Straz, The Children's Museum is right there. Art museum, right down the riverwalk from the convention center. You have festivals there all the time. It will be great. Great to have it there. I have a minute left, but thank you.
Alan Clendenin
12:39:32PM
Thank you. Next. As member of the cac for the channel district. My neighbor and comember for Cac wasn't able to get to, mark for considerations that should be made. First thing, in that particular area, lack of infrastructure around the wheel, where it is separated out and deal with the people waiting and limited space in that area. Also, channel district, we are already well under our need for greenspace. Currently, 3% of the 12% for the strategic plan for the district. We need to consider opportunities for converting parking into greenspace as well. The last one is for the consideration, I think mentioned by someone else about the riverwalk expansion that would come up that way to head to gas works ybor city, that should also be considered as far as the impact between the port and the fourth terminal coming as well.
Alan Clendenin
12:40:41PM
Thank you. Anybody else? I want to address one thing about the district five representation. Just so you know, there are three of us that sit on council that represent citywide. We actually kept the legislative aide Darlene Johnson, the district five person, and she's been working all the constituency services. After the passing of Councilwoman Henderson, I transferred her to my employment so we could retain her to be able to continue to work constituency services in district five. Not only do we have the legislative aide that does all the heavy lifting which we all have a legislative aide that does the work and does the constituency services for us, we kept that for district five. Three of us citywide, all three of us sitting here right now. Myself, Councilwoman Hurtak, and Councilman Maniscalco. It's our responsibility to look out for the interest of everybody in the entire city, including those in Channelside in district five on the issues. I know I keep hearing that. Hear that frequently on social media as well, but I want to remind folks that you do have a voice. You are able to reach out to district five. Darlene Johnson will be able to field those for you as well or reach out to honestly even the folks that are single member districts, I'm sure they would be happy to speak with you about the issues as well. Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
12:41:56PM
I wanted to say the reason is because so you always have a majority representation on council. So you can vote for four of us because your district and then citywide people so that ideally -- there are seven of us, represented by four people, always represented by the majority of the body. That's kind of how it goes.
Alan Clendenin
12:42:18PM
Four votes win. Hearing nothing else, I think it's lunchtime. 12:42.
Martin Shelby
12:42:25PM
Motion to close the public hearing.
Alan Clendenin
12:42:27PM
Motion to close from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from --
Lynn Hurtak
12:42:32PM
I know that Mr. Shimberg and the folks working on the project said they would reach out to those individuals. Please make sure you stay here. If you are part of a -- if you live in one of the towers and want to put a meeting, make sure that you get contact information and can make that happen because I'm telling you now I'm going to be asking in two weeks to make sure that's happened and to see what some of these folks have to say after they have gotten more information and that's really the beauty of everything is more information sharing, make sure people have their questions answered. Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
12:43:08PM
We have a motion to close the public hearing from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor aye. Opposed. Ayes have it unanimously.
Martin Shelby
12:43:15PM
If we could have an announcement when the second public hearing will be, where and when, what time?
Lynn Hurtak
12:43:28PM
File da 25-18100, the second hearing related to the proposed development agreement between the city of tampa and Tampa Bay Wheel Llc relating to a portion of the property located at 701 Channelside drive, Tampa, Florida, will be on october 23, 2025 at 10:30 a.m. at 315 east kennedy boulevard. Third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.
Alan Clendenin
12:43:55PM
10:30ish.
Martin Shelby
12:43:58PM
10:30 or anytime thereafter.
Alan Clendenin
12:44:01PM
We have a motion to close from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. 1:45. We'll be back at 1:45. [lunch recess]
Alan Clendenin
01:49:58PM
I call this meeting to order. Roll call, please.
Charlie Miranda
01:50:02PM
Here.
Guido Maniscalco
01:50:04PM
Here.
Lynn Hurtak
01:50:05PM
Here.
Luis Viera
01:50:06PM
Here.
Bill Carlson
01:50:07PM
Here.
Alan Clendenin
01:50:08PM
Here.
Clerk
01:50:08PM
You have a quorum.
Alan Clendenin
01:50:11PM
Thank you very much. Per our agenda, council member Viera, I recognize you.
Luis Viera
01:50:15PM
Yes, sir, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to call up, if I may, miss heather erickson to present this item, and I will present our speakers that are here for this. Thank you, Mr. chair and council for allowing this to come at this time.
Alan Clendenin
01:50:30PM
Start with your name, please.
Heather Erickson
01:50:33PM
[inaudible] -- we have a bench dedication. It is really my pleasure for you to know a little bit of his story, and I think that is going to get told between the councilman and his parents. But I brought a little mock-up of what the bench would look like. We did work with the parents on the process of what the language would look like, and it will go on a bench, and it kind of ties right into his eagle scout project, which was building benches. The bench will be outside of the new tampa playground at the rec center. If you have been out there, it is like ants on peanut butter and that playground is packed all the time, and his name will be seen daily. As soon as that gets in, we will get back with the family and schedule something at the park. My pleasure meeting them today.
Luis Viera
01:51:37PM
Thank you, yes, ma'am. Thank you for all your work. If I may set this up. Carolyn and Mahmoud Hassan, who will be coming up in a little bit to talk and share from the heart, and I had the pleasure of meeting about a year and a half ago. And -- I'm going to try not to cry, and that's all I am going to say. Gabe Hassan passed on in february of 2024 at the age of 17 due to leukemia. His parents are here. They are good and decent people. They live in the new tampa area. They attend the new tampa mosque out there. And they are just very good folks. Gabe was diagnosed with Shwachman-diamond syndrome, a rare disorder that caused him to encounter many challenges throughout his life and what -- there I go again -- I am just going to pull through this. What made him such an exceptional person is how he would live such an exceptional life and be a light to so many people throughout his time here on earth. He would have -- just within a span of five years -- seven major surgeries and often live in protective isolation, going through a kind of medical challenge that would be traumatic for him, traumatic for his parents, traumatic for his social upbringing, and different things like that. But in spite of that, he was able to get a 4.7 gpa award in high school. And weeks before he passed on, he was given his -- not long before he passed on, he was given his diploma from Wharton High School while he was at the hospital. He was always a very loving son to his parents as well as to his family. His dream was always to become an eagle scout. He was very passionate of the values being an eagle scout, and ultimately with troop 148, a ceremony was given for him in the hospital room just days before he passed on. There were three big pillars in his life, which were scouting -- because scouting -- y'all have told me about this -- represented integrity and character and just doing the right thing and being a good person, which is what being an eagle scout is about. His family -- very, very loving to his family, as well as his faith as a muslim. And so, you know, we want to honor him because it is something that touched a lot of people in new tampa. We just want to make sure he is remembered, because he was such a special young soul. So Mahmoud and Carolyn, if you want to speak to the esteemed council members. It is a tremendous honor. That is the only way I can put it. He was a wonderful human being. I am not just saying that as his father. He knew how to light up the room. He was an amazing young man. Patriotic. Loved his country very much. He loved his troop. He was a young man of faith. He was loved at his high school. People would high-five him and smile at him. He had a lot of charisma and believed in the scout law, being honorable and helping people at all times. Despite his disability, he went out of his way to help others and set a good example for that. He was a teenager and feisty and gave us a hard time at times, but through all that, he was just an amazing, you know, light in our lives and our first-born son and our first love. But also, he also reminded us how precious life is, because things were going great. My wife and I were celebrated our 20-year marriage anniversary. Going on vacations. And all of a sudden, we went to the doctor and found out his blood work was not good, and he started to develop cancer and started descending with his health. We watched him slowly deteriorate over time, which was extremely difficult and traumatic. To see his name honored on a bench and a plaque means the world to us and beyond. We don't want his name to be forgotten or lost. We want his name to be remembered and seen so young kids and generations sitting on that bench can see his name and hopefully he can inspire others. Truly an honor. Thank you, Mr. Viera, and thank you everybody for attending and allowing us this privilege.
Luis Viera
01:56:04PM
If I may unless --
Luis Viera
01:56:08PM
Only if you want to. I didn't want to interrupt you. Gabe. Gabe was definitely the definition of perseverance. He had seven leg surgeries in a matter of five years. Not once did he say, oh, woe is me. He said, god must really love me so much to really test me like this. And you know what, I still remember him helping another eagle with his... Project. He had a fixture on him. His first one. I was scared to death he would fall on me. He said leave me alone. I am painting. That was just him. He was a go-getter. He was one of the good ones. He really was.
Luis Viera
01:56:58PM
Thank you. Thank you, guys. Were you -- oh. Just -- I wanted to say thank you guys for sharing from the heart. It is hard to go in public on such a tremendous hurt. That takes tremendous courage and takes a lot heart. So thank you.
Luis Viera
01:57:17PM
You guys are wonderful. Appreciate it.
Alan Clendenin
01:57:21PM
Our heart breaks for you.
Luis Viera
01:57:24PM
It does. I mean this is just to have it presented. And it will be up in a matter of, I guess, miss Erickson, months, weeks?
Luis Viera
01:57:35PM
There you go. Thank you. Be well.
Alan Clendenin
01:57:42PM
Okay. Now we are moving on to item 26, which is riding with item 23. tik tok star Larry Washington. Hey, Darlene.
Bill Carlson
01:58:08PM
40 under 40.
Alan Clendenin
01:58:15PM
40 under 40. I appreciate that. I remember being under 40, 1,000 years ago.
Larry Washington
01:58:27PM
Good afternoon, Larry Washington of the solid waste, here for two items. Can I cover item 23 first and then lead into the other?
Alan Clendenin
01:58:39PM
Perfect. We will have to have a vote on 23.
Larry Washington
01:58:43PM
Item 23 is the reallocation of funds, $10 million, in the solid waste budget itself to ensure that we can make some changes or some updates with our generators since there was an issue previously, which I briefed most of you on september 19. we had an issue gearing up our generator, which resulted in the damage of the generator. I want to make sure that everyone is aware as well, that we can still process waste; however, we can not generate energy right now, electricity. So we can still burn at least 85% of the trash that is generated by the city of tampa, which is roughly 6,000 to almost 7,000 per week; however, a portion of that will be land filled, but not as much as we previously had during the are et throw fit. So I wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of what was going on. However, to ensure there are no delays to the public as far as trash collection, processing and in addition, no delays to the transfer station and patrons as well. So no long lines. No issues with commercial or residential service. A memo was provided by myself and the cfo -- who unfortunately wasn't able to join us today -- but we will be able to answer if you have any questions.
Alan Clendenin
02:00:02PM
Remind me of normal operations if we approve this resolution?
Larry Washington
02:00:06PM
Something like this usually takes a year. Luckily, we have material with our contractors. They have the material, which is copper. So it will be roughly five months.
Alan Clendenin
02:00:16PM
Nice. Good. Very good.
Larry Washington
02:00:18PM
Yeah. We are aggressively trying to restore the plant as fast as possible.
Alan Clendenin
02:00:23PM
Council members have any questions? Council member Carlson.
Bill Carlson
02:00:26PM
My aide is out and sorry if we didn't schedule something. Any recovery or cost of this? Any insurance or warranty to get the recovery of it?
Larry Washington
02:00:40PM
Right now, no. looking internally, we will reduce expansions going out and increase revenue coming back in. We have a couple of things coming to you with ordinance updates and whatnot, but right now, no.
Bill Carlson
02:00:52PM
Okay, thank you.
Alan Clendenin
02:00:53PM
Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
02:00:55PM
Thank you for the briefing I got earlier. You also said, though, that this will not harm us. That you actually had some money left over in last year's budget that will cover this?
Larry Washington
02:01:07PM
So we are not asking for additional monies. We are asking to move money around in the solid waste budget itself. We have the money to cover it.
Lynn Hurtak
02:01:15PM
That's what I mean. We are not having to go, you know, find money for this. We were lucky enough to have some money to handle it, and I think that is the most important part. But I also said this. I never, ever regret the chance to say that while we are going through this, the less trash people create, the better off it is. So this is a good time that if you haven't tried either recycling or composting, city offers some great classes on composting. I highly recommend you give it a whirl.
Alan Clendenin
02:01:48PM
Can you tell the giddiness when she started talking of trash and composting. Council member Maniscalco, do you want to move item 23?
Guido Maniscalco
02:01:56PM
Yes. And before I do, thank you, Mr. Washington. He briefed me yesterday. And you went over everything very specific details and answered all my questions. I appreciate you. I move item 23.
Alan Clendenin
02:02:08PM
Motion from council member Maniscalco. Seconded from Councilwoman Hurtak. All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Ayes have it. Thank you. Now go to 62.
Larry Washington
02:02:15PM
Item 62 is a bid approving the Zampell refractories in the span of five years of $5.8 million and do you have any questions?
Alan Clendenin
02:02:29PM
Council have any questions?
Guido Maniscalco
02:02:30PM
No, move the item.
Alan Clendenin
02:02:32PM
Motion from council member Maniscalco to move item 62. second from Council member Miranda. All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Ayes have it unanimously. Thank you very much, Mr. Washington. A lot of sitting and waiting for not that much time.
Larry Washington
02:02:45PM
I don't mind.
Alan Clendenin
02:02:48PM
Okay. We have -- did we already move 63 and 64.
Guido Maniscalco
02:02:59PM
67.
Alan Clendenin
02:03:01PM
67?
Brad Baird
02:03:06PM
Good afternoon, council, Brad Baird, deputy of infrastructure. September 6, we passed our six-year anniversary for pipes. Four of you were actually there that night and approved the program. It has been hugely successful. Eric and Rory are going to go through some of the numbers for you. So they are pretty impressive. And then they are going to highlight a few of the projects. With that, I will turn it over to Eric Weiss.
Eric Weiss
02:03:36PM
Eric Weiss, wastewater department director. We have a wastewater presentation, if you can bring it up. So the backbone of the pipes project is our master plan. You know, it is a 20-year period to look ahead. Wastewater assets are in three groups. You got our wastewater treatment plant, pumping stations, and our actual pipes in the ground. And what this is, we did a master plan for each at the howard curren advanced wastewater treatment plant. The 20-year plan looked at the condition of our current assets there, new technology, current and future environmental regulations and population. So we put that all together, and in 2018, that $561 million, that first line, that was our master plan for our treatment plant. The next line down is our wastewater pumping stations. That was a lot easier to put together. We have 229 pumping stations out in the city of tampa. Industry standard is every 20 years, you have to do a major retrofit. So that is how we kind of put that together. And last -- that is the actual pipes. We have 1500 miles of wastewater pipes in the city of tampa, 60% before 1970 and 50% past 1950. past in its useful life. We ranked it. We came up with $648 million over the 20 years. So these are the three master plans that we did. Where are we at now? So, since the start of pipes, we have done 119 different projects and over $730 million. I just looked this morning. About 60% of that right on the nose we paid out to our contractors and consultants. One of the issues we were going to be doing is -- we did this before covid, before lots of inflation hit. We put inflation in the master plans, but obviously what we experienced was more than that. I put a number of $181 million. We don't really know yet. So what we are doing is currently through contract administration department, we have engineering services advertised. And we want to select somebody and say, look at all these remaining projects. What is the actual cost or the new cost to finish that 20-year plan. And then look at some new environmental regulations that may have come up like pfas and forever chemicals. On the wastewater side, it is not cast in stone like on the water side, but Epa is working on it. Now would be a good time for our consultant to start looking at it and plan it a little bit. Okay. I am not going to go through all 19 projects. I have three. Bayshore Blvd. Blvd. pumping station, located in the median of Bayshore Blvd. Blvd., South Bay to Bay Boulevard. It was built in the 1950s, and the engineering standard at that time put all the pumps and its electrical gear two to three stories below ground. Modern practice due to storm surge, climate change, yeah, you can't -- it doesn't happen anymore. We were already starting this project when hurricane helene hit. Tampa actually flooded out and destroyed -- we had a stationary bypass generator. We already had this project in the works. Good news is this project started last year. We are supposed to be online by the end of next month. So hopefully everything checks out, and we can start breaking down and be done by christmas. You know, it is a big sustainability part of this. If you can see there is a building and a bunch ed -- a bigger wall around it in the picture. That building holds electrical equipment. Around it stops the storm surge from damaging our facility and has a submarine door on the outside that we can close up during the storm. Second project is the howard curren advanced wastewater treatment plant. What people don't know is, we produce 60 tons of liquid oxygen every day. We take oxygen from the air and cool it about 240 degrees below zero and make it liquid. And then we put it into the wastewater treatment process. Well, our original plant was built in the 1970s with cryogenic -- what it is called -- technology. Very old technology. Nobody is doing that anymore and even less people you can find out in the community to service it. This is a brand -new technology that has been around but not cryogenic anymore. We selected the design builder for it, and it was about a $40 million project. And we will be coming to you guys soon for the initial engineering services. And last one is also at the howard curren treatment plant, our aerobic digesters. You may have heard me say during the wastewater treatment process we collect a solid material called "sludge." we treat the sludge to get rid of the protozoans and bad stuff. We do it in the large tanks called aerobic digesters and bacteria eat all the bad stuff. A lot less mass. We then take the finished material and haul it offsite. The original aerobic digesters were built in the 1950s, the original part when the plant was first constructed. We have about three more years left in this, and the picture, two of our $2.5 million each tanks and sitting on piles and coming out of the ground with the walls. With that, I will turn it over to Rory Jones.
Rory Jones
02:09:53PM
Thank you, Rory Jones with The Water Department. Like Eric did, I will go over our original budget and what we awarded and a couple of trends. One that is negative. He mentioned our construction cost. And then some positive ones out of it. I will highlight a couple of problems and then give you an outlook of what is going to be hitting the docket here soon. We will start with -- you know our original budget was $1.5 billion of that $2.88 or $2.9 billion program. And to date, we have awarded more than $630 million in projects, remaining from the original was $878 million. Sounds good, but really the takeaway from this deferred projects page is those two in the middle -- and you can see really the upwards trend that we are seeing, the dlt master plan problems and our distribution plan projects. We have got an increase since the pandemic, and that is really the main takeaway from this. At this moment, we have the construction cost estimated at $607 million. Our team put together this comparison of -- this is our low bid contract. We had a couple of contractors on board pre- and post-pandemic. And you can see the cost increases across the board. This is something that, like Eric mentioned, we did build inflation into the overall cost estimates, but not to the tune of what incurred as part of the pandemic. This is really both labor and material cost. But it is not -- we are not ringing -- sounding the alarm yet. There is a lot of positive that is coming out -- obviously a lot of the pipes funding program. Most notably here is we are seeing main breaks decrease, that is because we are replacing our infrastructure. We do also have a downward trend in water loss, which is -- which is a good thing as well. Here is another kind of graphical recommendation. A heat map of those main breaks, pre- and post-pandemic. You can see on the right, it is trending the right direction. So we are pleased with what we are getting with our money here. And I wanted to highlight a couple of projects, and the first one here is the filter building improvements. $115 million project. We are adding necessary capacity 20 mgd to our filtering process. Here in the highlighted yellow, that is where the footprint of this structure is going, we are adding deep bed biologically active filters. And it is augmenting or adding to those banks of filters to the right of that screen as well. And this gives us the necessary capacity so we can properly service those -- those old ones. Here are some additional pictures of that footprint. And eventually -- to the left that is what you will see. The new building. Orange on the right is our existing filters. New stuff on the left. This should be wrapping up by the end of 2027. another 3-d rendering of that as well. Next project I want to highlight chemical systems and improvement project. This has been ongoing effort to -- to decommission -- oops, I skipped ahead. Here in the yellow to decommission our gaseous chlorine dis-infecting process and we have done that. Clear out the room to put the railcar to put in Hypocholoric there and we decommissioned that. And today it looks a lot like this. A lot of piping and a lot of equipment in that room, and I am excited to say that next week, we are -- we should be commission the first on-site chloride generation unit. This is going to give us control of our own destiny, especially in adverse situations like hurricanes. Won't rely on the outside vendors to deliver chemicals.
Alan Clendenin
02:14:29PM
I don't know who is more excited about that, you or her. You got a big smile. She is over there -- this is low-strength bleach, less strength than what you would get at publix. Much safer for the community. So what is upcoming? So within a month or two, you should see an amendment for our sixth design. We are excited to kick this off officially. Within the next couple of months, sidewalk electrical improvements will be kicking off modernizes our electrical treatment at the plant. Makes us more redundant and much safer adds generational capacity. With all the improvement from with the pipes program, it increases our electrical capacity. And we have had to replace these 25-year-old generators that no longer would service our electrical needs here. So we are replacing those as well. Finally here is within the couple of months, we will be submitting a gmp approval as well, really the intakes coming off the river. Our original pumps are still in operation today. And this configuration helps us clean what is floatable and coming off the river and is providing a better intake should much a prolonged drought occur. We would have the additional capacity kind of pulling from the river. And, you know, I -- although I did showcase some downward trends, you know, with our construction costs, I can't imagine where we would be without the pipes program. I would hate to think about it. You know, I am proud of the team's accomplishments. And look forward to our future. With that, I will open it up to any questions.
Alan Clendenin
02:16:35PM
Council have any questions? Councilman Carlson.
Bill Carlson
02:16:38PM
One thing that would be helpful -- thank you, all, for your presentation. One thing that will be helpful is to show a track of the original total estimates -- it was like $2.9 billion, and how we are tracking against the total so we can -- we can see -- in knowing that -- the -- or the third page of the deferred projects. And we are doing --
Bill Carlson
02:17:07PM
I think you did it project by project. My point is the whole -- how is the whole budget tracking compared to where we thought it would be at this time.
Bill Carlson
02:17:17PM
To see overall if we --
Alan Clendenin
02:17:20PM
Under-over.
Bill Carlson
02:17:21PM
Yeah, under-over. Water treatment plant. $115 million. Have you guys had an appraisal of it? What is the value?
Bill Carlson
02:17:39PM
The value for insurance purposes more than $400 million? I don't see Brad -- but over $1 billion from an insurance perspective.
Bill Carlson
02:17:50PM
And then two other quick things for Eric. One, thank you for the pump facility in front of Monte Carlo. I was asked questions about it last night. Thank you for being proactive on that and moving that ahead. Same thing on the water pipes, because we were able to plan this several years ago, we were ahead of pipes breaking. You know another thing, rory, it would be good to track the cost we were paying for the response. Remember when it was originally sold, the idea was, if we keep respawning these pipes breaking, here is the total cost. You showed the heat map. But important to see how much we are saving even though the total project may gone up. And because our construction costs are going up, it doesn't showcase as well. Because we originally had these project estimated as a certain value. The construction costs have gone up, even though our water loss has decreased, our main breaks have decreased, our construction costs were up --
Bill Carlson
02:19:02PM
But the ad hoc -- if a road collapsed because a pipe breaks, you would have to pay today's cost to fix it, that means those costs will go up too. That will be up in the model. Post-pandemic material and labor costs to that extent.
Bill Carlson
02:19:21PM
We can talk about it off-line. It would be interesting to go back and show the public if we are at today's rates, if we had to go and repair the collapses and there will be more and more over time now because the pipes are getting older. Good news for Eric on the facility around Monte Carlo and the areas behind stoval are hoping that we will avoid the problems. We hope. And then -- then the last thing that tanks -- what do you call them, bio tanks.
Bill Carlson
02:20:01PM
Folks on Davis Island were really upset a few months ago. What can we say to them. Will this fix the problem? What happened then is, you know, we got hit with some kind of chemical that we didn't know -- we still don't know where it came from.
Bill Carlson
02:20:20PM
Somebody came with a truck and dumped something -- we have 211 square miles of our service area. We think it was coming into the plant. When you look at some of the data and it killed our bacteria in our existing digesters. Bacteria couldn't break down the sludge. All that have been healed for month. This will give us redundancy in the big digesters. At the head part of the plant, a older equipment that is 40 years old. We are in the process of replacing that. We hired a consultant. That is all they do is municipal wastewater odor control facilities, every 700 of them. We are 701. we engaged them in february and a 30% design here is what we recommend.
Bill Carlson
02:21:23PM
A way to divert bad chemicals that may be coming into it? And we have done a lot.
Bill Carlson
02:21:30PM
I don't want to waste anybody else's time on this, but Davis Island those folks that were hit great to follow up on communication. There are the three or four things we are doing and copy me please just so we know besides the immediate response that you are on top of, longer term investments to help with that. The plant to help preclude that from happening again.
Bill Carlson
02:21:56PM
Thank you so much.
Alan Clendenin
02:21:57PM
Any other questions? Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
02:21:59PM
Thank you. Thank you for this report. Always good to see where we are. And unfortunately with what the economy has done has, you know, kind of hampered our efforts but doesn't mean that we are not continuing to move on and you all are doing good work. My only question was please Jones, the data you had was only through fy '22. Me an opportunity to explain that. Should have done that earlier. Hurricanes have really messed and skewed the data. We had a lot of main breaks due to trees toppling over, equipment running over water meters, hitting hydrants. And it really threw the day at that significantly off. I don't mean to be misleading here and leave that data out, but it was really skewed because of the hurricanes.
Lynn Hurtak
02:22:52PM
That's fair. And I think, though, that I would rather see it and explain it away, because, I mean, everybody knows -- everybody knows exactly what happened during the hurricanes. They know -- all of that stuff makes logical sense. You say it right now it makes logical sense. But even then, this does tell part of the story because quite frankly, we still have to spend money to recover from that. And there is nothing wrong with that. We didn't create. We didn't create the problem -- I mean the hurricane coming. That was an act -- a natural disaster. Just knowing that it is another thing we are having to spend money on, that does sort of hamper the continuation of the project. And, you know, that's okay. So I do appreciate both of you all. I know we are really excited of the new project going in to help our water even more. But also to figure out what we are going to do. And Mr. Weiss, you and I talked of ways to improve the wastewater as well. As we discharge, we are charging less stuff. I am looking forward to how we continue to -- to clean. I know the six wasn't as successful there, but we are looking at that next, I know we are always on the cutting edge of this sort of technology. So I look forward to seeing what we come up with that we can continue to decrease what is left over.
Lynn Hurtak
02:24:27PM
Wonderful. I look forward to that. Thank you, both, so much. Councilman Carlson.
Bill Carlson
02:24:31PM
Just one quick follow-up. I was at a conference the last few days where the cfo was presenting, and they are taking a very superficial look at cities and counties and they are going to come through. More we can communicate along what my colleague was saying. Communicate with the public even if the costs are increasing and even if the numbers don't look that great compared to the original, we need to set expectations in the communities because one of the biggest complaints I get beside property taxes, why are my water rates so high. It is helpful to be able to show what the costs are and what these fees are going forward. And if it is not able to cover everything we originally were proposing in the $2.9 billion. We need to educate people to know this is coming. Otherwise the state may come in and say you guys are wasting money and going over budget. And we are going to cut it.
Alan Clendenin
02:25:27PM
Thank you very much. Hearing no other questions, thank you very much for presentation. Always interesting. 69.
Andrea Zelman
02:25:35PM
Hello, Andrea Zelman, city attorney, and I have with Me Abbye Feeley, who needs no introduction. Just quickly, discussion about pickleball, and I know you all are tired of hearing about this, but right now, we still have the issue in this state of Senate bill 180, which was the bill passed in the last legislative session that prevents us from adopting land development regulations that are more burdensome and restrictive than what is currently on the books. Of course, currently on the books we don't have anything regarding pickleball, anything that we were to add would most likely run right into Senate bill 180. and you asked me to look at other jurisdictions, and I did, and what I found is that in most jurisdictions that have any sort of regulations for pickleball, it is things like distance between the court and the next structure and setbacks, lighting, hours that people can play, things like that. What I didn't find was anything adopted since Senate bill 180 about the exception of, you heard it this morning, Hillsborough County is talking about -- or is in the process, I should say, of adopting a regulation. Let me say a couple of things for clarification about that. First of all, we are talking apples and oranges, because what triggered it in Hillsborough County was within a large master plan community, the -- the developer or the homeowner's association or whatever it is proposing to convert some tennis courts into pickleball courts and neighbors who live nearby have asked for relief. So -- but we have talked to -- both abbye and I talked to the zoning administrator in Hillsborough County and they haven't seen what people. Hearing more of, people putting pickleball courts in their own backyards. They simply don't have that kind of thing hang in Hillsborough County. If you think of their pattern of development versus ours, you can see why it really isn't an issue there. I want to note that they were told -- Hillsborough County commissioners, that is, were told by their legal department that they really shouldn't think about adopting a new land development regulation now because of Senate bill 180 and they decided to go ahead. They asked their legal department to ask the state attorney general for an opinion, an advisory opinion, or a legal opinion on this. And they are going to do that. But, you know, again, I don't want to say they acted against their advice of counsel, but advised that doing a land development regulation would run afoul of Senate bill 180. more to that point. Senate bill 180 generated number of actions. Several ongoing lawsuits by cities and counties and the thousand friends of Florida about legislation. Also lawsuits in other jurisdictions by home builders and property owners suing cities and counties that violated Senate bill 180. and then finally, and this was the course that we have chosen to go. We have been working with the cities, state lobbyists and I know Florida league of cities is actively doing this as are many other jurisdictions. We are trying to get the legislature to do a glitch bill and take a statute. Clear in my mind, their intent was to respond to things that might have prevented people from rebuilding after a hurricane, but they caught a lot of extra tuna in that net or whales in tuna net whatever that metaphor I was looking for like our ybor parking regulations. We are hoping that there will be a legislative fix, but my concern -- and I know I get accused of being risk-adverse, but that kind of my job, to keep the city from getting into legal trouble. My suggestion is we not move forward at this point in time with anything new until we see a few things. What kind of answer Hillsborough County gets from the attorney general. Whether any of this litigation results in positive results and or whether the legislature will simply agree to fix the bill. So with that, I am happy to take questions.
Alan Clendenin
02:31:12PM
I have a question. So our residential property. We don't have anything within our current land use laws to prevent somebody from building a pickleball court? The nets, the size of the posts, the -- all these things? Surely there is --
Andrea Zelman
02:31:31PM
This is why I needed abbye.
Abbye Feeley
02:31:36PM
Good afternoon, Abbye Feeley. Setbacks are for structures. Structures anything over 36 inches in height. So from resi to resi, not a quote, unquote, buffer. If there is lighting.
Alan Clendenin
02:31:51PM
A pole is over 36 inches.
Abbye Feeley
02:31:54PM
Set back three foot off the property line.
Alan Clendenin
02:31:58PM
That's it?
Abbye Feeley
02:32:01PM
I mean, historically this has been and we have throughout the city, tennis courts in people's backyards. And that -- as you know we will talk of our land development code. Our land development code doesn't even say the word "pickleball" from 1988 to now. Nothing to stop somebody from putting a basketball court in their front yard. A basketball net on a typical driveway and somebody playing basketball until 11:00 or 12:00 at night. What we do have is we have a noise ordinance, and that noise ordinance speaks to plainly audible sound you can hear after certain periods of time. And that needs to be enforced. One thing I continually say in a lot of your land development hearings and things is that the zoning department is not going out at 11:00 when somebody is playing pickleball. That is a land development regulation and we have to be mindful of what we are regulating and how we are regulating it. And that is a lot of time when different alcohol applications come or a zoning and somebody says to you and says, you know, I am a psychiatrist and our code said "medical office" doesn't say for a psychiatrist office. Now it is not a psychiatrist. We think of these things and think of the adverse impacts associated with them, we need to think of what those regulation also look like and feel like and ultimately how they will be implemented or enforced.
Alan Clendenin
02:33:36PM
Thing was Hillsborough County, right.
Abbye Feeley
02:33:49PM
Outdoor community --
Alan Clendenin
02:33:52PM
What if it was private? Wanted to build a private target range in my back yard, could somebody do that?
Abbye Feeley
02:33:58PM
We -- in the city?
Alan Clendenin
02:34:00PM
Yeah.
Abbye Feeley
02:34:02PM
Right now, the code is quiet, but I would refer to atf on that. That is a hard question. I don't think that is one that has been asked in my 25 years. [laughter]
Alan Clendenin
02:34:17PM
I mean, it just shows you the unintended consequences of things, omissions. Everybody will look for the weak spot, right. It is interesting. Your point about basketball courts is well taken. I know that is san obnoxious noise too. Bump, bump, bump. You know.
Abbye Feeley
02:34:36PM
Did you have anything else you wanted to add? I think one of the things we run into is even in our largest lots, with side yard of seven foot or the accessory uses and accessory structures that three foot -- I know we spoke as Andrea mentioned, we spoke with Adam Gormley this morning, but really what the county is facing is that you have a lot of more traditional subdivisions that have community tracks that are in them. And there are plats that are their clubhouse and other recreation. And you have those things configured in a way that there are houses near them. And then there are houses further in the subdivision. For us, we don't have a lot of typical subdivisions. I am not saying we don't have any. New tampa has a lot.
Alan Clendenin
02:35:30PM
Council member Viera would disagree with that point.
Abbye Feeley
02:35:34PM
But in our urban area, outside of areas like gulfview and Palma Ceia where pour larger rs-100 and rs-150 lots. 100 x 100 or 100 x 150 minimum. That's where you are seeing more of these because you have the additional space in order to be able to accommodate them. In our more traditional 50 x 160 lot, that is not what is happening. What is in the books as far as noise ordinance and that enforcement is the place to start. If people are hearing them, they want -- but I think I already said too much.
Alan Clendenin
02:36:20PM
Councilman Carlson, you want to say something?
Bill Carlson
02:36:23PM
Yeah. I -- I don't know -- stop me if we are not allowed to talk of specific cases, but in general, if somebody has a pd -- this was mentioned this morning. Somebody has a pd and doesn't specifically show pickleball, can they go back and put pickleball on it?
Abbye Feeley
02:36:44PM
I will speak in generalities if I may, at the moment. The use we have currently in the code, which is in multiple locations throughout the city. One in Ybor City, the pickleball, right. It is called recreation facility commercial, and that is indoor or outdoor. And the definition does not say -- it does not limit the activities that may occur there. So if you got that use, and you have legally established it, I don't know it would prohibit you from changing out one use for another use.
Bill Carlson
02:37:22PM
What the argument of permeable space?
Abbye Feeley
02:37:28PM
Oh, I am glad you mentioned that. Thank you for that question. So when people are coming in -- in the city of tampa, if you are paving more than 150 square feet. Even if it is as shed, you must pull a permit. And that permit we do check for the stormwater requirements. So those are being checked and we do have many of these courts that are on single-family residential that I did do a quick sampling of, and they do have permits. I can't say all of them, because I did not check up on all of them, but several in now.
Alan Clendenin
02:38:04PM
At least we have one thing.
Bill Carlson
02:38:08PM
My general philosophy that I don't think -- there is private property rights argument that people should be a able to do whatever they want. But when the sound intrudes on other people and they can't sleep, that is when I think -- you have to be considerate. The -- and so that gets into noise. You kind of mentioned this earlier, but if -- whatever facility, basketball, tennis, pickleball. If somebody is playing at 1:00 in morning, will you just tell people what the rules are about sound and what they can do about it if there is as loud noise.
Abbye Feeley
02:38:43PM
Let me pull that up so I can quote it properly. And it would be to call the nonemergency line for Tampa Police Department. Fabulous.
Bill Carlson
02:38:53PM
Let me say while they are looking that up. If we find a way to regulate this, I would support regulating it. The meantime, anything we can to to prevent people from being up all night.
Alan Clendenin
02:39:08PM
What kind of person is playing pickleball after 11:00 --
Bill Carlson
02:39:12PM
Can I say for disclosure, my son is the co-founder of plant high pickleball team, and I have this argument with him every day.
Alan Clendenin
02:39:21PM
Oh, wow. I will say also for disclosure, I never, ever, ever thought I would -- when I got elected spent so much time talking or thinking about pickleball. How many times people have come -- whether tennis players are mad about pickleball -- courts being converted. It's crazy. Just crazy.
Andrea Zelman
02:39:43PM
Anecdotally, he heard recently that they have come up with a paddle that is less loud. I guess that is part of problem with the pickleball paddles, is when the ball hits it, it is a louder sound than when a tennis racket hits a tennis ball.
Bill Carlson
02:39:59PM
Offer those for free like we do bicycle lights.
Andrea Zelman
02:40:06PM
Right.
Lynn Hurtak
02:40:07PM
Paddles are very expensive.
Alan Clendenin
02:40:11PM
I never played pickleball, I don't know.
Lynn Hurtak
02:40:13PM
Just anecdotally.
Abbye Feeley
02:40:15PM
Section 14-154, unlawful for any person to permit, cause, allow, create, emit or sustain uh-uh reasonably excessive noise from a property including airspace thereof located in the city of tampa and not in the area described in 14-153, which are the exceptions. And it says unreasonably excessive noise from a property means sound from any property not within the areas described in 153, which is unreasonably loud and raucous as defined in this section. And then it gives the definition of that to mean any sound which because of its volume level or duration jars, injuries or endanger the health, safety, welfare or well being of a reasonable individual or ordinary sensibilities.
Bill Carlson
02:41:12PM
You say they should call the nonemergency police number. Is that written down somewhere?
Abbye Feeley
02:41:18PM
I can pull it up on my phone.
Bill Carlson
02:41:20PM
Sorry to ask all these questions but this is what we will be asked when we leave.
Abbye Feeley
02:41:32PM
813-231-6130 you asked another -- the other thing I was going to mention. You may recall this and we had this with a crossfit gym located in Channelside and go out at 6 a.m. to do the crossfit and flip the tires and people could hear the tire sounds. And so there are numbers of activities that spur this time of, you know, type of complaint. And I think that is where we manage to handle.
Bill Carlson
02:42:08PM
Remember the skateboard parks. That was another one.
Alan Clendenin
02:42:11PM
I am going to go on record. I don't care what you do in your house, but I don't want to see people exercising at 6:00 in the morning. I find that completely objectionable.
Abbye Feeley
02:42:22PM
Me too.
Bill Carlson
02:42:23PM
Are you awake at 6:00?
Alan Clendenin
02:42:25PM
You better not wake me up --
Lynn Hurtak
02:42:28PM
My dog likes to be out at 6:00 in the morning. I am exercising.
Alan Clendenin
02:42:33PM
Councilwoman Hurtak, you want to say something.
Lynn Hurtak
02:42:36PM
I want to thank you for bringing this discussion. We are kind of stuck right now, but I appreciate the ability to regulate what we can regulate and hopefully will have some sort of answer whether it be through legislature or through lawsuit. So I do anticipate -- because -- just because we can't stop people from doing things on private property doesn't mean it is okay. So I do expect that to change to some degree. But the meantime, not only should you call police nonemergency if you have a problem. Call your -- call your state legislature legislator. That is only way I can -- I can encourage people to make sure that if they want these laws changed, you really are going to have to reach out to the state legislative body who makes these laws. I encourage people to reach out to their house and Senate member and have their opinions known.
Alan Clendenin
02:43:37PM
I second that.
Andrea Zelman
02:43:39PM
I want to reiterate we are not just throwing up our hands Senate bill 180, we can't do anything. We are actively looking for ways to get this resolved. Again, working with our lobbyists, working with other organizations that are trying to get the bill fixed and also monitoring all the litigation. And then, as I mentioned, the fact that Hillsborough County is going to be asking for an attorney general's opinion. That will be something that we can watch for as well. Had.
Lynn Hurtak
02:44:09PM
Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
02:44:09PM
I'm happy to report we have reached our last item. Abbye Feeley, item 70.
Abbye Feeley
02:44:17PM
Thank you very much. Abbye Feeey, administrator of economic and land development opportunity. I'm here for the land development code report I give you each month. Coming into this morning, I had the report written a little bit different and talk you with and get your feedback on a couple of things. Melissa Zornitta reported on the comp plan. What is going on. What is going on with public engagement. When it is coming back. What is going on in the year and what is going on. Want to be mindful of the public's engagement on both of these efforts which is so huge. And our goal was to originally with the -- with the time frame for the code was to have the public installment going up in november. And with the consultant over the last few weeks, we spoke and were targeting putting it out january 20, which is right after the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday. And hearing Melissa this morning, it seems like she is right on that time frame also. Sob I don't want -- and let me side bar for one moment on that. Clearly I am million to following my notes. Let me side bar on that, because the transit-ready corridors play into the land development code. Some of the other matters that they are looking at in terms of sb 180 and not just to be labor this again, we are talking about this also with the code. Do we set out two different versions. One that is okay. And one that is not. Do we set up one version that we take that through and get ready to have an effective date of the october date when Sb 180 expires. So that we get ready -- typically when you do major code updates or modernizations, you do get the adoption and you leave a period of four to six months to gear things up. Train the staff and get everything effective when that date happens. Typically doesn't become effective the day you adopt it. With that being said, I am -- I would love to hear some thoughts from you steered away from december 8 because it was going into the holidays. This is going to be a large document that will need time and public outreach, but I don't want the public to be torn between taking care of and finishing their efforts with the camp plan and getting engaged with the land development code. So I can -- my goal today was to tell you, we have done the first -- first installment came in. It came in two pieces. First piece we have given comments on. And we are having follow-up meetings on alcoholic beverage, animals. That came up. And also accessory uses and structures. So those three additional conversations are being scheduled right now while we are looking at the second part of the first installment that first came in last week. So -- and one of the things I told you last month was, it is very hard to put those out, because they are in very preliminary form and we don't want then running off thinking this is what it is. Some it is critical that we have those discussions close out those open matters and have a robust engagement. A huge undertaking and it is important to get it right. So that is kind of where we are. I don't want to delay, but I want to ensure that everything is working together. So after Melissa's presentation this morning, I asked her -- I said are you going to put this on the web site mid-january getting public feedback and have public meetings. Heard Councilwoman Hurtak said she would lead some of those other discussions. I just had a call we haven as I ran back over here to say, let's make sure there are is all aligning. And we need to know what is going to come out of the camp plan to ensure we are on track for the land development code. I know that was a lot, but --
Alan Clendenin
02:48:56PM
Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
02:48:57PM
So I appreciate it. We are all in just a tough spot. There is just no way around that. So personally, my recommendation would be after we pass comp plan -- or as much as we can. Which will be -- I mean, talking to the planning commission, it is going to be things that we know will be okay. Some of these transit-ready door. Some of these areas where we want to incentivize development that will be more than what we are giving now. So we know they will be okay to go through. I don't see a reason why we couldn't put out a draft of that after mid-february. And give people a -- a week or so to -- to be done with the comp plan. And then move forward because there are two things. Yes, we are delaying, but on the bright side, they are there are going to be in looking at development mode. So you are going from the comp plan, we is a broader view to land development code, which is more specific. And I think that, again, having reached out, having those communications with folks against about the camp plan-set people up in a good place. One month in government time is not that much, and it also allows you and your team to make sure it is as good as it can be. The other thing I would recommend similar to the planning commission when looking at things, what we currently under sb 180, just the two piles, what we know we can get through now, what may or may not be able to get through now, because here is the thick -- the thing. We may just as soon as have the conservation now. Public have been through it. If we are going to do the public conversation, let's get it done. That is my recommendation.
Alan Clendenin
02:51:00PM
I agree. Anyone else? Council member Maniscalco.
Guido Maniscalco
02:51:04PM
It is not delay. It is so much information between -- between the land development code, the comprehensive plan. It's -- it's historically huge. This is going to be transformational for the next generation. It is not just -- we delay -- in government time, what -- what is a month, you know. And it is after the holidays. People can take a breather. But at the same time, people's mind will be set on what we have with -- you know, with the comprehensive plan, the chart that was given to us this morning. We are already thinking about it. They go right into this. But at the same time, it is such a minor push back, minor delay that I am good with that. It is a good timeline and allows the community to digest it, to read it. No accusations of this was just sprung on us. Plenty of time for people to really look into this. I agree with that.
Alan Clendenin
02:52:08PM
Thank you for presentation.
Abbye Feeley
02:52:10PM
Thank you.
Alan Clendenin
02:52:12PM
That concludes our agenda items. Time for -- well, we do. But wait, there's more. Time for new business. Councilman Carlson.
Bill Carlson
02:52:21PM
Yeah, just need to make a motion to receive and file my form b for item 22 earlier.
Alan Clendenin
02:52:31PM
Motion from Councilman Carlson and seconded by council member Viera. All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Ayes have it unanimously. That was it? Council member Viera.
Luis Viera
02:52:41PM
Yes, sir, I move to waive -- long story short before I read this. I will be suggesting to city council that we give commendations next evening -- next week at 5 p.m. it will require a waiver of the rules because something we probably have to do in the evening to get as many people here as possible. This will -- if I get credit for making these commendations will bring my total commendations up to 2634 being on city council. No, I am joking.
Alan Clendenin
02:53:11PM
Probably more than 2600, because I think -- don't cut yourself short.
Bill Carlson
02:53:18PM
You are talking about just this year, right?
Luis Viera
02:53:21PM
I know. I make no apologies, damn it.
Alan Clendenin
02:53:24PM
How many commendations have I made.
Lynn Hurtak
02:53:27PM
One.
Luis Viera
02:53:29PM
Give yourself time. Commendation gods will rule you. I waive the rights to have the members of the racial reconciliation committee at the start of the meeting given the meeting schedule, limit the presentation to ten minutes and further would like a motion to receive and file the summary reports from the facilitator.
Guido Maniscalco
02:53:56PM
Second.
Alan Clendenin
02:53:57PM
Motion by council member Viera. Seconded by council member Maniscalco. Did you want to say anything about it?
Lynn Hurtak
02:54:05PM
There was a conversation about this earlier and I wanted to wait until new business to talk about this. I do -- I don't disagree with the public and members of the committee who said this isn't fair. This isn't right. I think that some of their suggestions about rolling this into other things. Looking at it from a economic perspective are all very good. And so I don't see why we can't take this and do what they have said. So I am really looking forward to going through you this report. And also, you know, hopefully having a chance to hear from them. Is that would be -- that be will be really -- again, I really look forward to that and I look forward to seeing how morph into part of what we do as a city.
Alan Clendenin
02:54:52PM
A motion and a second -- Councilman Carlson.
Bill Carlson
02:54:57PM
If -- if one of more of them say I would like to say something, it could end up being like a 30- or 45-minute thing. I also can't say they can't say something. We can decide in advance we would give them a minute each or something. I am just throwing -- because we can't talk outside of this room.
Alan Clendenin
02:55:19PM
It is a very long night.
Lynn Hurtak
02:55:23PM
A long, long night.
Alan Clendenin
02:55:26PM
What is it, the last week?
Guido Maniscalco
02:55:30PM
It is not horrible.
Alan Clendenin
02:55:36PM
If you want to do it, it is up to you.
Bill Carlson
02:55:38PM
Throw it out so we can think.
Luis Viera
02:55:44PM
What we could do -- we were go to have -- prior, we were going to to have a very exception at 4:30 p.m. in the sister cities room. Perhaps council, we can begin at 4:45, have the reception at 4:15 -- because council member Carlson is right. We are not going to cut people off especially on this because what happened was terrible and wrong. So how could we do that?
Martin Shelby
02:56:14PM
The official meeting of city council the evening notice has been posted at 5:01. It is not in two weeks, but next week.
Luis Viera
02:56:29PM
What a shame. I'm fine with it moving 20 minutes. We do the best we can. I would suggest in an evening meeting.
Alan Clendenin
02:56:37PM
Talking of the 16th?
Luis Viera
02:56:40PM
Yes, sir.
Alan Clendenin
02:56:41PM
What am I missing.
Martin Shelby
02:56:43PM
Eight items it looks like.
Alan Clendenin
02:56:48PM
October 16.
Lynn Hurtak
02:56:50PM
You said 18 items?
Martin Shelby
02:56:55PM
Eight items.
Lynn Hurtak
02:56:57PM
That works.
Luis Viera
02:57:00PM
If I may, it may run a little bit. Want to say what Councilwoman Hurtak said, I totally agree, like I said, I would have no problem with some sort of an economic opportunity committee or something of that nay you are in -- nature, some of this I think so we are doing like the returning citizens things. So whatever.
Alan Clendenin
02:57:22PM
I'm looking like -- I have two items on it.
Lynn Hurtak
02:57:36PM
Says two and -- it says -- it doesn't list them. Okay says continue to the hearing --
Alan Clendenin
02:57:48PM
They didn't print out what it was. Got it. A motion and a second. All in favor, say aye.
Martin Shelby
02:57:53PM
Wait --
Alan Clendenin
02:57:54PM
But wait, there is more.
Martin Shelby
02:57:56PM
Martin Shelby, city council attorney. I wanted it to be clear for the record and for the public and for council to be aware that what you have received is a summary report by the -- by The Usf Institute of Government.
Alan Clendenin
02:58:13PM
Facilitator.
Martin Shelby
02:58:15PM
The facilitator. This is not a final report. This is not a report or adopted by the committee. Now that the committee has been officially dissolved. They have the ability to talk amongst themselves about this wouldn't the sunshine law. But I want you to know for the purposes of receiving and filing, the -- I want to read from council's rules and procedures so you know. Action of receiving and filing documents from The City Council should not in any way be construed to constitute concurrence or endorsement of city council of the matter being received and filed. I want that to be clear that council is not adopting it and receiving and filing it because not the final report of the committee.
Alan Clendenin
02:59:01PM
I hope we understand that with everything we receive and file.
Martin Shelby
02:59:05PM
Absolutely true.
Alan Clendenin
02:59:06PM
Something that crosses your desk. We receive and file stuff all the time.
Martin Shelby
02:59:11PM
Glad you mentioned that and council's rules of the act of receiving and filing it.
Alan Clendenin
02:59:16PM
Not an endorsement or sentence or endorsement of fact.
Martin Shelby
02:59:22PM
Clear in your rules.
Alan Clendenin
02:59:24PM
We have the motion and the second. All in favor, say aye. Opposed say no -- nay. Just kidding. The Ayes have it unanimously.
Luis Viera
02:59:36PM
If I may, one last one. I don't know y'all saw the video and the HART bus operator Barbara Baker. Yeah, she -- she was wonderful. She helped unite a lost child with the family. I want to give her a council commendation. Anybody is welcome to come if you want to come for that.
Alan Clendenin
02:59:52PM
A motion from council member Viera. Seconded from council member Maniscalco. All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Ayes have it unanimously. Councilwoman Hurtak.
Lynn Hurtak
03:00:01PM
Okay. During the september 25, 2025 workshop, we were informed that code enforcement was no longer enforcing ordinance number 2024-9 related to new rules of ybor parking lots due to Section 28 of Sb-180 rendering the position of ordinance and void. I move to discontinue the future monthly bimonthly reports on parking compliance.
Guido Maniscalco
03:00:31PM
Second.
Lynn Hurtak
03:00:32PM
The update was scheduled for november 4, 2025.
Alan Clendenin
03:00:36PM
Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Seconded from council member Maniscalco. All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Ayes have it.
Lynn Hurtak
03:00:42PM
And we had a brief update from parks about the summer youth program. But I move to have staff present an in-person staff report on january 8, 2026 on the 2025 summer youth program. I would like the report to include things that were successful, areas for improvement, opportunities for growth, things that did not work, plans for the 2026 program and how we can add more young people to the program. I cleared this with parks.
Alan Clendenin
03:01:19PM
A motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Seconded from council member Maniscalco. All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Ayes have it unanimously.
Lynn Hurtak
03:01:27PM
I have something that I want to throw by council that I just thought of. When we are looking at leftover funds from 2025, possibly putting some money in summer youth program to allow for those more students that the community has been asking for. Because -- it won't be that much money. So I am just going to throw that idea out there.
Alan Clendenin
03:01:49PM
It is in the atmosphere.
Lynn Hurtak
03:01:50PM
There is that.
Alan Clendenin
03:01:52PM
Is that it.
Lynn Hurtak
03:01:56PM
Yes.
Alan Clendenin
03:01:57PM
Council member Maniscalco.
Guido Maniscalco
03:01:59PM
Thank you very much. Add to the october 23, 2025, a closed session to be held on october 23, 2025 at 11 a.m. in the 2th floor conference room of old city hall at 315 east kennedy boulevard to discuss the settlement negotiations of the case of hodges versus city of Tampa et al with the following person in attending with closed session, members of City Council, city council attorney Martin Shelby, Andrea Zelman, David Marvey and a certified court reporter, Valerie Westfall.
Alan Clendenin
03:02:34PM
A motion from council member Maniscalco. A second from Councilwoman Hurtak. All in favor, say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously. Thank you so much.
Guido Maniscalco
03:02:43PM
Charlie?
Alan Clendenin
03:02:48PM
Councilwoman Hurtak, you have something else.
Lynn Hurtak
03:02:50PM
I have one more thing. I want to remind everybody under written reports that we got, we got the responses from the status of the city's working -- -- or rather 74-76, the scope of review for the charter, the structural changes, coin of the strike-through language and list of recommended changes for the city. They were in written reports today. Make sure read them, print them out between now, and two weeks from now when we have our discussion.
Alan Clendenin
03:03:19PM
I already submitted my suggestions months ago.
Lynn Hurtak
03:03:22PM
Just saying.
Alan Clendenin
03:03:24PM
Hold own, the lawyer wants to speak again.
Martin Shelby
03:03:28PM
Martin Shelby. City Council attorney. I have been informed by the deputy city clerk that is the request is to make council member Viera's motion into two separate motions. You had motion for commendations and one motion of filing of the report. Recommendation of the clerk to have them as two separate motions.
Luis Viera
03:03:48PM
Mr. Chairman, I move to make a motion to file the summary report that we received earlier today by e-mail.
Alan Clendenin
03:03:56PM
A motion from council member Viera. Seconded from council member Maniscalco to file the summary report from the racial reconciliation committee facilitators. All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Ayes have it unanimously.
Luis Viera
03:04:12PM
Members of the racial reconciliation committee to come for the brief aforementioned presentation at 5 p.m.
Alan Clendenin
03:04:20PM
Motion from council member Viera. Seconded from council member Maniscalco. All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Ayes have it. A motion to receive and feel from council member Maniscalco. Seconded from council member Viera. All in favor, say aye. Opposed, the Ayes have it. We are adjourned, and we will see you all in one week. Disclaimer: this file represents an unedited version of realtime captioning which should neither be relied upon for complete accuracy nor used as a verbatim transcript. Any person who needs a verbatim transcript of the proceedings may need to hire a court reporter. © - City of tampa (813) 274-8211