Tampa City Council - February 05, 2026 - Tampa City Council Transcripts

Lynn Hurtak 9:15:50AM

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Tampa City Council. I am filling in for Chair Clendenin today. Council member Carlson, you have the invocation. After he introduces the invocation, if we could stay standing for the pledge of allegiance.

Bill Carlson 9:16:08AM

Great. Thank you. I Have Ct harris here this morning who we all know. But for the public, ill go through a short bio. Her daughter is behind her also. Ct is an accomplished entrepreneur, podcast host, professional communicator and motivational speaker. Ct has built a reputation as a catalyst for change across industries. Her work is grounded in authentic engagement, bold thinking, and a relentless pursuit of solutions that uplift communities and create opportunity. As director of communication, connections and outreach for a local nonprofit, Ct continues to lead with heart and purpose, amplifying voices, forging strong relationships and creating pathways for lasting impact. With over 20 years of experience spanning entrepreneurship, public service, and strategic communications, Ct brings a unique ability to connect with people, ideas, and Resources To Drive meaningful change. Her career in public service began as a legislative aide to Tampa City Council district five where she helped champion inclusive initiatives and rally behind equality and humanity. Her success in that role Paved The Way for her historical appointment as the City Of Tampa's first small business navigator, an achievement that reflects her deep commitment to economic equity and innovation. And ill speak for myself, probably others who were here, we miss your positive energy where you light up the room wherever you go. Thank you for coming this morning. Everybody, please stand and stay standing for the pledge. Thank you, Council Member Carlson, and your amazing aide. Please bow your heads. Dear heavenly eternal Father, we come before you with grateful hearts. Thank you for the City Of Tampa and to every person who has been entrusted with leadership in this city. Thank you to the Tampa City Council for their willingness to serve and for the responsibility they carry on behalf of this city and its citizens. We are grateful for the progress that has already been made for growth, opportunity, and the steady work that has strengthened this community. We acknowledge that every good step forward is made possible by the wisdom, intellect and perseverance you provide. We ask that this same clarity of mind, discernment and vision continue to guide every decision made here today. Lord, we pray for the restoration of humanity and leadership, help US remember that behind every policy, every vote and every debate are real people, real families, and real neighborhoods, and future generations. Give our leaders the courage to look beyond party lines and personal interests and the humility to listen with open hearts. May decisions be rooted in justice, compassion and a shared commitment to the greater good. May this council lead with integrity, unity, and bold hope, choosing what builds, heals, lifts the entire city. God, we ask that you bless Tampa, bless its leaders and bless all who call this city home. I decree and declare today is another day of answered Prayer. In your darling son Jesus name we pray. Amen. [Pledge of allegiance]

Lynn Hurtak 9:19:31AM

Thank you so much. Okay. Council Member Viera will be a little bit late. There is a bad accident on the interstate. So roll call, please.

Charlie Miranda 9:19:43AM

Here.

Guido Maniscalco 9:19:43AM

Here.

Lynn Hurtak 9:19:45AM

Here.

Naya Young 9:19:46AM

Here.

Bill Carlson 9:19:47AM

Here.

The Clerk 9:19:50AM

We have a quorum.

Lynn Hurtak 9:19:51AM

Thank you so much. Can I get a motion for adoption of the minutes for January 22nd and the workshop and the evening sessions held on January 29? I have a motion from Councilman Miranda. Seconded by Councilman Maniscalco. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? We are going to go straight into the approval of the agenda. We have a walk-on ordinance. Is anyone speaking on that or will we go ahead and walk IT on? If so, I need a motion.

Guido Maniscalco 9:20:25AM

[Inaudible]

Lynn Hurtak 9:20:30AM

I have -- IT will be on for first reading.

Martin Shelby 9:20:39AM

Do you want to put IT on first reading?

Lynn Hurtak 9:20:42AM

Yeah, We can put IT under first readings.

Guido Maniscalco 9:20:44AM

[Inaudible] -- under first reading.

Martin Shelby 9:20:52AM

If I can, I dont believe -- lets see where that would be. IT would be prior to item number 40.

Lynn Hurtak 9:20:59AM

Yes. This is the walk-on. Its after 39.

Martin Shelby 9:21:03AM

Yes, yes. Was there a vote on that?

Guido Maniscalco 9:21:08AM

So moved.

Lynn Hurtak 9:21:09AM

I have a motion from Council Member Maniscalco. A second from Council Member Carlson. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. There is a memo from my office requesting a continuance for item number 1 at the request of ATU, can --

Guido Maniscalco 9:21:31AM

Motion to continue the ATU Employee of the month to May 7, 2026 under presentations and commendations.

Lynn Hurtak 9:21:37AM

I have a motion from council member Maniscalco. I heard a second from Councilwoman Young. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

Guido Maniscalco 9:21:44AM

A motion to continue item number 2, request from my office for Feeding Tampa Bay. This is going to be rescheduled for a later date to be determined.

Lynn Hurtak 9:21:53AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. We need to move to item 31. Due to the amount of money, this needs to be moved under staff reports. I recommend putting IT right after administrative update.

Guido Maniscalco 9:22:13AM

Move item 31 to follow immediately after the administrative update.

Lynn Hurtak 9:22:17AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. We have item number 48 was misnoticed.

Guido Maniscalco 9:22:27AM

We have to wait until 10:30.

Lynn Hurtak 9:22:29AM

I was told, no.

Martin Shelby 9:22:31AM

You can take IT now. Cant hear IT at 10:30. Might as well remove IT from the agenda. Mr. Michelini represents. The date is May 7 of 2026, to renotice. Remove from agenda and renotice, please.

Steve Michelini 9:22:47AM

We, We are respectfully requesting the May 7 date for a new hearing.

Lynn Hurtak 9:22:52AM

If your motion could include renoticing.

Guido Maniscalco 9:22:54AM

Move to continue item 48 to --

Martin Shelby 9:23:00AM

Because this is a misnotice, IT has to be removed from the agenda and rescheduled --

Guido Maniscalco 9:23:05AM

Move to remove item 48 and IT will be rescheduled at a later date.

Lynn Hurtak 9:23:09AM

Two separate motions.

Martin Shelby 9:23:11AM

No, one motion, same date. The motion should be to remove IT from the agenda and reschedule IT to be reset for May 7, 2026 at 1:30.

10 9:23:28AM

30.

Martin Shelby 9:23:29AM

1030.

Guido Maniscalco 9:23:31AM

I have a motion to remove item number 49 from todays --

Lynn Hurtak 9:23:35AM

48 VAC 25-10.

Guido Maniscalco 9:23:40AM

I have a motion to remove item 48, VAC 25-10 from todays agenda and then have IT reset for May 7 under 10:30 am., Including renoticing.

Lynn Hurtak 9:23:53AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye.

Steve Michelini 9:24:02AM

Thank you, Council.

Lynn Hurtak 9:24:03AM

Moving on to staff reports. We have an administrative update from director Ted Fowler on the city park piers. So that will go on. Is staff needed for item 51?

Guido Maniscalco 9:24:26AM

No. You had continued that, didnt You, or no? The old library building on 7th, right?

Lynn Hurtak 9:24:36AM

Yes. IT has been -- im sorry, Councilwoman young, would you like to speak to that?

Naya Young 9:24:43AM

Sure. They came to an agreement, three-year term for the contract, IT is two years, and then They put a clause in there that either side with a 270-day notice can terminate the agreement. And then also They put into the agreement that City Of Tampa can go in and make any repairs and assessments while They are working, as long as IT doesnt disrupt what They are doing.

Guido Maniscalco 9:25:13AM

Thats fine.

Martin Shelby 9:25:16AM

Madam Chair, that will be no staff needed and IT will be taken up after the consent docket.

Lynn Hurtak 9:25:22AM

Correct.

Martin Shelby 9:25:23AM

Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 9:25:24AM

Going back to item 31, do we need Staff for that? The large amount, but do we need Staff?

Bill Carlson 9:25:38AM

Can I say one thing on 51? Were not allowed to talk to each other. The big proposal last year was move USF Graphics Studios in there, and there was a whole movement where money was raised and then IT got stopped somewhere. So that would be a transformational project for the whole area and provide grassroots artists places to leverage off the expertise of graphics. You May know that already, just in case you didnt. I know the community is coming up with ideas, too. But that is an idea that could really help transform the whole area.

Lynn Hurtak 9:26:19AM

Thank you, anyone else. Item 52, do we need staff?

Lynn Hurtak 9:26:24AM

Okay.

Martin Shelby 9:26:28AM

Staff is monitoring this, if you could announce after consensus, no Staff or Staff.

Lynn Hurtak 9:26:32AM

Well, at the end -- thats fine.

Martin Shelby 9:26:35AM

As you go along because they are following.

Lynn Hurtak 9:26:37AM

Item 31 no Staff, 51 no Staff, 52 no Staff. Item number 53.

Bill Carlson 9:26:44AM

Yes, I dont find the written report to be acceptable, so I want to discuss them. Really, we could probably ask Marty, but if somebody from Legal wants to be here, the question is, what can we do to restrict what is done to shut down the roads in downtown because what they are doing isnt working.

Lynn Hurtak 9:27:05AM

Im assuming that also applies to 54.

Bill Carlson 9:27:08AM

Yeah.

Lynn Hurtak 9:27:09AM

53 and 54 we do want Staff. Ill tell Staff right now, you should be prepared to come before lunch. Because -- or pop up however you want to do IT because I think well get through some things. What about 55? Councilman Viera, that is a verbal report. Well say yes, we do want Staff for that. Item 56. That is a written response. I will leave IT to say yes -- yeah, we might as well do 56 as well. 57, those all kind of go together. So Staff, yes for 55, 56, and 57. 58 yes. I would like to move that discussion to the very end after item number 60 so that we can get the rest of our agenda done.

Bill Carlson 9:28:07AM

Can I make one comment? We got bombarded with e-mails. I think last week We were saying We didnt want to get bombarded by e-mails but We did on a lot of different topics. I think just for people who might be sitting around all day wondering if their organization is going to get funded, I think that We have the Social Action Fund coming up in the next couple of weeks in a separate conversation.

Lynn Hurtak 9:28:30AM

No. And thats talking about 2027. Thats not talking about now. Thats a May workshop, April or May.

Bill Carlson 9:28:38AM

The question is, what I was going to propose is that we talk about the budget surplus, talk about where we move buckets. If we decide to fund something other than a city project, that we would recommend moving a set dollar amount to the Social Action Fund and then we would have a separate discussion within the Social Action Fund about how to spend the money. I thought we had some kind of event in March to talk about IT.

Lynn Hurtak 9:29:03AM

No. Thats to talk about the 2027 budget. We can definitely talk about that during item 58. I think that is a good idea.

Bill Carlson 9:29:11AM

But my point is that if there is an individual nonprofit out here, ideally, we would have the Social Action Fund discussion on its own separate from -- the discussion here today would be whether we put more money in the Social Action Fund. Ideally, wouldnt be going through every single nonprofit right now.

Lynn Hurtak 9:29:30AM

Again, I think that is a discussion for 58. Councilman Viera is not here and I know has a lot to say about that. Yes, we need staff for that. Ms. Kopesky will be here for that.

Martin Shelby 9:29:44AM

If I could just add to that, just for the context for the public, there are no budget resolutions on the agenda, so there will not be any official action relative to moving money today.

Lynn Hurtak 9:29:57AM

Item number 59 is Staff needed? No. Okay. So no Staff is needed for 59. What about 60?

Guido Maniscalco 9:30:09AM

Motion to continue to February 19.

Lynn Hurtak 9:30:11AM

I have a motion to continue item 60 to February 19. I have a second -- motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All in favor? Aye.

Guido Maniscalco 9:30:22AM

Motion to receive and file 61 and 62.

Lynn Hurtak 9:30:27AM

Motion to receive and file items 61 and 62. Those are written staff reports. Those arent things we can talk about. I have a second. Motion by Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? I do want to say that -- actually, I think were good with that. I dont know that -- Councilman Viera May have something to say about 51 or 61. I have a motion to approve the agenda and the addendum. I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. I believe, Mr. Shelby, IT is up to you.

Martin Shelby 9:31:20AM

Thank you, madam Chair. Good morning, Members Of Council, Members Of The Public. Martin Shelby, City Council attorney here to talk with you very briefly about the rules of decorum for this mornings meeting. Now, you have had the opportunity to fill out a general public comment card, if you wish to speak this morning under general public Comment And Place IT in the box outside. One card per speaker. Each person submitting a card will be recognized by name to approach and speak. Preference is given to those speaking on agenda items per council rules. Now, a three minute time limit applies per speaker. Print legibly because names that cannot be read May not be called. To speak at a public hearing, and if you are here to speak at something labeled a public hearing, items 40 through 49 on todays agenda, The Place to sign up for that is not to fill out a card but to fill out the sign-in sheet for public hearings thats at the podium outside, and your name will be called at the time -- excuse me, you will have the opportunity to speak. Your name will not be called but youll have the opportunity to speak when that item is called up for public hearing. Members Of The Public are please reminded to refrain from disruptive behavior, including making vulgar or threatening remarks or making or causing disruptive noises or sounds or displaying signs or graphics. Please direct your comments to the entire City Council as a whole rather than individual members. The Chair will rule out of order any person who speaks without being recognized or attempts to address the City Council from outside the speaker area at the podium. Persons failing to comply with the council rules May be ruled out of order and at the discretion of The Chair May be removed from the chambers for the remainder of todays meeting. Finally, City Council members should please refrain from engaging a speaker during public comment. The public should be aware that City Council does not take questions or have a dialogue with you during general public comment. This is your opportunity to express your position. So if you are here on items on the consent docket or here to speak on anything on staff reports or after that, if you want to speak on off the agenda items, youll have that opportunity. Thank you.

Guido Maniscalco 9:33:35AM

Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 9:33:42AM

I do not have the speaker cards yet, but we do have our registered online speakers. Well start with Mr. Randolph. My name is Michael Randolph. I am with the West Tampa CDC, over the months we discussed the major parts of the job creation center, how ai. Can help transform underserved communities and can expand capital assets to low-income neighborhoods. I want to show how they connect together for the equity role. The West Tampa opportunity network brings these components together into a coordinated path making residents, businesses, neighborhood groups. First, the skill enhancement builder offering workshops, certification, training, high living wage career to residents to gain skills for todays tech society. Second, the home-base e-commerce supports home-based and online entrepreneurs, storefront development, marketing help and business to resident connection that help grow. Third, the West Tampa business next connects local companies with residents, emerging entrepreneurs, and community resources to strengthen collaborative mentorship and economic growth. Four, neighbor to neighbor connect links neighborhood groups to share information, coordinate activities and access resources, social ties. Finally, the job connection is a streamline -- wraparound services and career navigation support creating a clear pathway to employment and stability. The West Tampa technology and Wealth-Building center has made national attention for the bottom-up displacement strategy. No money, no office and no paid staff. Only a community committed to doing the right thing. Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 9:36:44AM

Thank you very much. Okay. I have the speakers today. Just a reminder that if you are talking on the agenda and you have written something down, those go first. People who do not have a specific topic go next. So my first commenter today is Elizabeth Thomas followed by MaryBeth Williams and Pastor Williams. Elizabeth Thomas. Thank you. My name is Elizabeth Thomas. The growth -- more and more Families are moving in. You can see IT in the endless construction, wait list for day cares, full summer programs and traffic where a short five-minute Drive now takes 25. You really see IT in our neighborhoods. Kids are everywhere now. Children are outside playing in places where just a couple of years ago there wasnt a single kid in sight. The countys growth is well reported and you can see the impact across South Tampa. There is simply more Families with kids everywhere you look. Thats why our neighborhood Parks are so important. Families rely on them and personally visited every park south of Gandy and most north of Gandy, what stood out immediately was that these Parks have not been maintained for years at the exact moment when we need them the most. These are just a few examples. At Palma Ceia lions park, the picnic shelter roof is caving in. IT is completely unusable. Across almost every park, the play structures are outdated, the swing sets are missing swings, cracked, and many molded swings as well. Right across from robinson high school at bobby hicks park, The Basketball Court is sunken in. Thats why I support allocating 2.5 Million in surplus rollover funds to South Tampa park repairs. These are long overdue fixes that Families run into every day. The land is there. The Parks are established. Families shouldnt have to leave their own neighborhoods just to find a safe, usable park. This surplus gives US a real chance to finally address these long-standing issues. I also want to mention gadsden park, which ive been advocating for heavily. Im grateful improvements are planned but many of the important fixes are set far into the future. Families are using that park now, and I hope these improvements do not get lost in the shuffle and can be completed alongside these other repairs. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 9:39:06AM

Thank you. We have MaryBeth Williams followed by Pastor Williams. And then after that, Tarah Bluma. My name is MaryBeth Williams. I am the executive director of Friends Of The Riverwalk. On behalf of our board of directors and all of our community supporters, I would like to sincerely thank City Council, the Mayor, and City Staff for your continued support for including the Tampa riverwalk as a city asset in the fiscal year 26 budget. We are incredibly grateful for the citys partnership and for the confidence That You Place in our organization. The support will allow continued, high-quality programming, events that are free and open to the public, and services that activate the riverwalk, enhance our downtown waterfront and create welcoming experiences for residents and visitors alike. We look forward to another year of strong collaboration and to delivering top-notch programming that reflects the pride we all share with the City Of Tampa. Thank you again for your support.

Lynn Hurtak 9:40:15AM

Thank you very much. Pastor Williams followed by Tarah Bluma. And then Jason Marlow. Street. You know I want to speak about nothing on the agenda. I want to speak from my heart. You know, im concerned about people and I love people and God loves people. He wouldnt have made US if he didnt love US. Thank God that he do love US. All of US. Whether White, Black, green, whatever color you want to be. God loves everybody. I thank God for loving me. Now ive got a problem. I told you I dont want to speak about nothing on the agenda, but I did want to speak some Black history to you. But not Black history now. Its White history. I understand what im about to say. Im writing a book and its completed. I dont know whether they want me to publish IT or not, but im going to have IT published as soon as possible. You know what? We dont get a fair share here whatsoever Or The Court house. But we got to understand, we have people. Were with United and were some of the best people in the world because we have an agenda, and we want to honor Jesus Christ, honor God Almighty. We thank God for the days. Handicap and you all dont give a damn about me. Somebody will give a damn and thats God Almighty. God has been so good to me. I got a lot I want to say. Like I said, nothing on this agenda, but its coming from the heart. A Little White Boy went -- killed 20 people besides teachers. Thats sad. What kind of satisfaction can he get out of that? Little White Girl. Im wondering what kind of satisfaction can she get killing her mama. Her mama was a Sunday Schoolteacher. We dont do things in Tampa, Florida. I tell you something, we try to get IT right for the Lord Jesus or well be in a world of trouble if we dont have IT right. I praise God everywhere I go. My love for God and love for you, thank God for you all.

Lynn Hurtak 9:43:30AM

Thank You so much. I have a card for Sandy -- I think its Sanchez. I dont see Sandy here. Oh, okay. This is for a rezoning, and we dont fill out comment cards. Those have to be talked about during the rezoning itself. Tarah Bluma. Well wait until -- for the record, Councilman Viera has joined US. Okay. Tarah Bluma. Im Tarah Bluma. You May have heard a time or two this week that the residents of South Tampa would like some help with their Parks. Today, You have an opportunity to help the Parks in South Tampa with some desperately needed repairs. You all received a list of repairs compiled with feedback from hundreds of moms. We ask that You prioritize these issues. While im sure we could have come up with a list of our wants a mile long, this list was focused on those needs that must be addressed to achieve a basic minimum standard. They include replacing the only two special needs swings in South Tampa that have both been broken for years. Replacing swing sets full of rust and swings full of mold, a shelter bathroom combo with the roof caved in. Slides that are boarded up just to name a few. Please do your utmost to ensure the entire list is resolved. After a product meeting with Mr. Fowler, we are focused on a few of the issues that we think can be resolved with a $2.5 Million allocation from the 2025 remaining fund balance. We ask for this amount with consideration to other Non-Cra areas that May also want and need help. You should have had a lot more than 5 million to allocate, but turns out youve been approving things with that extra money without the knowledge and transparency that You were even doing so. Even today, You are being asked to approve $200,000 for golf courses with the leftover money. Nothing against golf courses, but why are they getting a special item? Why arent You considering that request with the rest of the $5 million? You are also approving Aj Palonis today. We spent half a million dollars on design and construction and permitting, excuse me, for a project that doesnt even have a building. Back when we received the money, $2 million was going to connect the two Parks under the bridge, provide some seawall improvements, new boardwalk, and a floating kayak dock. Today, what You are approving doesnt include any of that. The $2 million was free money from THEA that the city just couldnt be bothered to use for the past five years. How much more could You get with your money back in 2021 than You can get today? South Tampa deserves better. Youve been to our Parks. You see our needs. You usually dont have money for US. Today You do and we appreciate your consideration. Thank You.

Lynn Hurtak 9:47:09AM

Thank you so much. Next we have Jason Marlow followed by Luke -- sorry if I mispronounce that. Im here just to advocate simply for the full funding of Cornerstone Kids Community Stepping-Stones. As a product of after-school programs, I can personally attest that these programs are core to keeping kids out of trouble. If not for the programs, I would be even more troubled than I already am today. Council has previously discussed how investing in the programs is a proactive approach to both combating crime and providing opportunities for local youth. ID encourage this Council to lean into creative ways of finding ways to assist the after-school programs to both the benefit of children and parents. Thank you very much. You all stay dry. Have a wonderful day.

Lynn Hurtak 9:48:05AM

Thank you so much. Next is Luke Sirac followed by John Dangler. My name is Luke Sirac. I am the permit manager for Domain Homes here to speak today, just kind of an introductory public comment on item 60, which I think has to do with the sidewalk amendments. At Domain Homes, we do a lot of single-family residential rebuilds for property owners around the city. Today im speaking mostly on behalf of them rather than on behalf of Domain Homes. A lot of those owners that we rebuilt for last year had to do so because of damages from the hurricanes in 2024. I thought that I would be a good person to kind of speak on this with just some pretty on the ground insight into the code and the process and what these people had to go through in their rebuilds. So many of the homeowners we built for last year were rebuilds from the hurricane damage. Most of them were in flood zones where stormwater infrastructure in the right-of-way, ditches prevented them from installing required sidewalks. This resulted in them paying up to $25,000 in sidewalk in lieu fees. And IT is ours and the homeowners belief that the fees were unfair due to them having to rebuild by force and not really by choice. So that is the context here, but I also believe this is a good opportunity to kind of do some spring cleaning with the sidewalk in lieu code. I drafted up an amendment back in September, which ill provide to you in a moment. I have them all printed out here for everybody to read when they get to IT today. Here is just a quick overview of what is in this draft. Number one, and this is really the most important item. The rest of them are kind of optional, just things to consider. The first thing is, allow storm damaged victims required to rebuild per the FEMA 51% damage rule exemption from sidewalk in lieu fees. Also consider expanding this to future disaster events andor people rebuilding from non-fema compliant structures now to FEMA compliant in the future. And there is already a section in the code which exempts Affordable Housing from sidewalk in lieu fees. The second thing is to remove section 22-103-c-1 which allows the sidewalk in lieu option when there are no sidewalks to connect to. I think this just removes ambiguity from the code, and if you can put in a sidewalk, you must. Just make IT easy. Next is add standards for sidewalk reports from mobility. And number four is consider allowing sidewalk in lieu funds to be used for sidewalk repairs and not just new sidewalks. Number five is just cleaning up language, referring to one fund versus multiple funds. Theres multiple funds per section 22-104. Just some cleaning to do there. Thank you guys. Have a good day.

Lynn Hurtak 9:51:22AM

Thank you very much. If this is about item number 60, that has been continued. Just letting you know. Feel free to add IT, but we continued that to February 19.

Martin Shelby 9:51:35AM

[Inaudible]

Lynn Hurtak 9:51:37AM

Sorry about that. We did that during agenda review. I have John Dangler followed by -- actually, I have five cards from someone saying we need to allocate time. During public comment, we do not allocate time. So I will call each of you individually. I have John Dangler followed by -- oh, okay, no, Mr. Dangler. We are moving on -- Ms. Sanchez, you came into the room. I want you to know you filled out a comment card, but rezonings have to be talked about during rezonings themselves. Did you want to speak on public comment on anything else? If so, you are welcome to come up. If not, I will put your card away. I will put you on for public comment also. I have five cards for a p-3 proposal. If you all have an order with which you would like to go, if you would come up and state your name and then well go with one person and then I guess well go on to the next person.

Martin Shelby 9:52:45AM

Martin Shelby, City Council attorney. Dont feel compelled to use your full three minutes if you dont need to. Thank you. Resident here in the Tampa area. Just really excited to be able to present this public-private partnership proposal to the city. If you are familiar with the connected vehicle pilots that were done, I was the chief engineer on the Tampa connected vehicle pilot as well as involved in the New York connected vehicle pilot that was done at the same time. Columbus City, technical lead for that. This is the evolution of the technology. Well bring this to you exactly addressing Mayor Castor's comment about the achilles' heel in Tampa. I spoke with Mayor Castor and gave her information. Excited to solve transportation problem that Councilman Viera had On The Way getting here today. And just really addressing saving lives and improving the transportation throughout the city. My team is going to talk to you about some of the technology and stuff We want to bring and the benefits to the city. Really let you know that this is the evolution. Its not going to cost the city anything. We just need you to let US allow to do IT, let US bring the devices in and put them around the city so We can save lives and give you the micropositioning and real-time information that people need throughout the city. Multiplying that connected vehicle pilot benefits by a thousand, being able to employ this citywide. And youll be out in front of the country, you and New York and as other cities started adopting this, opening up the doors for federal funding. Very expansive because this technology is catching on very quickly. Weve already solved the chicken and egg problem, the connected vehicle pilot had. The vehicles and cell phones already have the technology in IT. We just need to put the infrastructure aside to make them talk to each other. From day one, as soon as this is deployed, the city fleets will start benefiting with this technology. Well be able to have cell phone device that can go up in your fleet vehicles and tell you exactly where you are, lane level. Address all kinds of litigation issues because youll know exactly reconstructing any accident to ten centimeter accuracy, youll be able to know exactly where the vehicles were during those accidents. Reducing litigation, saving a thousand dollars a year per driver on insurance costs because of the reduced litigation and the lives that are going to be saved. We just look forward to presenting you some of this information, but We really want to save lives and souls because this organization, half of the revenue that well generate is going to go to charity. Its really been set up as a God-Centered organization that We really want to benefit the community as well as benefit Tampa city and save tens of millions of dollars a year in the city budgets as well as generate benefit to the economy and hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

Lynn Hurtak 9:55:57AM

Thank you very much. Next, Damon Hurl -- im sorry. Whoever is next. Please start with your name. Make sure this works.

Lynn Hurtak 9:56:08AM

Thats upside down. There is a wheel up top that You can move to make IT fit.

Lynn Hurtak 9:56:29AM

You need to say your name first. Thank you very much for this opportunity. I brought this -- im going to touch on a few things. This technology, some of this similar technology is Already In Place, already being used, but not to what we want to do. There are deficiencies in current technologies. This, what were bringing to the table here is going to bring all that to maturity. Its going to fill the gaps. Its going to fill the holes. Its going to prevent and do these things that were looking at here. Zero cost deployment. No budget impact to the city. 8 to $25 million in annual operating savings. Through avoidance of crashes, all kinds of things. 200 to 1200 fewer pedestrian and bicycle crashes every year. 75 to 200 million dollars in total annual economic benefit to Tampa. Federal block grant opportunities. This technology is basically going to Lead The Way in not just Tampa, but eventually every city in the country. Its a tremendous -- there are so many tremendous benefits. I dont know if youve heard of the Ceve app. This is an app thats already been used in 20 different cities in the country. I believe IT is used in Tampa. Audible and heads-up display for pedestrians, bike safety, et cetera. Immediate accident micropositioning Reconstruction for insurance claims. So this is going to save the city millions of dollars. Better automated vehicle location position for fleet vehicles. So, again, this is going to perfect that particular technology and Make That Way more beneficial and useful for like full deployment. Also emergency vehicle automation. Again, there are so many benefits to this, just scratching the surface here. Want to thank you very much for your time. God bless.

Lynn Hurtak 9:58:44AM

Thank you very much. Next. If the rest of your group -- never mind. Go right ahead. Thank you for having US. Today I want to talk about how this technology is implemented. Here, we have a roadway marker and a top of light post connector, whether this is the exact implementation as IT looks on the connector or not, little bit different story. The technology is ultrawide band geometry -- or roadway geometry network. Basically, you have your markers, whether they are embedded in the ground or you see they are actually lightened up from the solar here. Either from here or something that is mounted near the roadway. IT provides a geometry from which you can tell where the lanes are. And the cars, the individuals with their cell phones or bikes can relate to those beacons and the geometry is made because of the amount of -- IT is down to the millisecond as far as where the position of the vehicle is, and thats why were able to get down to ten centimeters, about four inches. This has already been proof of concept. In New York city, I used to live in New York city, so this is real for me. This example here is on 6th avenue about 10 blocks. We use the light post mounts and the difference in these two lines is red is standard geopositioning or GPS with your phones, and then the blue is representative of what the ultrawide band solution provided. Also mentioned here is the l line which cuts across to union square and into brooklyn and having waited for trains for eight years, I know exactly what thats like. Its very beneficial. Know exactly where the train is and when exactly IT will come in. And being able -- thats also been passed on to apps when youre not even in the station, which is really great for planning a trip and being able to get where you need to be. Now, I mentioned before that for bicycle safety, the ultrawide band, the nature of IT, you can literally see around corners. Anyone thats traveling in their vehicle can be alerted, hey, here comes a Pedestrian. Here comes a bicyclist or e-scooter, e-bike, et cetera. There we can promote safety and avoid accidents. The Reconstruction for accidents super helpful. You can find out who is in the wrong, what happened, mystery solved.

Lynn Hurtak 10:01:45AM

Thank you very much. Next. My name is Kolten Elliot. I am a strategic investment advisor for Urgence. I just want to reinstate and come upon this board here, the technology has proven, again, we did a pilot test in New York and IT was very successful. Its not going to cost the taxpayers any dollars. In fact, its going to save the City Of Tampa, let alone $10 million annually, as well as this Technology Is Way better than lidar, than vision that is currently being used. This is the future, and we believe that Tampa is right for this opportunity, especially with Waymo, autonomous vehicles already deployed through the city, this has a major application for autonomous vehicles, for Tesla. This is the future, and were really grateful that you guys are here and listening. Thats all I have to say. Thank you all.

Lynn Hurtak 10:02:57AM

Thank you very much. Last. My name is Damon Hurlberg. My brothers and I grew up in South Tampa, 1967 to 1977, when IT was really a village. Actually, my brother wrote a song called 813. If you havent heard IT, I recommend you check IT out. Its awesome. Gives you a reminder about the days when you could ride your bicycles from San Rafael Street to Roosevelt elementary school. Spend time in the Boys Club. Amazing Place to grow up. The beach was 25 minutes away. This technology really is good news for Tampa. I hope we launch here in Tampa first. There are a lot of places all over the world that are going to be interested in this. This is my home. This is where I grew up. And I want to see IT launch here, but there are a lot of folks interested in. If we can somehow all get together and figure out how to knock down some of the doors and get this launched as fast as possible, its really going to save lives. IT is the lives of your friends, your family, your community, and all the 125 million visitors that come into Florida on an annual basis. This is going to be great. Just want to -- im hoping Tampa goes first, so lets see how we can work together and thank you very much for your time. Really appreciate that.

Lynn Hurtak 10:04:36AM

Thank you very much. Ashley Morrow, followed by Stephen Michelini and Sandy Sanchez. Hello, my name is Ashley Morrow. I will be sharing tampas Black history. So we are going to get started with the 1870s. So the first thing I want to talk about is the beating of Tom Clarke. The James Gettis Court also administered the roughest sort of justice to african americans, especially when IT came to individuals who demanded political rights or criticized the local power structure. Some were taken to the whipping post for the most trivial offenses and lashed by the officers of the law until blood trickled down their heels or thrust into the pillory. In this specific case with Tom Clarke, his ears were nailed to a post. Gettis did not permit clarke to bring in a witness. He was accused of stealing a gun tube. And this time, the judge sentenced him to receive 39 lashes. The fort brooke commander noted, judging from the condition of his back, the sentence was executed in a very brutal manner. And this was in 1866. Right after emancipation. In the newspaper, he goes to the governor, Governor Reed and asked to start a militia here in Tampa. He actually comes back. He is charged with larceny and he comes back with a state uniform on carrying a calvary saber, which is like a sword. IT said that he was commissioned to start a company here in Tampa, Florida. Here is the list of the 94 men, Black men that were a part of that Black Militia. IT was in 1870. Some names are more familiar than others. Im going to talk a lot about Thomas Mcknight. He was a leader back in those days. Theres no picture of him, so we dont really hear about him a lot. But this is his name right here. He is a captain. Not to be confused with Tom Clarke, the one who got whipped. Thomas Mcknight came from hernando as a lot of Black leaders came from hernando county and moved to Tampa for the protection of the military that was here in this area. I want you to notice the date. August 27, 1870. That next month, September 11, 1870, the freedmans bureau school started. IT needed to be started in order to have some protection for the things that they were trying to start here in Tampa. Because there was a lot of stuff going on. Finally, I want to share with you all a program that myself and green book Tampa Bay, dr. Hillary van Dyke And Dr. Sheryl rodriguez are putting on at c. Blythe andrews junior library, a public library in East Tampa. Called the beat at Tampa Bay. Black emerging talks of Tampa Bay. We will be talking about Black history in Tampa. I think a lot of growth comes through programming. Thank you so much for your time.

Lynn Hurtak 10:07:59AM

Thank you so much. Sandy Sanchez and then Steve Michelini. Followed by poynor. Sandy Dediego Sanchez. This past week, I sent you all an e-mail listing the difficulties I had going through the permitting process with the City Of Tampa. Im not going to go into all that because IT is quite lengthy. Problem with the delays are very, very extensive. Those that want to comply should not be subject to the many challenges with the permitting system. ID like to support Mr. Michelini's suggestion on the changes that need to be made to Code Enforcement. But along with that, I would like to suggest a workshop that will allow the public to come in and talk about the problems that they are having. Our situation, my situation, and the one Mr. Michelini is representing are not isolated. There are many, many people that have had these same problems and they go on deaf ears. I would like to ask you to please support Mr. Michelini's request to change, to try and reorganize and make the system more efficient. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 10:09:24AM

Thank you very much. Steve Michelini followed by Stephanie Poynor, and that is the last comment we have for today.

Lynn Hurtak 10:09:34AM

I dont have a card for him, but if hes here, then thats fine. Go ahead. What I had said to you over the last month or so involves suspending -- suspending fines while you are in the Code Enforcement process and trying to correct the situation. Its not as easy to get out of as IT was represented to you. And what happens is you get in this fine situation, liens are placed on properties quickly while you are in either a rezoning or a variance or permitting, and you cant just go to the hearing and say, please give me another date or something like that. Its not that easy. IT really is much more difficult. I know what to do. Its difficult for me. I can imagine what IT is for a Lay Person or somebody else who is not as informed or not involved in the process. Its very difficult. We urge you. I know you set a workshop date for this to come back in May. But the urgency of this is exacerbated by the amount of fines and the liens that are placed on property. I have a different issue I want to show you. This is late-night work thats being conducted and property is being used for storage of heavy equipment. I want to play this for you. Can you hear that?

Lynn Hurtak 10:11:10AM

Not well.

This is 10 10:11:13AM

30 at night. Platt and fremont. Heavy equipment, and the residents there are complaining. There are lights and these beepers. Ive turned this into Code Enforcement. Ive also discussed IT with the Building Department and TPD. They are not quite sure what to do about IT. Anyway, ive sent you an e-mail earlier regarding this as well. But this is going on all night. If IT complies with the construction code, 7 pm. Is the cut-off and 7 am. Is the beginning. There are two videos. Ill show you the other one. These are on different nights. Come on. Oh, well. You get the idea. Fremont and Platt. And there is probably a 30 or 35-foot high stockpile of dirt that they are accessing, no silt barriers.

Lynn Hurtak 10:12:41AM

Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 10:12:44AM

Stephanie Poynor. Stephanie Poynor, first of all, I want to point out that the parking fees went up. Did anybody know anything about that? Did anybody hear anything about that? This is, of course, rhetorical, but I didnt know about IT. I dont remember seeing or hearing anything about IT. If you knew about IT, great, but the citizens who are coming and paying to park down here are kind of upset about IT. ID like to see the resolution. Number 27, palonis park, this is kind of my baby. This is an agenda for the Gca, for the Gandy Civic Association. September of 2021 when they got public comment. They had IT starting in April of 2021. $2 million was given to the City Of Tampa by THEA. Now, this what got all this stirred up. When I saw this in August, I went, wait a minute, still five years later, we dont have a park yet. But yet there was no projection to spend any money in that park for five more years. So I started screaming. There was no intention of spending that money. Now, I pulled this morning off the capital improvement page. IT says, include, but not limited to, trail connection under the Gandy Bridge, passive recreational opportunities, fishing, picnicking, walking, kayak launching, other paths of recreational activities. Boardwalk, shelter, blah, blah, blah. So we get down here to the scope of work, which I got on e-mail yesterday, and IT says in the scope of work, IT says that were supposed to have a dock or pier, considering we have two piers in South Tampa, south of Gandy right now that are completely unusable. But I love this down here at the bottom, IT says, the modular building is going to be -- its a modular building, and IT doesnt even include light fixtures. You get to go to the bathroom in the dark. Theres no water fountains. Really? Its hot here. You need water fountains. This is what is left. You know what this is? This is crap. We got screwed. We had $2 million. $2 million in 2021 money was a hell of a lot more than IT is now. We were supposed to get amenities. Not only were we supposed to get the amenities in the last five years, but we had that park and the one to the north of IT shut down for five years prior to that before THEA. Why is IT that the money wasnt spent? We need all the amenities we were promised. We need the things that are listed on here, because this is what we were told in September of 2021. Either that or they are making Mr. Thompson into a liar today. Its not fair. We pay over $10 million. We had a $10 million jump with all the extra apartments that we have down here, and you guys cant find the money to do the right thing? Do better. I know its not you. I know its not Council.

Lynn Hurtak 10:16:23AM

Thank you very much. I have a couple more people who walked in. Bearing any -- okay. Go. Two more speakers. Thank you. In recognition of Black history month as well and actually every day is Black history day as far as im concerned. Im not going to say you all are the devil, but you all damn sure doing his work. For the people out there who didnt know on the very same morning that the man was arrested, the City Council canceled the City Council meeting. No explanation was given and pretty much said, hey, just get your asses out of here. That was disrespectful to the citizens of this city. I guess everywhere but Tampa and Hillsborough County, of course, the second dca and 13th Judicial Circuit, supposed to be rules that you all supposed to abide by. Shout out to one of our ancestors, Late Great Joe Madison and get IT where the goats can get IT. Rules are accomplished and playing field level, we kill IT. When they cant beat you, they going to cheat you. I guess another testament, so-called christians that they think recharacterized the individuals they claim to Worship is more proof of the heinousness of you people sometimes. They even rebranded Woke. Woke was a warning word to our community to people traveling and doing other things to be aware that they will hang you from trees in this nation. If you are traveling in certain places, be aware of sun-down times. That wasnt that long ago. See, My Father joined the Military when he still would have had to sit in the back of a bus. IT wasnt that long ago. Im going to say this, people, you dont have to agree with how Crump Man approaches things. I can understand that. But youre out of your damn mind if a person who looks like me and who served in this nations Military and honorably discharged, say its okay for anybody to violate anybody elses first amendment rights, whether you agree with IT or not. Because they start with a little bit and then they take a lot. And so temper yourselves when you dont have a great understanding of things. I do recommend that everybody take the time to read that parchment they call the united states constitution. Its not my fault if you didnt get to attend the greatest institution of higher learning in the City Of Tampa, university of Thomas Jefferson high school.

Guido Maniscalco 10:19:11AM

Thank you very much, Sir. Our last speaker, Sir. Gentleman In The Beige --

Lynn Hurtak 10:19:21AM

Yes, please come up and start with your name. My name is David Philipson. I am from brooksville, Florida. I recently moved to hillsborough. For a hundred years, there has been a Confederate statue in brooksville. I saw the last council meeting where a woman by the name of Ashley Morrow, I believe her name is --

Lynn Hurtak 10:19:59AM

Shes right behind you. Talked about the manor house and the Gentleman who owned IT and all that. My main point is the manor house in brooksville generates a revenue for the county. IT is actually -- yes, IT is true that the manor house serves as a venue for parties and weddings, and things like that. But IT is used, like I said, to generate a revenue. From what I remember, and this is something I have to look into, the property in the manor house itself is probably on the list of historical properties for the State of Florida. Yes, IT is true Hernando has a bit of a nasty history. But ive done my research in hillsborough, too. Now, the one thing at the time She had mentioned, the Klan actually did -- was here in hillsborough, too. Its not just brooksville. But ive seen in past years people would protest and fight for their southern rights and pride and things like that. And IT was all over tv many, many years ago. Its just something to think about. History is important. Its important to preserve for future generations. And thats all I want to say. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 10:21:55AM

Thank you very much. Is there anyone else for public comment? Okay. Moving on to our next -- We have some board and administration appointments. Is there anyone here to speak on the board and administration appointments? If not, I think We just --

Guido Maniscalco 10:22:20AM

Move items 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

Lynn Hurtak 10:22:24AM

I did want to say something about this before we moved. I know these are the mayors choices. We also have some choices that Council needs to make. If anyone knows anything about that, im not -- Council member Carlson.

Bill Carlson 10:22:39AM

Yeah, a couple of things about the committee, its been inactive for a long time. I made a motion a couple of months ago to put the tree fund underneath this instead of creating a new committee for trees to reactivate this one. But if you look at page 16 of our agenda, IT has a listing of the open positions, and for some reason this one is not on IT, at least I dont see IT. If there are positions available that City Council can fill, we need to know that and notice IT, because somehow the Mayor knows to fill them but we dont. The reason they are not on the list is because this is a new board. However, council will be provided with a memo regarding applicants on February 19. Quiwanaki Ramsey, Assistant Deputy City Clerk.

Bill Carlson 10:23:41AM

This is a Board thats been inactive. Anyway, if You All could add IT to the list, the reason is that the public reads the list and now You All kindly have added this because before we didnt know --

Lynn Hurtak 10:23:55AM

He just said they are bringing nominations on the 19th.

Bill Carlson 10:23:58AM

No. But IT needs to be on this list. Thats what im saying, how would people know to -- how would people know to apply? People have complained in the past that its difficult to find on the citys website what positions are available. So this now, the Clerk added this a couple of months ago. This is the list people would know. If you all sent a memo to City Council, the public wouldnt see IT.

Lynn Hurtak 10:24:23AM

Mr. Shelby, IT looks like we might have public comment for these or we do accept public comment to talk about boards and administrative appointments, do we not?

Martin Shelby 10:24:33AM

Generally its during general public comment. Its councils pleasure. We do not have a Specific Place. Its not set for a public hearing and does not say public comment on the agenda. However Council wants to handle IT. Thats -- we Used To Place this before public comment and then allow people to speak. But we didnt do that because You were going to take final action on IT. What happened is we moved IT on the agenda to follow the public comments, so You would not have to take public comment again.

Lynn Hurtak 10:25:07AM

Councilwoman young.

Naya Young 10:25:10AM

I dont mind.

Martin Shelby 10:25:11AM

If you want to make an exception for today and Council takes additional public comments and waives its rules, thats fine. But the point is the reason IT was moved on the agenda to follow public comment is IT was supposed to be public comment was supposed to be -- these items were supposed to be inclusive in the area of public comment.

Lynn Hurtak 10:25:31AM

I have a motion from Councilwoman Young. Do we have any thoughts on IT? I have a second from council member Carlson. All those in favor to allow public comment, lets say one for all of them. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

Martin Shelby 10:25:48AM

Thank you, Council.

Lynn Hurtak 10:25:48AM

We have public comment on 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. IT sounds like We also need to handle this within our rules.

Martin Shelby 10:25:59AM

Meaning what?

Lynn Hurtak 10:26:00AM

We need to figure out, like, where people are allowed to comment on this.

Martin Shelby 10:26:07AM

Clearly the answer, Council -- I will include that in my comments.

Lynn Hurtak 10:26:12AM

My point is for Council to have a discussion where they believe this should go in the future.

Martin Shelby 10:26:17AM

I see. Well, fine. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 10:26:19AM

Yes. Stephanie Poynor. Im kind of confused because ive been up here and spoke against candidates for the Vrb. Ive been up here and spoke against candidates for the Planning Commission. I have been up here and spoke for candidates for the Planning Commission. This is a new discussion to me because I know that ive done IT before, many times, many, many times. Of course, Councilman Carlson talked about this list. Im kind of curious who are the five neighborhood people that are supposed to be coming forward on the 19th. First thing I heard about IT. Carroll Ann Bennett has been working on this committee along with trying to get this committee to meet since like 2017. Its supposed to be meeting twice a year. Whats gone on with this? I want to know why in gods name City Council would approve that they get five candidates? That means you are supposed to collaborate to put people on the board. Normally you guys get seven seats. So youve got six seats for the mayor and five seats for City Council. That math doesnt math for me. Im just saying. I want to know who applied for the other seats. Because IT doesnt make sense that nobody that I know, nobody that Carroll Ann Bennett knows is going to be on that board. Who is IT? They are supposed to be your appointments. Do any of you know who IT is? Just saying. I mean, you might know and im just stupid and out of the loop, but IT doesnt happen very often that I am completely clueless on something like this, that Carroll Ann Bennett has been pounding on. Shes got e-mail after e-mail after e-mail pounding on this. As a matter of fact, we met with Chief Bennett about this very subject, maybe two months ago at the Blind Tiger. So weve had lots and lots of input on this, but I have no clue who will be on the committee. I hope that somebody up there knows who is going to be on the committee because the last thing I want -- oh, wait, wait. Oh, my God. Do I need to pull public records to find out who has applied today? I guess ill go do that right now. Now im --

Lynn Hurtak 10:28:32AM

Okay. Thank you very much. Next. Im thrilled that this Committee is being reconstituted. Much-needed. I am also confused as to when the application was open for neighborhood representatives. Im also not aware of that. But I mainly wanted to point out that im pretty sure, fact check me on this, that these seats are supposed to be staggered and that people are supposed to be rolling off of this Committee every year. So I dont know how youre approving people today for all the exact same term. Somebody should check that. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 10:29:13AM

Thank you very much. Okay. Does anyone have any questions or comments? Councilwoman Young.

Naya Young 10:29:23AM

Well, I did ask a few questions during the briefing. I wanted to at least see, you know, the resum s or anything of who was applying. I did see some of the applications. I think one of them wasnt completely filled out All The Way. I did also have a question about the staggering of the terms. I was told that they would get back to Me on that information. Obviously, I wasnt here in 2017 when the conversation surrounding this was happening. But I did have some initial thoughts about. And I would have liked to at least have them here to speak or to --

Lynn Hurtak 10:30:19AM

IT looks like Ms. Pettis-Mackle. Councilwoman Young, yes, this resolution was passed prior to you joining City Council. So IT was resolution number 24-866. I have that here. I can e-mail you a copy of IT, but these are the terms in which the members -- the membership is governed by. Its in subsection c. As you can see, its staggered three-year terms. Its on your agenda. You are only approving one, two, three, four, five, six people. City Council has your own members that you have to select to join this committee. So there will be staggered terms. These are just the first group of people who will be on this committee. But there will be staggered terms once City Council completes your appointment process. There will be staggered terms, because they wont have the same terms as the people who you are approving if you choose to approve today.

Naya Young 10:31:38AM

So the groups of appointments are staggered, not each. Because IT says the terms of Each Member shall be staggered three-year terms. So that would be Each Person, right?

Camaria Pettis-Mackle 10:31:54AM

Not each person. Youd want the committee to not have people -- You want -- You always want people to be a part of the committee, correct? So in order to achieve that, they have to have different terms. These people that are on the agenda today will have a term as -- the terms of the members or the public who apply today will be from February 5, 2026, to February 4, 2029. If City Council completes this process of selecting your own members, they will have different terms other than the terms of the people who You are approving today. They wont be from February 5th, 2026 to February 4th, 2029, because You dont have those people yet. They will have different terms.

Lynn Hurtak 10:32:55AM

Yeah, thats only like a month or two apart. That doesnt make any sense. They are not staggered.

Naya Young 10:33:04AM

Okay. Am I --

Lynn Hurtak 10:33:06AM

No. Im with you.

Naya Young 10:33:09AM

Okay. The first line, IT says the terms of Each Member shall be staggered three-year terms. So in my mind -- maybe im not --

Lynn Hurtak 10:33:30AM

If six start today, then -- yeah, how is that staggered? Sorry. Go ahead.

Naya Young 10:33:39AM

I want to form my thoughts.

Lynn Hurtak 10:33:41AM

This is a resolution or an ordinance?

Camaria Pettis-Mackle 10:33:45AM

Resolution.

Lynn Hurtak 10:33:46AM

So, as a resolution, we can change the resolution, correct?

Camaria Pettis-Mackle 10:33:50AM

If that is the desire of City Council.

Lynn Hurtak 10:33:52AM

Im going to recommend that we spend a little more time on this and possibly change the resolution. So I will accept some type of motion, if somebody needs to formulate something more specific.

Guido Maniscalco 10:34:06AM

Ill withdraw my motion of approval, but also these February 19 City Council appointment, who are they? What about the application process?

Camaria Pettis-Mackle 10:34:16AM

I dont know. I cant speak to that.

Guido Maniscalco 10:34:18AM

Is the process open at that time? IT is my understanding that City Staff handled that media release that should have gone out to the public for applications. The application process then closed and we vetted and verified using background screening. From that list, the Mayor chose her selections, and the remaining is scheduled to come to you on February 19. That memo would be coming out tomorrow.

Lynn Hurtak 10:34:50AM

Councilwoman young.

Naya Young 10:34:51AM

Sorry. So can you tell me when did IT go out?

Naya Young 10:34:58AM

No, when -- Department, Staff Department used that.

Martin Shelby 10:35:04AM

May I suggest --

Naya Young 10:35:06AM

So We dont know when the announcement went out that We were accepting applications for this board?

The Clerk 10:35:12AM

Not to my knowledge.

Naya Young 10:35:15AM

So when IT is time for Council to pick our six, We have to choose from the remaining applicants? So We dont get to.

The Clerk 10:35:27AM

I dont believe You are forced to choose from that list. That is a list We have that are verified.

Lynn Hurtak 10:35:34AM

Mr. Shelby.

Martin Shelby 10:35:35AM

Council has a lot of questions as to appointments to a Board that IT wants to create and have its own appointees. Clearly, I dont believe this is ripe, but a lot of questions are also raised. I should also point out, Council, that on page 16 of your agenda, there are lists of open boards and commission positions that are available, but I dont believe I see this Board listed there. I dont know why or how Council would have any indication that on February 19, you would be picking appointments to a Board from a pool that youre not even aware of. So my suggestion is to put IT on for a future agenda for discussion, have the resolution, have the ad that went out. Have the staff members who were tasked with soliciting for this without councils knowledge or approval and perhaps you can go further from there.

Lynn Hurtak 10:36:36AM

We have ability, We have room on the March 26 agenda, if anyone wants to make a motion.

Bill Carlson 10:36:40AM

Can I say one thing?

Lynn Hurtak 10:36:41AM

Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 10:36:43AM

Yeah, this is one of those things where people say Tampa has a strong Mayor form of government. But what happens is the Mayor is only -- the charter actually has a balance of power. What happens is that some Mayor offices usurp City Council powers. Thats an example of what happened in this case. Last seven years ive been on the council, this Administration has tried to usurp City Council powers by putting people they like in control on the committees. Couple of weeks, well be talking about the ethics committee, another big problem. They use a weapon against City Council and people in the community. We need to change the charter to make IT very clear. I think every committee should have either two or four appointees by the Mayor and one each by City Council. What happens, The Way that the Administration controls IT is if there are fewer than seven, if we each cant appoint one, isnt the case in most committees, then suddenly a lists pops up. Dont know where IT came from, unless a long discussion. Turns out, came from the mayors office, people they recruit. If we dont each have an appointee IT turns out that the Mayor controls all of these. The public wants a balance of power. Discussion for another day. Also, my colleague said she was briefed on this. E-mail and say publicly again, I expect to be briefed just like anybody else on issues that are coming up. I refuse, I stopped meeting with the mayors political advisor six years ago or so, because I dont see the need to meet with someone who is counting votes and who has been investigated by the Tampa Bay times for stirring up conflict on City Council. But I do expect to meet with the administrators who have policy content. And most of them do contact me and reach out to me. But the fact that apparently at least one of my colleagues was briefed and I wasnt means that the Administration is selectively excluding people which, again, is against the charter and is against the intention of the public. Its against transparency and accountability in our government. I make a motion --

Lynn Hurtak 10:38:55AM

Did you want to --

Guido Maniscalco 10:38:56AM

I make a motion that -- yes, maam.

Lynn Hurtak 10:38:59AM

I had a question. I thought You got that during your regular briefing. Is that when You talked about IT?

Naya Young 10:39:06AM

About what?

Lynn Hurtak 10:39:07AM

When You had questions, did You do that during your regular briefing or separate briefing?

Naya Young 10:39:12AM

Regular.

Bill Carlson 10:39:16AM

My point is six years ago, I stopped those because The Mayor has her political advisor running IT. I dont want to participate in The Mayor's political directives and activities. I want to get briefed on policy. Ive sent out memos and other things. The Mayor's office has been saying the last couple of weeks I refuse to get brief. No, I refuse to sit in a briefing controlled by The Mayor's political advisor when the Tampa Bay times pulled public records and found text messages that that person and communication director sent to City Council stirring up conflict on City Council while were sitting in meetings. Im happy to share those with anybody who would like to see them. There are other examples as well. My point is theres no regular briefing if The Mayor is using IT for political purposes, we need to have administrative updates from and policy updates, not political updates. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 10:40:04AM

Councilman Maniscalco, would you like to make a motion?

Guido Maniscalco 10:40:08AM

Thats why I always say, I love this job but I hate the politics. I know what I got myself into. Anyways, ID like to make a motion to postpone or continue items 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 until March 26 of 2026. And then in that, we can look at the structure of this board as to staggering the terms. If IT is going to be 11 seats total, how we stagger those in response to some concerns, but also get questions answered. If we can put this under -- is IT a regular meeting or workshop?

Lynn Hurtak 10:40:49AM

Its a regular meeting.

Guido Maniscalco 10:40:50AM

If we can put IT under staff reports so we can have a discussion regarding the process with which this was advertised. Again, if we look at the end of this agenda, IT shows you a list of available boards. But the process that was used to advertise this, who the applicants are and whatnot, because im left in the dark. February 19 comes around, and its going to be new to US or a week before. Thats my motion that we have this under staff reports as a City Council discussion and in that, continue items 3 through 8 and wait for any further approval.

Lynn Hurtak 10:41:25AM

I have a second -- I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilwoman Young. Mr. Shelby first. Then Councilman Carlson.

Martin Shelby 10:41:34AM

I would ask for a follow-up motion so the items prepared for next week, come --

Lynn Hurtak 10:41:40AM

Its in my head.

Bill Carlson 10:41:42AM

Two things. Number one, this isnt on the City Website either, so the public wouldnt have seen IT. Council Member Maniscalco, what do you think about continuing these items until a month after? Because the reason why were going to discuss, discuss the changes we need to make to the resolution.

Guido Maniscalco 10:42:00AM

Do you have an April date?

Bill Carlson 10:42:03AM

Throw out to everybody --

Guido Maniscalco 10:42:07AM

Theres like the 17th.

Bill Carlson 10:42:08AM

Idea is We would have one date where We discuss the resolution, ask Staff to fix IT. And then later We would have a discussion about the Applicants.

Guido Maniscalco 10:42:17AM

So that is the motion, but as part of this motion, move items 3 through 8 to April 16, which is a regular session.

Lynn Hurtak 10:42:27AM

Lets separate the two.

Martin Shelby 10:42:31AM

Youll start with moving those to April and then come back?

Lynn Hurtak 10:42:34AM

Yeah.

Guido Maniscalco 10:42:35AM

Scratch everything. Ill start again. I would like to make a motion to continue items 3 through 8 to the April 16 regular City Council agenda.

Martin Shelby 10:42:48AM

Under boards and appointments.

Guido Maniscalco 10:42:49AM

Under boards and appointments right after public comment.

Lynn Hurtak 10:42:51AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. I still have a second from Councilwoman Young. All those in favor? Aye. Can you also move next weeks while were here?

Guido Maniscalco 10:43:01AM

I would like to make a motion to continue the City Council Natural Resources Advisory Committee appointments from February 19 to April 16 under boards and appointments along with --

Martin Shelby 10:43:15AM

My suggestion, if I can.

Lynn Hurtak 10:43:17AM

I need a second.

Lynn Hurtak 10:43:18AM

I have a second from Councilman Viera. Motion from Councilman Maniscalco, second from Councilman Viera. Yes, Mr. Shelby.

Martin Shelby 10:43:27AM

My suggestion would be to have the discussion in March.

Lynn Hurtak 10:43:32AM

Thats what were planning to do.

Guido Maniscalco 10:43:37AM

To April.

Martin Shelby 10:43:39AM

Same day. Now I understand.

Lynn Hurtak 10:43:42AM

I have a motion moving from Councilman Maniscalco, second from Councilman Viera. All those in favor? Aye.

Guido Maniscalco 10:43:50AM

The final motion is that on March 26 of 2026, under staff reports, that City Council have a discussion regarding how this was advertised, meaning the Natural Resources Advisory Committee, who the applicants were, the applications, and what -- where we go from there.

Lynn Hurtak 10:44:08AM

Do I have a second?

Guido Maniscalco 10:44:10AM

Im sorry. And how we stagger the terms.

Lynn Hurtak 10:44:14AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Viera. Councilman Carlson. You have your mike on.

Bill Carlson 10:44:24AM

Sorry.

Lynn Hurtak 10:44:25AM

Councilman Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 10:44:26AM

Im all for this but you have to be careful when you have staggered terms. We ourselves in Government dont have staggered terms. Im just saying that.

Lynn Hurtak 10:44:34AM

Thank you. I would say that one thing thats not on there that I would like a friendly amendment is to just talk about the resolution as a whole and possibly changing the resolution.

Guido Maniscalco 10:44:47AM

Regarding how to stagger the terms?

Lynn Hurtak 10:44:49AM

Staggering the terms, Appointees by Council. Just like a full, robust discussion.

Guido Maniscalco 10:44:57AM

A broader discussion on the resolution itself and the appointment and selection process.

Lynn Hurtak 10:45:02AM

Okay. Anyone else? Councilman Miranda?

Charlie Miranda 10:45:07AM

No, none.

Lynn Hurtak 10:45:09AM

Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 10:45:11AM

What date did we pick for that?

Lynn Hurtak 10:45:14AM

March 26.

Bill Carlson 10:45:16AM

On the April 23rd workshop, we have Council discuss as to whether to assign oversight of the tree trust fund to the citys Natural Resource Committee. We can leave IT on there, I guess, unless you want to discuss IT on the other day.

Lynn Hurtak 10:45:28AM

No, I think IT is a good -- okay. So I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Viera. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Yes, Mr. Shelby.

Martin Shelby 10:45:39AM

Martin Shelby, City Council attorney. On the March date, im also going to, just for your information and perhaps you want to address this further on Down The Road, rule 8 of your own rules of procedure is entitled filling vacancies to various boards. There is a process defined there. ID like to have council take another look at IT and see if that also might need to be looked at about how that process is, in fact, working.

Lynn Hurtak 10:46:05AM

Does anyone want to make a motion possibly adding IT to the March 26 agenda?

Martin Shelby 10:46:11AM

Or I could send IT out to you that date and Council can decide what they want to do with that.

Lynn Hurtak 10:46:17AM

Mr. Shelby, that sounds great.

Martin Shelby 10:46:19AM

Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 10:46:20AM

Did we approve that? All those in favor? Aye. Excellent. Lets move along. Public Safety, Councilman Viera.

Luis Viera 10:46:35AM

I hereby move 9 through 13.

Lynn Hurtak 10:46:46AM

I have a motion from Councilman Viera. I have a second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor? Aye. We have Neighborhood And Community Affairs Committee, Councilwoman Young.

Naya Young 10:46:59AM

I move items 14 through 22.

Lynn Hurtak 10:47:03AM

I have a motion to move items 14 through 22. I do want to talk a little bit about the golf course capital, I do support this, only because one of the things that They are working on is a new, like, sort of top golf sort of thing that is actually going to make them money. So ideally, They wont have to come to US for any money in the future as this goes forward. I do support that. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Infrastructure.

Guido Maniscalco 10:47:38AM

Thank you very much. I have items that I would like to move 23 through 27, but 27 is a substitute resolution. So its clear for the record.

Lynn Hurtak 10:47:50AM

So I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilman Miranda. Item 27, we are going to hear an update about Parks and piers from Mr. Fowler.

Guido Maniscalco 10:48:05AM

Do you want to hold IT?

Lynn Hurtak 10:48:07AM

I would like to hold 27 until we heard from Mr. Fowler. I apologize for not having done so during --

Guido Maniscalco 10:48:13AM

I will then make a motion to move items 23 through 26 and 27, pull IT for later discussion and possible approval after we hear from Mr. Fowler.

Lynn Hurtak 10:48:23AM

Would you prefer to have those separated? No. Okay. I have a motion -- a new motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor of moving only items 23 through 26. Okay. Aye. Any opposed? Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 10:48:41AM

Move 32 through 36.

Lynn Hurtak 10:48:47AM

Councilman Miranda, you are next, 28 through 30.

Charlie Miranda 10:48:50AM

28 through 30, move.

Lynn Hurtak 10:48:52AM

I have a motion from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor? Aye. Now, Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 10:49:01AM

Move 32 through 36.

Lynn Hurtak 10:49:03AM

I have a motion moving items 31 through 36. Im sorry. 31 was moved. 32 through 36. I have a second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Mr. Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco 10:49:23AM

Move items 37-38.

Lynn Hurtak 10:49:27AM

Motion from Councilman Maniscalco to move items 37 and 38. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

Guido Maniscalco 10:49:33AM

Move to set item 39 public hearing March 5, 2026 at 1:30 pm., City Council chambers, 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, 33602.

Lynn Hurtak 10:49:43AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Now we have our walk-on. Do we have anyone here?

Martin Shelby 10:49:56AM

I believe You have been briefed on IT, Council.

Lynn Hurtak 10:50:00AM

I would still like Somebody from Administration here to talk about IT.

Martin Shelby 10:50:03AM

I guess We are moving quickly. We can hold that.

Guido Maniscalco 10:50:08AM

Motion to open the 10 am. Public hearings.

Lynn Hurtak 10:50:10AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Viera. All those in favor? Aye. These are quasi-judicial proceedings. If you are here to speak on items 40 through 47, any item, 40 to 47, please stand, raise your right hand and be sworn in. [Oath administered]

Lynn Hurtak 10:50:42AM

Thank you very much. I see Mr. Massey is here. Well go ahead and go back to our walk-on while we have a moment.

Morris Massey 10:50:50AM

I apologize. This is an ordinance amending an existing ordinance that you have relative to the citys obligation to defend elected officials. I think its pretty self-evident. Supposed to extend City Council sits as CRA Board as well as City Council. That is the purpose of the ordinance. Im here for any questions. This would be first reading. IT will be scheduled for a public hearing and will be publicly noticed before IT is adopted.

Martin Shelby 10:51:21AM

I want to let council know -- Martin Shelby, City Council attorney. The title for the ordinance on first reading is on your addendum.

Lynn Hurtak 10:51:29AM

Okay. Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 10:51:34AM

Yeah. I did have a briefing on this. Thank you to Scott and Mr. Morris. I want to remind my colleagues, we have a CRA meeting coming up, and we keep bumping the contract with the CRA and the city. We need to not sign the existing contract with the city. We need to amend IT. Theres no reason for the CRA Board to sign the contract now. We need to use that leverage that the contract is out of date to negotiate what we want. This is something that I was hoping would be in the change to that contract. In meeting with morris and Scott, I understand why they did IT This Way. But please, this is one example of why that existing contract puts the CRA Board at a disadvantage and leaves the city in complete control. So, please, I would ask my colleagues, please read through the version that I did. Edit IT however you want. If we approve the existing contract with the CRA, there are other things like this that are not included that are bad for the CRA Board.

Lynn Hurtak 10:52:39AM

Mr. Massey, did we not already approve that?

Morris Massey 10:52:42AM

I believe the services agreement has been continued for further discussion.

Bill Carlson 10:52:49AM

IT was the meeting that we canceled.

Lynn Hurtak 10:52:52AM

I need a motion. Councilman Viera.

Luis Viera 10:52:57AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanted to thank all of City Legal for jumping on this. When you are an Attorney and 1% chance of something bad happening, you spend a hundred percent of your time working on IT. You all are professionals and hard workers. Thank you.

Guido Maniscalco 10:53:12AM

[Inaudible] read the title.

Guido Maniscalco 10:53:19AM

Do we need public comment?

Martin Shelby 10:53:21AM

Have public comment at the public hearing.

Lynn Hurtak 10:53:23AM

This is the first reading. We allow -- IT is specifically in our rules to allow public comment during a first reading.

Martin Shelby 10:53:31AM

Yes. There is a motion to that.

Lynn Hurtak 10:53:32AM

If there is anyone who wishes to speak about this, please come on up. State your name. You have three minutes. I think its a brilliantly idea. Im wondering why in the hell IT hadnt been done a long, long time ago. Anything you do because of the City should be covered, and we should not forget that weve had Previous Council Members who were sued individually and the City didnt help them out until afterwards. You guys deserve all the protections that you can get because youre doing a really, really hard job. Its not part-time, By The Way. Have a good day.

Lynn Hurtak 10:54:11AM

Thank you very much. Anyone else? Do we need to close?

Martin Shelby 10:54:18AM

Its not officially a public hearing, but thats fine. Ill address that when we update --

Lynn Hurtak 10:54:23AM

Motion to close by Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Councilman Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco 10:54:35AM

Ill read IT and then we can have discussion. Ordinance being presented for first reading consideration, an ordinance of the City Of Tampa, Florida, amending section 2-234 of the City Of Tampa code entitled representation and reimbursement in the defense of elected officials, to include City Council members acting in their capacity as Community Redevelopment Agency board, members in the definition of elected officials, providing for possible reimbursement to the city by the Community Redevelopment Agency for legal fees and costs incurred by the city in representing Community Redevelopment Agency board members; repealing all ordinances in conflict therewith, providing for severability, providing an effective date.

Lynn Hurtak 10:55:08AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. I have a second from Councilman Viera. Any comment? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you very much. Please read the vote and second reading information.

The Clerk 10:55:28AM

Motion carried unanimously with Clendenin absent. Second reading and adoption will be held on March 5, 2026 at 10 am. In City Council chambers, 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Lynn Hurtak 10:55:43AM

Thank you very much. Now well go into the public hearings. Item number 40.

Christopher Demanche 10:55:55AM

For the record, Christopher Demanche with Development Coordination.

Lynn Hurtak 10:55:57AM

Just one moment.

Christopher Demanche 10:56:00AM

This is a rezoning request for property located at 2539 West Cherry Street. The request is to rezone from planned development to planned development for residential single-family semi detached uses. Revisions have been completed and certified plans submitted to the Clerk's Office. Im available for any questions.

Lynn Hurtak 10:56:19AM

Any questions? Applicant? Do we have an Applicant for item number 40? Excellent. You havent been sworn in yet. Mr. Ramsey, if you wouldnt mind. If anyone else needs to speak today during the public -- and hasnt been sworn in, please raise your hand. To be sworn in. Thank you very much. Raise your right hand. [Oath administered]

Lynn Hurtak 10:56:53AM

Thank you very much. We updated our drawings specifically with the elevations per the comments. I appreciate the stronger criticism on IT. I think IT was well warranted. Im happy to present IT and hope to get your continued approval.

Lynn Hurtak 10:57:20AM

Anyone? Comments, questions? Motion to close? Motion to close by Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Councilman Viera, will you please read item number 40.

Luis Viera 10:57:40AM

Yes, maam. I move an ordinance presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 2539 West Cherry Street, in the City of Tampa, Florida, and more particularly described in section 1 from zoning district classification PD planned development to PD planned development, residential, single-family, semi-detached, providing an effective date.

Lynn Hurtak 10:58:01AM

Motion from Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. Please record your vote. Councilman Carlson has left.

The Clerk 10:58:19AM

Motion carried with Carlson and Clendenin absent at vote.

Lynn Hurtak 10:58:23AM

Thank you very much. Can someone move the resolution?

Guido Maniscalco 10:58:26AM

Move the resolution.

Lynn Hurtak 10:58:27AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. I have a second from Councilman Viera. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Item number 41.

Christopher Demanche 10:58:40AM

Again, for the record, Christopher Demanche with Development Coordination. Item number 41 rez-25-91, request to rezone property located at 2704 West Palmetto Street. Request to rezone is from planned development to planned development for single-family semi detached uses. Revisions have been completed and submitted to the clerks office. Im available for any questions.

Lynn Hurtak 10:59:02AM

Okay. Any questions? Anyone here for item 41? Anyone in the public wishing to speak about item 41?

Lynn Hurtak 10:59:14AM

Motion to close by Councilman Maniscalco. Second by Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Councilwoman Young.

Naya Young 10:59:24AM

File rez-25-91, resolution approving a bonus --

Lynn Hurtak 10:59:33AM

Were doing ordinance.

Naya Young 10:59:34AM

Sorry. Ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 2704 West Palmetto Street in the City of Tampa, Florida and particularly described in section 1 from zoning district classification PD planned development, to PD planned development, residential, single-family, semi detached, providing an effective date.

Lynn Hurtak 10:59:53AM

I have a motion from Councilwoman Young. I have a second from Councilman Maniscalco. Please record your vote.

The Clerk 11:00:05AM

Motion carried with Carlson and Clendenin absent at vote.

Lynn Hurtak 11:00:10AM

Thank you very much. Do I have a motion to approve the resolution?

Lynn Hurtak 11:00:15AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. I have a second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Any opposed? Item number 42.

Christopher Demanche 11:00:23AM

Again, for the record, Christopher Demanche, Development Coordination. Item number 42 is rez-25-100. This is a rezoning request for property located at 2707 North Armenia Avenue and 2334 West St. Louis Street. The request is to rezone from RS 50 and CI to planned development for storefront residential, commercial, office, as well as all CG uses. We visions have been submitted to the clerks office. I should say revisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerks office. Im available for any questions you might have.

Lynn Hurtak 11:01:00AM

Any questions? Applicant? For item number 42. Sam Areff. I second what he said. I want to thank City Council and City Staff for their support. IT just made the project more beautiful.

Lynn Hurtak 11:01:23AM

Thank you very much. Any questions? Anyone from the public wishing to speak to item 42? I have a motion to close by Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Councilman Maniscalco?

Guido Maniscalco 11:01:38AM

Yes, I have an ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 2334 West Saint Louis Street and 2707 North Armenia Avenue in the City of Tampa, Florida, more particularly described in section 1 from zoning district RS 50, residential, single-family, and CI commercial intensive to PD planned development, storefront, residential, office, commercial, all CG uses, providing an effective date.

Lynn Hurtak 11:02:02AM

Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. Please record your vote.

The Clerk 11:02:12AM

Motion carried with Carlson and Clendenin absent at vote.

Lynn Hurtak 11:02:19AM

Thank you very much. Item number 43. Stephanie Pope, Development Coordination. Item 43 is rez-25-107. This item is a rezoning request for the property located at 3208 and 3210 North Tampa Street. The request is to rezone from RS 50, residential, single-family, to PD, planned development for residential single-family attached uses. Revisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerks office. The changes directed by council, along with a note addressing the elevations have been added to the site plan. I am available for any questions.

Lynn Hurtak 11:03:01AM

Any questions? Do we have an Applicant? James Lascara, Applicant. Appreciate the feedback from first session. Excited to receive unanimous approval at first hearing. Made updates to renderings and elevations as requested. Im available for any questions.

Lynn Hurtak 11:03:17AM

Any questions? Is there anyone in the public that wishes to speak to item number 43? Motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor? Any opposed? Councilman Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 11:03:33AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. File -- 43, file rez-25-107, ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 3208 and 3210 North Tampa Street in the City of Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in section 1 from zoning district classification RS 50, residential, single-family, to PD, planned development, residential, single-family, attached, providing an effective date.

Lynn Hurtak 11:03:58AM

I have a motion from Councilman Miranda. A second from Councilman Maniscalco. Please record your vote.

The Clerk 11:04:09AM

Motion carried unanimously with Clendenin and Carlson absent at vote.

Lynn Hurtak 11:04:12AM

Thank you very much. Item number 44.

Stephanie Pope 11:04:16AM

Good morning. Stephanie Pope, Development Coordination. Item number 44 is rez-25-110. This item is a rezoning request for the property located at 3219 West Arch Street. The request is to rezone from RS 50, residential, single-family, to PD, planned development for residential, single-family, detached. Revisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerks office. I am available for any questions.

Lynn Hurtak 11:04:43AM

Okay. Any questions? Applicant, I believe I see an Applicant on the screen. Mr. Henry. If you could raise your right hand, please, and be sworn in.

The Clerk 11:04:57AM

Do You swear or affirm the testimony You are about to give is the truth and nothing but the truth?

Lynn Hurtak 11:05:05AM

We cannot hear you. Please unmute yourself. Cannot hear you.

Lynn Hurtak 11:05:24AM

There you are. Mr. Henry. Good morning, everybody. Henry, Domain Homes, 3104 -- suite 2, Tampa, Florida, 33603. Here for any questions you May have. And thank you for your time and consideration.

Lynn Hurtak 11:05:42AM

Okay. Does anyone have any questions for the applicant? Okay. Anyone in the public like to speak to item 44? I have a motion to close by Councilman Miranda. Second by Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Councilman Viera.

Luis Viera 11:06:01AM

Yes, maam. I move an ordinance presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 3219 West Arch Street, City of Tampa, Florida, more particularly described in section 1 from zoning district classification RS 50, residential, single-family, to PD planned development, residential, single-family, detached, providing an effective date.

Lynn Hurtak 11:06:23AM

I have a motion from Councilman Viera. A second from Councilman Maniscalco. Please record your vote. Missing one. Try again. Everybody record a vote.

The Clerk 11:06:46AM

Motion carried unanimously with Carlson and Clendenin absent at vote.

Lynn Hurtak 11:06:50AM

Okay. Thank you very much. Item number 45.

Stephanie Pope 11:06:55AM

Good morning. Stephanie Pope, Development Coordination. Item number 45 is rez-25-111. This item is a rezoning request for the property located at 802 and 804 East Floribraska Avenue and 3003 North Mitchell Avenue. The request is to rezone from RS 50, residential single-family, to CG, commercial general. Since this is a euclidean rezoning, there are no site plans. I am available for any questions.

Lynn Hurtak 11:07:24AM

Any questions? Do we have an applicant for item number 45? Catherine Coyle, Bogs Engineering. Im available for any questions. We respectfully request your approval.

Lynn Hurtak 11:07:37AM

Okay. Anyone -- any public comment on item 45? Can I get a motion to close? I have a notion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Viera. All those in favor? Aye. Councilwoman Young.

Naya Young 11:07:53AM

File number rez-25-111, ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 802 and 804 East Floribraska Avenue and 3003 North Mitchell Avenue in the City of Tampa, Florida, and more particularly described in section 1 from zoning district classification RS 50, residential, single-family, to CG, commercial general, providing an effective date.

Lynn Hurtak 11:08:30AM

I have a motion from Councilwoman Young. I have a second from Councilman Maniscalco. Please record your vote.

The Clerk 11:08:42AM

Motion carried unanimously with Clendenin and Carlson absent at vote.

Lynn Hurtak 11:08:45AM

Thank you very much. Item number 46.

Stephanie Pope 11:08:50AM

Good morning. Stephanie Pope, Development Coordination. Item number 46 is rez-25-117. This item is a rezoning request for the property located at 4202 West Spruce Street. The request is to rezone from RS 50, residential, single-family, and PD, planned development, to PD planned development for residential, multifamily. Revisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerks office. The applicant has also added a note regarding the height as proposed. Im available for any questions.

Lynn Hurtak 11:09:24AM

Any questions? Applicant? As Stephanie mentioned, we made the changes between readings and happy to answer any questions.

Lynn Hurtak 11:09:36AM

Any questions? Anyone In The Public that wishes to speak to item 46?

Martin Shelby 11:09:58AM

Ms. Sanchez has three names. Please acknowledge your presence when I call your name. Leoba Leolita. Well, there are two people. Miriam Arvanitas and Robin Lockett. Thats three additional minutes for a total of 6.

Lynn Hurtak 11:10:27AM

Okay. Yes, ms. Sanchez. Mr. Shelby, we have a total of? Six minutes. Thank you very much. My name is Sandra Dediego Sanchez. In April of 2025, the Carver City, Lincoln Gardens Community came before you with their concerns for their community and their homes regarding the same project. Last year, the rezoning failed. Traffic concerns and overbuilding, which include 1500 units that are presently being built within the Carver City, Lincoln Gardens property. The main concern is the geotechnical engineering report that the Developer ordered and paid for which is not in the file. This property has not changed. That report is still good for this property. Not sure why they decided not to add IT, except that there are some questions about the property. The property they are going to build is same as last year. The property is on a land fill and as are many of the homes. Many of the residents, including recent buyers, were never told, but the Developer knows. The Developer is aware that there is documentation showing how many of the homes have already been plagued with foundation issues. Its not cheap to have the foundations repaired. The existing homes are fragile. The residents fear for the safety of their homes, a major investment for them. This is part speak of many times as the missing middle. Should this neighborhood be put in danger. I have given you a summary of the report. I have highlighted a couple of issues, and I want to just mention a couple of remarks. On page 2, IT gives a description of what the report was done for. IT was supposed to be a four-story wood frame and have office buildings and a garage. The plans have changed. On page 6, I would like to read to you, should consist of compaction with vibrator compactor at the final cut of existing strip grade elevation, whichever is lower. The compactor should be operated at a slow walking pace and at least a total of ten passes. Direction of the -- care should be used, and this is the important part -- for operating this compactor near the existing structures to avoid transmission of vibrations that could cause settlement damage or disturb the occupants. Static mode rolling compactor should be considered adjacent in this -- visual survey of nearby existing buildings prior to compaction should be done. On page 8, at the bottom, the scope of our services -- this is from the Engineering Company, does not include any environmental assessment or investigation for the presence of absence of wetland, hazard or toxic materials in the soil, groundwater, or surface water within or beyond the site studied. Any statement in this report regarding odors retaining or soil or other unusual conditions, strictly for the information of our client. I am asking the Developer to submit the complete geotechnical report as IT should be used when they proceed into permitting. The report was not submitted with the current design, nor was IT submitted for the final design. The property has not changed and the report would be current. Also, which is not being considered, is the demolition of the current buildings which will take heavy equipment to demolish. Their proposal, same land fill. What jeopardizes the community, jeopardizes this Developer. IT is irresponsible at best. The staff report finds IT consistent, but nowhere does IT address the permanent damage to the community, the consistency found only benefits the Developer and does not address the human responsibility of keeping neighbors safe. I have included on the very first page, the land use goals. They do not comply. They are against those land use codes. I please ask you to deny this request. Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 11:15:51AM

Thank you very much. Next. Please start with your name. You have three minutes. Im a resident of the Carver City Lincoln gardens community. I would first like to share with you comments that residents of the community signed a petition against this. IT reads: to the members of City Council, we the undersigned are opposing the petition to build a multifamily construction on the property located on the corner Of Lois Avenue And Spruce Street. We have representation at the first reading of the request at the last meeting, but because -- and at the last meeting. But because of extensive presentations by the Davis Island Representations, we were unable to express our opinion. The meeting extended into the early morning hours. And for various reasons, we were not able to remain. The infrastructure remains the same, and IT is dangerous for US to move about safely in the community already. Permitting this construction only enhances the danger. As we are aware, there are another multifamily construction being built on the corner of boyscout And Lois Avenue. Guaranteeing more traffic on the already dangerous to Navigate Lois Avenue. We ask that you keep in mind that the safety of the community is to be considered when making these decisions, and that is construction will impede our safety more than IT is at this time. We ask that you please deny this representation. I have signatures to go with that petition. Personally, I would like to say that I realize that the Petitioners have made some adjustments to the plan, but those adjustments are not enough to justify construction of the building at this time. The infrastructure is just Not In Place. I held my breath earlier this week when I observed the Member Of Our Community taking a chance by pulling out in front of oncoming traffic on lois, forcing the Driver to stop just to get Onto Lois Avenue. Please consider our livelihood and the danger of adding this structure to and more traffic to our community and not allow IT. We are not against growth and improvement, but we are asking that the building of this structure be denied until further infrastructure is created. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 11:18:40AM

Thank you very much. If you have the signatures, you can hand them to Mr. Shelby.

Luis Viera 11:18:44AM

May I say something? Its not on this. You all had gotten a memo that I had an engagement. Just a reminder of that. Its about another 12 or 13 minutes. I say this, well be down to four council members. Just fyi.

Lynn Hurtak 11:19:00AM

Thank you very much. Next. The negative impact which holds my deepest fear is the infrastructure. My home is currently a remediated sinkhole property. In 2009, We had 36 helical piers placed under our home to stabilize IT, $43,295. 2010, We had an additional 12 helical piers added for 14,000 additional dollars. There are three homes directly behind the proposed complex and two homes on the other side of union that have experienced severe cracking.

Lynn Hurtak 11:19:38AM

If you could please show the wolf. Its upside down. Could you please pause? Its upside down. There you go. So my house is right here, 4203. Next door, my house is the house that had the remediated sinkhole. This house right here directly behind On Lois Street, 1908, theyve had severe cracking that theyve had to adjust and make payments for within the last year. The house immediately next door to me has foundation repairs. On the other side of Union, 4218 have foundation repairs, and 4220 right now is experiencing severe cracking in their home which They are addressing at this point. The structural damages of this massive building will cause some damage to our homes, and IT is very scary. If this goes through, will we have access to the findings for the building site? Monitoring our property and damages throughout. Prep, building process, and after. Questions about financial ability if this damage occurs. Right now, Homeowners Insurance for people who have remediated sinkholes, IT only covers a catastrophic event. So The Only Way I would receive any help from the insurance company is if my house falls into an abyss. If I get cracking, any other kind of issues with the foundation, I would not receive any compensation from the homeowners -- from the Homeowners Insurance. So I would really like for you guys to consider the damage that this new structure May cause the existing properties that are right there on Union, the three directly behind the property, and the two Across The Street. They are going to be adding over nearly 800 units and a thousand parking spaces between the two paradise ventures They have been approved for. Having traditional neighborhoods can represent the broader Tampa concept by mixing the old with the new. Growth should be added responsibly. We have enough apartments already surrounding US. Please keep our heritage neighborhood Carver City safe. Protecting neighborhoods is important, too. I have petitions.

Guido Maniscalco 11:22:12AM

Yes, maam. If youll give them to the Attorney.

Martin Shelby 11:22:14AM

This is different from what was previously handed in? Thank you so much.

Guido Maniscalco 11:22:19AM

Thank you very much. Yes, maam. Please state your name. Yes, maam, go ahead. My name is Sheryl Davis Anthony. My maiden name. I grew up in Carver City back in the '60s. I moved away and came back. I live in my parents' house. Im concerned about the buildings that are building around our community. When my father was sick, they built the recreation center. I have no oppose about that. They build the International Mall. He went through all of that in his illness. Also, we have cracks in our house. Im very concerned about that. They put the structure right behind where I live. We own the two lots plus where we live. And if they continue to build behind US, beside US, and where they are deciding to put the four-story structure and the pool is right next close to me behind me. And we have my neighbor, they are elderly, and they go through all of this. People are sick. We have elder people. And most people On Our Street in our community have been there for decades. And to continue to build and make heavy traffic, IT takes you about, almost about five to seven minutes to get out from -- I live on Union. And to get to lois, to get out, its very scary because you got to concentrate on people walking and the traffic. And then sometimes if you go out and youre not paying total attention, you can get hit and IT almost scared me. I walk my neighborhood a lot. And seeing all this new this and that going up, and making -- One Of My Neighbors said that She had her house renovated. Shes new to the area, but She showed me how shes getting cracks. If they are continuing to build, where are we going to go? Our house is going to start sinking, and we want to know whats going to come to US. We have to sell or go somewhere else. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 11:24:59AM

Thank you very much. Next. My name is Annalie Alina. I am a homeowner of the property directly adjacent to the property site. The concerns of my family remain unresolved, which are the height being a seven-story building and the sinkholes, of course, is a main concern. Right there in between two sinkholes. The overcrowding and the density of the neighborhood and the whole entire area and the safety for the family, for the children. There is a school right next on Lois. There is a magnet school. We have demonstrated previously that the surrounding area is in no shortage of available apartments. And granted -- almost 400 units and another sister site of this Developer for 410 units built right there directly on Lois. So that is additional, almost a thousand units. Regarding the height, I would like to stress the councils attention to the fact that the seven-story building will set the precedent for the entire area of IT being so high, adjacent, directly to the single-family. There is no other apartment complex that high adjacent to the single-families. We have demonstrated that before. We are very concerned for the safety of the children of the neighborhood, stemming from increased traffic and criminal activities being brought up from so many apartment units in the neighborhood. And we have previously demonstrated that the entire area is a former land fill. Sinkholes is a main concern. Like my neighbors said before. I would like to add that I have spoken with this neighbor at the very corner. She had mentioned that her property starts having cracks as well. My property is right here. So I have previously addressed the fact of this matter with a Developer, and I have not heard back. But I feel like should this be approved, the Developer gets all the benefit for many, many years, but we are the current property owners, with the Community, we are left with possible additional costs for having to have structural inspections ongoing throughout the construction stage and then completion stage and going forward and possible remediation. Again, this hasnt been addressed. We have no warranties proposed from the Developer or anything of that kind. With the likelihood of future redevelopment of nearby county and city properties, again, weve talked about this. Theres going to be so much traffic there. Lois Avenue And Spruce Street cannot sustain that. Previously, its been recorded April meeting after the hurricanes the Entire Spruce Street was flooded and people could not just move along at all for days. Urge you to deny.

Lynn Hurtak 11:28:14AM

Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 11:28:15AM

Next. And You came in after, so if anyone else has come in that hasnt been sworn in, please stand, raise your right hand if You plan to speak. Please raise your right hand, maam. To give is the truth and nothing but the truth?

Lynn Hurtak 11:28:39AM

Thank you very much. Please state your name. You have three minutes. My last name is spelled d-a-n-i-e-l-s. I live between -- I live On Main Street. My address is 4316 West Main Street. And On That Street, im between manhattan and hubert. Around the corner, Union Street and all that, where all the structure is going up. My main concern is about the children, and the children of the children. Its just not safe. What I want to say is what was the best thing about that, in that neighborhood, IT was a neighborhood served through the Hillsborough County public schools, including Jefferson High School, Lavoy Exceptional Student Center, and Roland Park K-8, a magnet school. We have children that participate in that neighborhood from all over the world. And IT is not safe to get out of the driveway. IT took me ten minutes to get out of my driveway, and my kids can walk to school. But the reason I was Going To Drive them to school, because IT wasnt even safe to stand in our driveway, which we are four feet into the driveway, people would speed Through Main Street. People walk their dogs. I love my dogs. I love my Guinea pigs, too. But its just not fair that they are not treating IT like a neighborhood residential family, which consists of children and all of their loved ones and the elderly. Whats hurting me the most is I love to see like Lavoy, that school, particular school, would teach those kids safety and they will walk up and down in Carver City, those streets. Those children had assignments. To hear that person say to the other person, no, im in charge because the day they said I can go Down Main Street or im going to go walk almost All The Way to lois or well go around union. These are people that, children that became -- they are people, they are adults, but its not safe because the cars rule IT and the buildings that they are putting in is smothering what we have already established and we want to continue to have IT there as a foundation and call that our neighborhood. We want to continue to do that. I thank God for the City of Tampa Police Department, because I was almost run over on manhattan standing on the corner, and the officer pulled -- said I saw what happened. I thank you all for this little bit of time because I can talk. I can tell you about everything. My Son is 50 years old. My Son turned 50 years old July the 10th last year. And My Son is very successful, and he went to roland park. He went to that school area. Thats what made him, helped him Along The Way to be the man that he is from the military. I thank you all for your time. I know I went over. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 11:32:03AM

Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 11:32:05AM

Next.

Lynn Hurtak 11:32:49AM

Just one second. Please start with your name. Stephanie Poynor. You know, the first reading lasted -- IT was at 2:00 in the morning. IT was funny because there were a lot of folks from the Community that were here that night, but that was the night of the Mirasol meeting. There were a bunch of people who stayed behind and actually spoke in favor of this project. I spent just a few minutes googling. I dont have any connection between Ripco and the actual developer. I think its strange we had two people from that company. But we had one, two, three, four -- four different people from Playbook Public Relations Company that spoke. They were not neighbors. They should have been part of the applicants presentation. They stood out like a turd in a punch bowl because IT was so late. They didnt look like the other folks who came here today and spoke publicly. I wanted to make sure you guys understood. Were having more and more of this of developers calling their friends and neighbors and having them come and testify, and they have nothing to do with IT. People are getting paid to come and do public comment. Now, I would like to point out to you, this house right here, this red pin, this is the applicants site. This red pin right there, remember, if youll remember the first time this came in front of you, council member Henderson had to recuse herself because She owned this property right here. This is Her Mother's house. Its uninhabitable. Do I have any proof? Except I had a phone conversation with her not very long after the hearing, after She recused herself. She explained to me She has family who would love to live in the house but IT is uninhabitable because of the structural damage to IT. How are we going to continue to destroy peoples homes in order to give this developer what they want? Now, first of all, they came back. Its been less than a year, but do you know that in between this one and the last one they filed a live local? They filed a live local in between? They got turned down because IT had been previously a PD. Its not industrial land. Its not -- but, you know, this whole thing was people showing up. These developers are hell-bent on building here. Yes, Westshore district allows for this kind of density. But they do not allow you -- they do not make you approve construction next to a frickin' chlorine plant? Staffers dont make the decisions. You make the decisions. If this is not a safe property, you can make that decision. Its been said before. Its been done before. When the chlorine plant, when they wanted to build abutting a chlorine plant, City Staff said we dont make those decisions. Thats on you. This is on you to make the decision, is this safe for the surrounding Community? I say no. Sandy showed you -- put sandys stuff in the record, please.

Lynn Hurtak 11:36:04AM

Anyone else wish to speak to public comment? Is there rebuttal? The Applicant has rebuttal. Tyler Hudson. 400 North Ashley Drive. I want to focus a bit on why were here, what the applicants role is and what City Council's role is. This is a quasi-judicial proceeding. Thats why everyone had to get sworn in, including a latecomer like me, which I apologize for. The two questions before you are, first, is this application consistent with the comprehensive plan that your predecessor has adopted? The answer is yes. This is rmu 100. IT is the highest density land use designation that this city has. We didnt try to change that. That was already there. This is exactly where growth is said to be directed under your comprehensive plan. And if there are issues with that and I understand the heartfelt concerns of the neighbors and this feeling that too much growth is coming here, there are a lot of neighborhoods in the city that Feel That Way because the city is growing so much. The Way to change that is through the comprehensive plan, which you all are currently changing now. But as a property owner, we have rights. And those rights first stem from what is allowed under the comprehensive plan. Thats the first inquiry. Your Planning Commission expert staff which courts have held is expert testimony has said, yes, this is consistent with the comprehensive plan. Thats question one. Question two, is whether this plan is consistent with the local governments land development regulations. IT is. There is not a single waiver proposed on this plan. We are using less density in far. Than what is allowed. What you heard in the testimony, there was a lot of, I think, heartfelt concern and fear. Some of that was speculation. Ill talk about the Geotech in one second. But what you didnt hear is competent, substantial, and fact-based testimony that this violates the comp plan or the land development regulations. We can go far afield and we can go down a lot of different paths, but that is the focus of this meeting. Thats why were here. Thats why we were sworn in to determine first if this is consistent with the comprehensive plan. And, second, whether this is consistent with the land development regulations. This council unanimously, upon consideration of this at first reading, said yes. Nothing has changed. Briefly on Geotech, that is not within the ambit of this discussion. Get a site permit, we have to prove that the land can absorb the structural land on top of IT. We cant build a building that the soils wont support. Were not allowed to. We wouldnt want to. That is a subsequent process in site permitting that staff has jurisdiction over, but Geotech is not something we are required or really can prove at this stage because we dont have a building fully designed yet. Got IT right the first time. I would ask for your vote of approval again. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 11:39:20AM

Any questions from council? So I have a question for the applicant. Just if you could speak to the residents' fear about sinkholes and foundational issues, I didnt hear you touch on that in your rebuttal. First of all, the Developer couldnt be here. Hes out of town. I know Chris, they will have him, he will be at the next Carver City, Lincoln gardens meeting, and to continue discussion throughout the construction process. We have seen projects throughout the city, construction as perhaps you know from your neighborhood, construction can be messy. If this is approved, Chris met with the Neighborhood Association throughout this process. I think we came to a point where we knew there was a disagreement. First of all, on his behalf, I can commit that he will do that. He will show up after this is over because this is a long process. I know that doesnt answer your question. I want to put that on the record. Second, on Geotech, we have to prove -- a licensed engineer has to prove out to get a permit. Again, our land alone can support all of the structural load. As far as other apartments nearby, I dont know what happened. Thats sort of outside the course. Its also possible that the soil beneath an older single-family home has issues in that the cause of the cracks and things like that, IT might be from the soil beneath the home. Its possible that vibrations half mile a way have nothing to do with that. We have to prove to the government, not only that, we have to prove to people who are giving money to make a project like this happen, that its not going to cause problems on the site or around IT. Just like with stormwater, you have to prove that your site is going to take care of all of IT on-site. Its an engineering question that we must answer affirmatively by an Expert who puts their professional license and their insurance on the line when they say, yes, this is safe. So that is our obligation on Geotech, which were going to meet. I think more broadly, there is a discussion that this council should have about construction practices on projects. I know there is going to be concern about that. I cant tell you theres never going to be an inconvenience as a result of construction here. This area is growing significantly. On behalf of the Developer, I can promise that after this approval, they are not going to walk away. They are going to continue to communicate. But from a Geotech perspective, this building causing earthquakes, zero evidence of that. What you heard today was some speculation. I think IT did come from the heart, but thats not the basis of your decision today. The basis of your decision today is on evidence and what is in the record. What is in the record is a staff report finding of full consistency across every department, which is, I think, the basis of your decision the first time, which again I maintain was the correct decision. I hope that answered the question. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 11:42:46AM

Thank you.

Charlie Miranda 11:42:50AM

We should have a full council for this. This is going to be somewhat controversial on either side. There are facts on what everybody said. I believe what everybody said. However, believing everything is not factual because there is a clash. There were four waivers.

Lynn Hurtak 11:43:14AM

Six.

Charlie Miranda 11:43:16AM

I just want to be fair to both sides. I understand. You know what, im making a motion for the cycle in July. Ill make another one that We are tying up a lot of our rules because every time We do something, not regarding You. You are a great attorney. You do a fantastic job. You and your staff and the firm You are with. Fantastic. But thats not the case. IT is a case about what We have to figure out. Im not talking about this one right now. Ill go off to another subject. The record be clear, im not talking about this right now. Whats happening in the City Of Tampa, growing so fast and so perfect, that were not fast and perfect at the same time. Were building things that belong there, but then around that area, someone is suffering. And im not talking about You. Believe me, im not. I swear on my mothers ashes. But theres got to be a marriage, and im going to change some of these laws. I wrote one today about people having parties in neighborhood situation where drunks come in and 12,000 people, 20,000 people, and the police was there, they couldnt handle the crowd. This past weekend. I feel sorry for the people who went. I feel sorry for the people who had to listen to that. And I feel sorry for the Police Department being there. Ill fix IT by changing the law. This, so help me God, before I leave, im changing IT that a lot more has got to be done because I dont want anybody to be unhappy. I want people to live in harmony. The problem today in america, the problem We have in Washington is nobody speaks to each other. And thats the main problem We have in communication. If We stop doing that, forget about the internet. Forget about your cell phone. No one looks each other in the eye and realizes what IT needs to survive. And that is the problem We have. Thats not about You. Not about this development. I said IT over and say IT again. We have a problem that We cannot solve because nobody talks eye to eye. Thats IT.

Lynn Hurtak 11:45:13AM

Thank you, Mr. Miranda. -- or councilman Miranda.

Martin Shelby 11:45:16AM

Martin Shelby, City Council attorney. Circling back to this item that you have before you, and you do have something in the code as IT exists today upon which you apply the competent substantial evidence as you find IT. Thats section 27-136, the purpose of a planned development. As I usually do in the night meetings, I pass these out for you to see, so you can actually look at the nine criteria that exist in your code and apply the facts as you find them to be. With two public hearings. Youve heard testimony that you didnt hear at the first public hearing. You heard reasons why that was. But just a reminder that this public hearing is another opportunity to engage all parties to allow for more competent substantial evidence to come into the record upon which you base your decision. I wanted to make that clear to council.

Lynn Hurtak 11:46:12AM

Okay. Anything else from Council?

Guido Maniscalco 11:46:16AM

No.

Lynn Hurtak 11:46:21AM

Mr. Shelby, we need all four of US to Vote One Way or the other in order for this to pass, is that correct?

Martin Shelby 11:46:31AM

That is correct. The rules stating that are rule 6-c, if at a quasi-judicial public hearing, only four members of Council are available to take action, then any Petitioner shall have the right to continue the matter until there are a minimum of five members. If there is less than a full City Council, a Petitioner May request to continue a matter but IT will not be as a matter of right. So in this case, Council can take action, but if the Petitioner does request a continuance, that is granted as a matter of right.

Lynn Hurtak 11:47:11AM

Petitioner?

Lynn Hurtak 11:47:17AM

Okay.

Charlie Miranda 11:47:20AM

I didnt hear what He said.

Lynn Hurtak 11:47:22AM

He said we need a vote. IT is the petitioners choice.

Martin Shelby 11:47:29AM

The Council then, Council, for You, is then the question is, if there is a vote, depending on what that vote is, You May be required to create a record of the basis of Your decision. If IT should be different than what Your initial vote was. In other words, Your vote as IT stands now in the agenda You see IT, but if that vote should change for any reason, my recommendation would be that that be clearly stated on the record.

Lynn Hurtak 11:48:11AM

Any questions before we close the public hearing? I have a motion to close by Councilman Maniscalco.

Charlie Miranda 11:48:21AM

Im not going to second IT now. I really believe that when you have only four members, its incumbent on those four members to say if they want to have the hearing with four or seven. Now you set a standard forever and ever that four members can do what the hell they want instead of seven.

Martin Shelby 11:48:44AM

Martin Shelby, City Council attorney. Four members under the city charter can effect official action. That is your charter, and that is the law. However, if you dont get four votes, let me read the rule that applies to that. IT says rule 6-h, if a motion in a quasi-judicial matter fails to receive at least four votes, the motion fails. And if another motion, for instance, a motion to continue, in order is not made, the public hearing shall be automatically -- let me rephrase that. Strike what I added into the rule. Let me read IT verbatim. If a motion in a quasi-judicial matter fails to receive at least four votes, the motion fails. If another motion in order is not made, the public hearing shall be automatically reopened and continued to a time certain at the next regularly scheduled council meeting. Would like to request a continuance. I dont want more lawyers to get involved in this than necessary. With councils grace and discretion, wed ask for a continuance. I would ask to the next possible meeting because we do have some external --

Lynn Hurtak 11:50:13AM

February 19 is the next meeting. I dont want to be a crowd, but that would be wonderful.

Lynn Hurtak 11:50:23AM

Right now IT doesnt look like We have any -- IT doesnt look like We have any second readings on that. Im sorry. We have seven. Okay.

Charlie Miranda 11:50:43AM

Im not opposed to that.

Lynn Hurtak 11:50:44AM

My only -- does someone want to make a motion to that effect? The 19th. Its just really full.

Guido Maniscalco 11:50:55AM

IT doesnt matter. We were here until 3:30 in the morning. I would like to make a motion to --

Lynn Hurtak 11:51:04AM

We can do a time certain. That is what Mr. Shelby said.

Martin Shelby 11:51:08AM

Yes. I guess the question is, if You do IT at a time certain, then IT will have to be You stop what youre doing and take IT up.

Lynn Hurtak 11:51:19AM

Councilman Maniscalco, would you like to make a motion and choosing a time?

Guido Maniscalco 11:51:25AM

What would be an appropriate time certain? Like 1:30 pm.?

Lynn Hurtak 11:51:29AM

1030 am. Is generally when we take these up.

Guido Maniscalco 11:51:33AM

Well do a motion to continue this item to -- ill get the number here, rez 25-117, continue IT to February 19 at 11 am. 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602, united states.

Lynn Hurtak 11:51:56AM

Do I have a second?

Charlie Miranda 11:52:01AM

Ill second IT.

Lynn Hurtak 11:52:02AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. I have a second from Councilman Miranda. Yes, Councilman Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 11:52:07AM

1100 is fine, but usually we do IT at 1:30 would be best because right after lunch and Everybody is already cleared just about.

Guido Maniscalco 11:52:17AM

Lets do 1:30 because we might have long public comment and ceremonial things.

Lynn Hurtak 11:52:21AM

Choosing 1:30.

1 11:52:23AM

30 is fine.

Lynn Hurtak 11:52:25AM

My request between this and that is for Your Client to have a meeting with the Community to talk to them about what possibly, about their particular concerns. I think that would be well advised. I know youve probably had them before, but if You could get peoples contact information, that is going to be my personal ask.

Lynn Hurtak 11:52:49AM

Okay.

Martin Shelby 11:52:51AM

Martin Shelby again. I would ask that the agenda for the clerk be placed, this be the first item at 1:30 after lunch.

Lynn Hurtak 11:53:01AM

Councilman Maniscalco, is that what you wish?

Guido Maniscalco 11:53:03AM

Yes, maam.

Lynn Hurtak 11:53:04AM

I have a motion to move this hearing to February 19, 1:30 pm., First on the agenda after we return from lunch at 1:30. I have a second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you for the commenters who came out today. Reminding you that we also take -- I know several of you took time out of your day to come here. We also accept City Council e-mail. Just to let you know. Mr. Shelby.

Martin Shelby 11:53:43AM

If I could point out that City Council e-mail is not the same in terms of competent, substantial evidence as having somebody in person.

Lynn Hurtak 11:53:52AM

For people who cant make IT out twice, we also allow public comment via online access. I know its hard for people to come back out. Okay. Thank you very much. Please make sure you meet with these folks outside. Get contact info and have a meeting. Thank you, Council.

Charlie Miranda 11:54:12AM

Thank you all very much.

Lynn Hurtak 11:54:13AM

Okay. Item 47.

Stephanie Pope 11:54:18AM

Stephanie Pope, Development Coordination. Item number 47 is rez-25-127. This item is a rezoning request for the property located at 5501, 5511, 5531, 5551, 5561, units 101-319, 5571, units 101-328, 5521 and 5541 north 22nd street and 2302 and 2236 East Hillsborough Avenue. The request is to rezone from PD planned development to PD planned development for residential multifamily, retail sales, specialty convenience, shopper goods, personal services, business professional office and restaurant. Revisions have been completed and certified plans have been submitted to the clerks office. The applicant has also added the label identifying the location of the dog park. Im available for any questions.

Lynn Hurtak 11:55:16AM

Before I go any further, Council will be taking lunch after this. So if you are here to speak to any other item, youll have to do IT when we come back. Sorry. I know we have some City Staff here. I want to let them go. Do we have a Petitioner for item number 47? The only question you had between first and second reading is the location of the dog park. IT did not change. I think Ms. Pope has a full-size site plan she can show. I also have IT on my phone.

Lynn Hurtak 11:55:52AM

Great. If we could have the wolf up.

Lynn Hurtak 11:55:56AM

Thats what I thought. IT just didnt make IT on the plan. IT was actually incorrectly uploaded in the agenda today. So I had a moment of panic, but I communicated with staff and were all good. Here to answer questions.

Lynn Hurtak 11:56:11AM

Any questions? Anyone from the public wishing to speak to item 47? I have a motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor? Aye. Councilman Maniscalco, would you be willing to read this?

Guido Maniscalco 11:56:25AM

Absolutely. Ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, an ordinance rezoning property in the general vicinity of 5501, 5511, 5531, 5551, 5561 units 101-319, 5571 units 101-328, 5521 and 5541 north 22nd and 2302 and 2236 East Hillsborough Avenue in the City of Tampa, Florida and more particularly described in section 1 from zoning district classification, PD planned development to PD planned development, residential, multifamily, retail sales, specialty, convenience, and shoppers goods, personal services, business professional office and restaurant, providing an effective date.

Charlie Miranda 11:57:01AM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 11:57:02AM

I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilman Miranda. Please record your vote.

The Clerk 11:57:14AM

Motion carried with Viera, Carlson and Clendenin absent at vote.

Lynn Hurtak 11:57:18AM

Thank you very much. Can I get a motion to move items 31, 51, 52 and 59? We didnt do that yet? Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Thank you very much. We are now adjourned until 1:30. [ sounding gavel [lunch recess]

Lynn Hurtak 01:33:10PM

Roll call, please.

Charlie Miranda 01:33:12PM

Here.

Guido Maniscalco 01:33:14PM

Here.

Lynn Hurtak 01:33:15PM

Here.

Naya Young 01:33:16PM

Here.

Bill Carlson 01:33:18PM

Here.

Clerk 01:33:19PM

You have a quorum.

Lynn Hurtak 01:33:21PM

Thank you so much. So we are moving on to the 1:30 public hearings. So Staff for public hearing, item number 49.

Guido Maniscalco 01:33:29PM

Move to open the 1:30 public hearing.

Lynn Hurtak 01:33:35PM

Motion to open 1:30 public hearing from Council Member Maniscalco. Seconded from Council Member Miranda. All in favor, say aye. Opposed. Lets do oaths. If you are here to speak to item 49 at all, please stand, and even if you think you are not but you are here for that item, please stand and raise your right hand. Thank you. [Swearing in]

Camaria Pettis-Mackle 01:34:13PM

Thank you very much. Camaria Pettis-Mackle for the review for file no. De1-25-160-c for the property located at 4001 East Hillsborough Avenue. This is a de novo hearing that is before you. City Council should have your packets that contain the rules of procedure in order to conduct this review hearing. IT should also contain code section 27-61, which is the review hearing process that governs this matter. Also, I provided a sample motion regarding this item. But as I previously stated code section 27-61, a de novo review hearing, which means City Council can receive new evidence regarding this the matter. After hearing from staff and from the petitioner regarding this matter, City Council can either affirm the decision of the Zoning Administrator or overturn the decision of the Zoning Administrator. And the sample motion gives you some guidance. I also included in the sample motion the criteria in 27-60, subsections e-5, that shall be used in order to determine whether or not to affirm or deny the -- the application -- the request by the petitioners. Im here if you have any questions, but with that, I will turn IT over to Mr. Cotton, who will be here -- who will present why this application was denied.

Lynn Hurtak 01:35:50PM

Thank you very much. Before we go any further, I am sorry, I forgot to do number two in this -- in the procedures.

Martin Shelby 01:35:59PM

Number two is to ask if anybody has any verbal ex-parte communications they need to disclose at this time. Otherwise we can make a motion to receive and file the written requests. If there is a motion?

Lynn Hurtak 01:36:16PM

Do I have a motion? And You are --

Martin Shelby 01:36:19PM

Sorry, I am, Martin Shelby, City Council attorney.

Lynn Hurtak 01:36:23PM

A motion from council member Viera, who has joined US. Do I have a second?

Charlie Miranda 01:36:29PM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 01:36:30PM

A second from council member Miranda to receive all written materials, if any. So all in favor. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Thank you very much. Now we are ready for Mr. Cotton. Apologies.

Eric Cotton 01:36:43PM

Good afternoon, Council, Eric Cotton, land Development Coordination. This is an appeal of design exception 25-160 for the property at 4001 East Hillsborough Avenue. So the petitioner and property owner is New Plaza LLC, agent is Civil Design Engineering. Wants to build a brand-new shopping center on the property 01:37:18pm and asking for the design exception process an administrative review by City Staff. They asked for three things. One, to allow the front setback to be a maximum of 138 feet, the principal facade tonot to face a Public Street, and to allow parking in the front yard. If I show the site plan, IT will make IT a little more clear for you all. This is the property, of course, on 40th. This is hillsborough, the southwest -- the southeast intersection. This is the code requirements for the design exception that is probably in the packet that you all received. These are the code exceptions. So these are all part of the East Tampa overlay district, if you all recall, was originally adopted in 2000, 2001, and has been amended periodically about two years ago before the publicly initiated text amendments were removed. East Tampa came in and asked for changes. We did a front yard setback now as a Build-To zone, between 10 and 12 feet for residential -- commercial uses. Building facade and entry ways have to face The Public Street and parking located in the rear or side yard. This is the -- this is the site plan as presented as part of downtown design exception. This is the proposed building. Parking is in the front. Entrance off of hillsborough. And entrance off of north 40th. Staffs position is that -- I am not an engineer. I am not an architect. But the staffs position is that the property can be flipped to a degree. I apologize for the lack of professionalism on my drawing here, but the Staff position is that the building could be flipped and a different design could be utilized to bring the building up close ,which is the intent of the overlay district to make IT more pedestrian-friendly and meet the 10- to 12-foot setback. Put the parking toward the rear. And IT would have the front door to be definitely Facing The Street and not having a parking lot in between. That is the end of my presentation. Does Council have any questions for me?

Lynn Hurtak 01:39:31PM

Council Member Maniscalco.

Eric Cotton 01:39:32PM

Yes, Sir.

Guido Maniscalco 01:39:33PM

This right now is an empty parking lot with a Check Cashing Site on IT. Is that the site?

Eric Cotton 01:39:40PM

The Check Cashing Site is at the corner. Not part of their site. IT is carved out.

Guido Maniscalco 01:39:46PM

Historically, was there is a Grocery Store there? What was -- that is a big lot. I dont know.

Eric Cotton 01:39:52PM

Dont recall what was there. I am sure the Applicant can tell you what was there historically. I dont know the answer to that.

Guido Maniscalco 01:39:59PM

Maybe a Car Dealership.

Eric Cotton 01:40:01PM

A large site, almost 20,000 square feet.

Guido Maniscalco 01:40:05PM

Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 01:40:07PM

Anyone else. Okay, Petitioner. Im sorry -- so, yes, presentation by the Petitioner. I am the owner of the property on hillsborough and 40th. Bought the property about ten years ago, free and clear. IT had a grocery store where I ended up losing that building. I was the landlord of the property. Didnt own the grocery store. IT got burned down five years ago. Tenants were there. I had insurance, full coverage insurance. He did not cooperate with me about fixing some of the electric. I ended up -- I was out of the country. I ended up losing insurance at that time. So I had -- he made me lose the insurance. Three weeks after, one month after, the whole building caught on fire. I had to come back. And the city after a while -- so I ended up losing everything. I did not get a dollar from the insurance. I came back, and then with the burn, the city asked me, please, we need for you to demolish IT because IT doesnt look good. When I bought the property, I have a dream. I am an owner with a lot of shopping centers. I own a lot In Temple Terrace and around Florida. I had a dream for this property with the lease going to go up with the grocery store, I was going to demolish IT and rebuild IT again, but I ended up losing -- I fought the case and cost me $700,000 to $800,000 attorney fees trying to get my building back. Why the building got burned. He made me lose the insurance. Came up with zero. I lost everything. I did not get a dollar but $700,000 for the attorney fees that I have proof of that. To make a long story short, I wanted to build the plaza. I had a dream. I own a Cash Checking Place. But they have a lease up to, I think, 2031. Ace Check Cashing Place. So I came back and said I would do a l-shaped plaza Facing That Way on 40th. If you want me to get as close as possible to hillsborough to make IT look -- to stand out. I was going -- ready to build IT. I didnt have to go to the bank. I am ready to rebuild IT, and I want to make this corner honestly -- I am a real estate guy beside the 300 locations I own around the country. I know the retail is very good experience with retail. I wanted to make this corner stand out. To make a long story short, I wanted to do the project. I truly want to do IT facing the sidewalk especially on that corner like that. I will be honest with you, I can only talk about my experience. IT would give me 60% chance or maybe 55% for me to fail, for me to grab the right tenants in there. You have to have the right tenants. I own shopping centers on fowler with foot locker, Jimmy John's, all that stuff. I was going to get the best retail location of these tenants and get this corner to stand out over on hillsborough. I have the experience. And I was hoping to get IT approved, if we can, because I am ready to do the project. And I think this is going to -- for the past three years, IT had nothing but issues. One person from my office just to keep visiting vacant sites I own around the city, because we have nothing but issues. We had to call the Police so many times trying to get this person out from selling this or this guy is parking his 18-wheelers or whatever, whatever. So, yeah, that -- so I hope if we can make this happen, I was ready to get the project going.

Lynn Hurtak 01:43:47PM

Council member Maniscalco. -- sorry, do you have anything else?

Lynn Hurtak 01:43:53PM

Okay. Council Member Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco 01:43:57PM

The building that was there that burned down, how did IT face? Set back on the property facing hillsborough? So all the parking was in the front.

Guido Maniscalco 01:44:08PM

Facing hillsborough is where the parking was? That is where the parking was. I think IT was a Winn-Dixie back then. I dont know what happened, but when I purchased IT, IT was more like a local supermarket. I was just leasing IT out. And what happened with that building, I ended up losing IT. Aside from the property -- I bought IT free and clear, and I did not get a dikkar out of IT. Since then I am up to the property because one of the famous properties I wanted to own for a long, long time honestly. Tampa happened, what happened. And the building got burned. And I just want to rebuild a brand-new building. Kind of sits high and honestly -- I am not going to go The Cheap Way to build that building. IT will be something very nice and will stand out.

Lynn Hurtak 01:44:55PM

Anyone else with questions? So I have a question.

Lynn Hurtak 01:45:00PM

What is your actual reason for not being able to meet these requirements? There is a code that says you have to meet these requirements. You havent given US any reason why you cant. Just that you dont want to. That. I figured that would be the right retail. Ace doesnt want to give up their location. They said this is one of our best locations. Second, We own -- We own over 300 locations around the country that other sources -- I picked up from other landlords where I created my sales out of IT. IT was one of the lowest -- lowest production stores and customers want to face -- depends also on the neighborhood. So each area would be a little bit different. I feel like I am going to have a huge risk of leasing the spaces compared to having IT The Other Way which I have the right tenants to move forward today. This is 100% my experience.

Lynn Hurtak 01:46:07PM

But you -- thats not an actual reason that we can use. Finances arent a reason that we can use to -- Me to -- to be excited to make my move, that is The Only Way I can guarantee that the Tenants to come -- to come and sign leases compared to -- to other ways. I kind of saw IT in other cities. IT was never -- to Me, thats never successful when IT came to retail.

Lynn Hurtak 01:46:37PM

But --

Lynn Hurtak 01:46:41PM

Again, but, again, finances have nothing to do with this. We can not consider finances.

Lynn Hurtak 01:46:47PM

We can only consider, you know, reasonable -- I mean, we can only consider what the design exception -- or what the East Tampa overlay is. I will let Council Member Young, do you want to --

Naya Young 01:47:09PM

I guess -- I am trying -- I want to hear what exactly is IT that the -- Mr. Cotton had put the photo up where you are just taking the building and putting IT on the other side. Why cant you do that? Is there -- to fit in with the overlay. So East Tampa overlay is there -- IT is there for a reason. So im just trying to understand why cant you just apply or comply with what the Overlay District has and do IT This Way? To put the parking in the back. Because just -- be switching building, one, this is what East Tampa community wants. They want corridors that are pedestrian-friendly. They want to walk up into the space. Im trying to figure out what is IT that you just cant do what is here? I want to redevelop my property. They have a small portion, but they also have a lease. They came back and they -- his attorney came back and said that -- for you to have also something close to my building like that, I have a right to come back and sue you if I -- if I feel like I am going to -- going to lose business and stuff look that. So having IT also close to that, that could create a huge issue with me with ace, comparing me sending IT down far away from them where I can start my project right away.

Lynn Hurtak 01:48:45PM

Mr. Cotton, I have a question for you?

Eric Cotton 01:48:53PM

Yes, maam.

Lynn Hurtak 01:48:53PM

What are the required setbacks between them and the property on the corner?

Eric Cotton 01:49:00PM

Not the same zoning law. This is -- as far as I know, this is a zoned parcel ID. There is no -- a building separation by the fire code, which is probably -- I know for residential is five feet. I dont know what IT is for commercial. Five to ten feet probably between --

Lynn Hurtak 01:49:19PM

That is completely legal using the setbacks that 01:49:21pm are required by code?

Eric Cotton 01:49:23PM

Correct, the setbacks required by code required by the property lines that IT is on.

Lynn Hurtak 01:49:29PM

Correct. Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. Anyone in the public that wishes to speak to this item? Are you a part of the team?

Lynn Hurtak 01:49:45PM

That is not public comment, but You have plenty of time yet if You would like to speak, You can speak, but part of that 15 minutes. You are welcome to speak but not public comment. IT is part of the presentation.

Lynn Hurtak 01:50:00PM

Please start with your name. Sorry, how much time do they have left? Five minutes and 35 seconds. Please start with your name. Good afternoon, everyone, my name is Alejandro Bosch. I am the civil engineer helping him on this project. We started the design initially. We came up with this alternative. We discussed with the City the hurdles we were going to have, not complying with the code. And there are reasons, technical reasons why we didnt want to just shift the building on the other side. One of them was on the south side, there is an easement, currently an easement, we will need to have two points of access as required by the fire code. We will need to go over that easement. That could be a problem. On the other side, we are going to be encroaching into the neighbors if we shift the driveway toward the east side. We will be encroaching toward the neighborhood property line, and certain distance since you are in East Hillsborough Avenue, certain distance we need to comply with the driveways. This could create a problem in terms of internal traffic circulation for vehicles, and -- and garbage trucks to pick up the -- the trash and so on and so forth. And quite frankly, generally speaking, all the retail I have seen, basically, they have the parking in front and the building on the rear, most of them. I understand the concern from the financial standpoint. And I know this is not a point of discussion here, but I think overall IT should be taken into consideration. IT is a combination. Currently, right now, the City Of Tampa is not collecting too much tax money on this property. If we bring this development in, IT will -- IT will bring a good chunk of tax to the City as well. So, you know, other things that could be problematic with this layout marked in blue will be minimum distance between existing building and the proposed building. Reduction of parking. Because this configuration, IT will be -- the amount of parking that we can have is pretty much less. So those are the things to consider and why we did the Layout The Way IT was done. Yes, that is pretty much IT. Thank you so much for your time.

Lynn Hurtak 01:52:45PM

Okay. Is there anyone actually in the public who wishes to speak on this item? Sounds a whole lot of I want what I want to d, and I dont give a crap of what your rules are. That is what IT sounds like to me. The Gentleman sat here and said he has got Code Enforcement issues all over town. Having to run people off of his other vacant lots. So he wants to set this Up The Way he wants to set IT up, and he doesnt give a crap what the people in the community wanted. I mean, I didnt say IT, he said IT. So, I -- I think that -- if the folks from East Tampa were actually here, they would say we set up the overlay for a reason, and we asked for this for a reason, and this guy just wants to do what he wants to do. Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 01:53:37PM

Staff. Anything additional that you would like to say?

Eric Cotton 01:53:42PM

No, maam, im here for questions.

Lynn Hurtak 01:53:45PM

Please push that up. Thank you. You are good. You can take that. Okay, anything else from the applicant for petitioner? You have five minutes if you would like to respond. Please start again with your name. Having the property Shaping That Way. And one thing more about the Ace, I know IT is not financial, but Ace, for me to start my property, they have up to 2031 on their lease. I cannot pull that. For me to do IT The Way you guys want IT, there Is No Way I can move with IT. You see the building and how IT sits. And I have a letter from them, from their attorney when We tried to do the project two years ago before We knew all that was going to happen. They pretty much are concerned with the person handling a lot of the stuff for me. He was the one dealing with them. They made sure that they said if We find out an interruption or if you lock US up or whatever -- they say We cant create our own, We have the rights to go back to you and -- to be -- you know, to -- whatever the money they feel like they loss. Truly, I want to do the project, but I dont want to be Fighting In Court with other tenants and stuff like that. When We did that, We keep -- We even promised them in the near future that when your lease is up, if you wanted to take one of the corners on other side, We will be willing to do that. We have that approved on paper. So I just cant -- there Is No Way I can move forward with this project having them cornered like that. They are not going to agree. And next thing We will have a Fight In Court with their attorney about US locking them from having the business in there. So that is something as you see, when you see IT on the picture. We almost slide them up in the corner like that. There is no weigh We can do the project. If We wish IT back The Other Way around, definitely still going to have the access point. Customer by the store and Leave The Way IT is shaped.

Lynn Hurtak 01:55:55PM

Okay, thank you. I have a question for Legal.

Camaria Pettis-Mackle 01:55:58PM

Camaria Pettis-Mackle from the Legal Department.

Lynn Hurtak 01:56:07PM

They are talking about another Property Owner saying that They cant do something with their own property. As long as They follow the code with the City Of Tampa.

Camaria Pettis-Mackle 01:56:19PM

I cant speak to what he is talking about. I dont know what -- I cant speak to that.

Lynn Hurtak 01:56:25PM

Okay.

Camaria Pettis-Mackle 01:56:28PM

You are only confined to the City Of Tampa code and those regulations.

Lynn Hurtak 01:56:33PM

Our code is the code. And You cant sue for not -- anyway. Appreciate IT. Any -- okay. So Applicant, Petitioner, You are finished with your rebuttal? Okay. So do I have a motion to close?

Luis Viera 01:56:56PM

So moved.

Guido Maniscalco 01:56:57PM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 01:57:00PM

All in favor, say aye okay. Okay. Council member Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco 01:57:11PM

So I want to make a motion to overturn the denial. Let me tell you why. Why this property is unique. The reason I asked what was on the property before, and IT was that Grocery Store that was set back with the parking lot in the front like we traditionally see. But that building burned down. Had that building not burned down, that building would exist in its current configuration and look what He is trying to do not in an l-shaped but not to the overlay standards.

Lynn Hurtak 01:57:39PM

But the building burnt down.

Guido Maniscalco 01:57:42PM

But if the building would not have burned down, IT would not have adhered to the East Tampa overlay standards.

Lynn Hurtak 01:57:48PM

Yeah, but --

Guido Maniscalco 01:57:51PM

Grandfathered in.

Lynn Hurtak 01:57:52PM

But IT is not. IT is just not.

Guido Maniscalco 01:57:55PM

That is my motion.

Lynn Hurtak 01:57:56PM

Okay, go for IT.

Guido Maniscalco 01:57:58PM

Move to overturn the Zoning Administrator's denial at file no. De1-25-160-c for 4001 East Hillsborough Avenue because the Petitioner provided competent and substantial evidence to grant the request to allow the front yard setback to be a maximum of 138 feet to allow the principal front facade to not face the public right-of-way and allow parking in the front yard because the ask meets the criteria in 27-606 for the following reasons: sand another -- before I get into that. That corner property he says has the lease to 2031 has nothing to do with this, but you have an existing building on that corner. And I think that makes IT unique. Not just an empty -- completely empty lot. Lets see here. So the petition for -- the Petitioner must be an aggrieved person as defined in this chapter who participated by timely submitting evidence or by otherwise providing sworn testimony, the original application process for which the decision was rendered. So we have some unique situations. First, you have that corner parcel where the Check Cashing Place is at. That, I think, would obstruct the new development and the l-shape that was provided the alternative by Mr. Cotton. Second, the original building that was there, Grocery Store or whatever IT was, IT sat back on the property with the parking lot going All The Way to hillsborough. If that building would not are burned down, this property will look like when IT was as winn-dixie and stayed like that with a different or new tenant. Because of that -- if IT was just an empty lot and trying to reconfigure IT, to be different. But IT is always has been a commercial lot that served Community and a Grocery Store and in this case sat empty. Burnt down. Demolished. I hate to see an empty lot on a busy commercial corridor Like Hillsborough Avenue. IT should be like a Dale Mabry. An unit where we can bring life to the parcel. Pawn shop Across The Street that serves the Community. Check cashing Across The Street or on the property serves the Community. Again, that -- those are my reasons.

Lynn Hurtak 02:00:15PM

Do we have --

Luis Viera 02:00:17PM

I will second IT.

Lynn Hurtak 02:00:18PM

Okay. So I have a motion by council member Maniscalco and a second by council member Viera. Is there any -- anybody wish to speak to that?

Naya Young 02:00:29PM

I do not agree. I think that -- especially knowing -- literally, I was just at a meeting -- I was speaking with people from East Tampa, community members. They want to activate those corridors. To have spaces where you can walk up to, you know, businesses. And -- and the East Tampa overlay, IT is there for a reason, regardless whether what was there before. To Councilwoman Hurtak's point, IT is not anymore. IT is not there. East Tampa overlay district, as Mr. Cotton was saying, IT is to make IT more petitioned-friendly. This is not pedestrian-friendly. So I -- whatever was there before, I dont agree. East Tampa overlay district is there for is a reason. Thats why we have IT In Place. And the more that we can abide by IT, we should do that.

Lynn Hurtak 02:01:23PM

Anyone else? Okay. I will say, again, this is completely inappropriate. The overlay has asked to -- for future buildings to be built to the correct -- to have buildings up front, parking in the back. This is exactly what happened with the West Tampa overlay and we decided to ignore IT. We cant do that again to East Tampa. That -- I am sorry This Person doesnt want to build IT, but they can build IT. IT is a choice. And they are choosing not to follow the city code.

Naya Young 02:02:00PM

And I will -- sorry.

Lynn Hurtak 02:02:03PM

Go ahead, Councilwoman.

Naya Young 02:02:06PM

I think IT is great that we develop this lot. IT is a empty lot. I do not want IT to stand as an empty lot. But at some point -- IT is not hard for just do IT The Right Way or whatever. IT is not hard to do IT The Right Way.

Lynn Hurtak 02:02:23PM

Excuse me, I am sorry. You are not allowed to speak. This is a closed hearing.

Naya Young 02:02:29PM

Great to develop the land, but do IT The Way the Community wants IT to be done.

Lynn Hurtak 02:02:33PM

Okay, anyone else want to speak? Council member Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 02:02:37PM

Only question I have in my mind, and I understand about the overlay, but when you talk about walking up, how many residents do we have in 4001 East Hillsborough Avenue?

Lynn Hurtak 02:02:51PM

People live behind that. Yeah, that is where the neighbors are.

Charlie Miranda 02:02:56PM

I am asking a question and looking for an answer.

Lynn Hurtak 02:03:00PM

Would you like me to reopen the hearing?

Charlie Miranda 02:03:04PM

No.

Lynn Hurtak 02:03:04PM

Anyone else? Okay. We have a motion by Council Member Maniscalco. A second by Council Member Viera. Roll call, please.

Charlie Miranda 02:03:11PM

No.

Guido Maniscalco 02:03:12PM

Yes.

Lynn Hurtak 02:03:13PM

No.

Naya Young 02:03:15PM

No.

Luis Viera 02:03:16PM

Yes.

Bill Carlson 02:03:18PM

No.

Clerk 02:03:20PM

Motion fails.

Lynn Hurtak 02:03:24PM

Can you please read the record.

Clerk 02:03:28PM

Motion fails with Miranda, Hurtak, Young, and Carlson voting no. And Clendenin absent at vote. Sorry about that.

Lynn Hurtak 02:03:41PM

That motion doesnt pass. Can someone else try another motion?

Guido Maniscalco 02:03:50PM

The motion to uphold the denial.

Lynn Hurtak 02:03:52PM

Give IT and People can add if they want to.

Naya Young 02:03:56PM

So, I motion to uphold the denial. I move to affirm the Zoning Administrator's denial of file no. De1-25-160-c for the property located at 4001 East Hillsborough Avenue because the Petitioner failed to provide competent and substantial evidence to grant the request to allow the front yard setback to be a maximum of 138 feet to allow the principal front facade to not face the public right-of-way and allow parking in the front yard because the requests do not meet the criteria outlined in the City Of Tampa code section 27-60 for the following reasons. Does not follow the East Tampa overlay district.

Lynn Hurtak 02:04:43PM

Sure.

Naya Young 02:04:44PM

And ensuring -- or, you know, to make the corridor more pedestrian-friendly. Thats enough. Okay.

Martin Shelby 02:04:59PM

Did They meet their burden necessary to show -- to be able to overturn -- did They provide evidence to meet their burden?

Lynn Hurtak 02:05:10PM

Did they provide any evidence --

Naya Young 02:05:13PM

Not for me. No.

Martin Shelby 02:05:14PM

Okay.

Lynn Hurtak 02:05:16PM

Do we have a second?

Bill Carlson 02:05:21PM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 02:05:21PM

A second from councilman Carlson. I will add an amendment that the -- the exceptions are not consistent with -- with the East Tampa overlay, and that they interfere with the rights of others. And actually, never mind. Thats okay. Anyone who wishes to speak on this? Okay. So I have a motion from Council Member Young. I have a second from Council Member Miranda. Roll call -- sorry, Viera -- no, Carlson. I apologize, carson. Roll call, please.

Guido Maniscalco 02:06:09PM

No.

Naya Young 02:06:10PM

Yes.

Luis Viera 02:06:15PM

No.

Bill Carlson 02:06:16PM

Yes.

Charlie Miranda 02:06:18PM

Yes.

Lynn Hurtak 02:06:19PM

Yes.

Clerk 02:06:24PM

Motion carried with Maniscalco and Viera voting no and Clendenin absent at vote.

Guido Maniscalco 02:06:32PM

He will be right back.

Lynn Hurtak 02:06:35PM

Thank you very much. We are moving on to item 50. Including in item 50 -- sorry, administration update is item number 27, talk about pier at, I think, palonis park. We will have that part of the discussion. Is Mr. Fowler available?

Ted Fowler 02:07:10PM

Yes, im here.

Lynn Hurtak 02:07:11PM

Great. Sorry. They just dont have the camera on. There you are.

Ted Fowler 02:07:15PM

How are you yall doing.

Lynn Hurtak 02:07:18PM

Doing well. Thank you so much.

Lynn Hurtak 02:07:20PM

Mr. Fowler.

Ted Fowler 02:07:43PM

Yes, im here.

Lynn Hurtak 02:07:44PM

You are supposed to be talking on an administrative update on piers?

Ted Fowler 02:07:50PM

I can update you on picnic island pier. We -- I did check, and We do, in fact, have instruments on that particular pier. So We have an instrument, a Parts Maintenance Supervisor, tomorrow morning at 10:30 to start the process.

Lynn Hurtak 02:08:06PM

Great.

Ted Fowler 02:08:07PM

When I have an update, I will give you more informationbut right now They will go out and in the IT and see what the damage is and we will go from there.

Lynn Hurtak 02:08:15PM

Great. Tni, can you have Mr. Fowler up on screen? Always nice to see people. Yes, just a second. There we go. Go right ahead, Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 02:08:28PM

Mr. Fowler, thank you for meeting with several of US couple of days ago about piers. Can you just, in 30 seconds, tell the public what is happening with Ballast Point pier 2 because im getting so many requests. You told US the other day, and I have been giving answers to folks and tell everybody.

Ted Fowler 02:08:50PM

I will refer to Mr. Mutterback or Mike Perry is on line, andthey can fill you in.

Lynn Hurtak 02:08:54PM

Mr. Mutterback? Oh, Mr. Perry.

Bill Carlson 02:09:01PM

Mr. Perry, just asking if you can give the public a 30-second update where we are on Ballast Point, and how long IT will tack to get IT repaired or replaced.

Lynn Hurtak 02:09:15PM

Unfortunately, we can not hear you, Mr. Perry.

Charlie Miranda 02:09:20PM

Like a Pilot at southwest.

Bill Carlson 02:09:43PM

Says green. You might want to test.

Michael Perry 02:09:47PM

Test, test. Sorry about that.

Lynn Hurtak 02:09:49PM

No worries.

Michael Perry 02:09:50PM

Mike Perry, chief deputy financial officer. Yes, we are working with FEMA on obtaining authorization to proceed on the repairs of Ballast Point pier. On September 26, the City Of Tampa requested a replacement and requested 50% on September 26. Since then, we have not heard until two days ago. FEMA changed their local management in January. They seemed to be much more responsive. But, again, we expect to receive money from FEMA, we are going to have -- we are going to have to abide by their rules. This project and even to fire station 17 is considered a major project under FEMA rules. A major project is one that costs more than $1 million. So they will be reviewing every step of our big process. How we select the design bid firm or the architects and everything else. I am afraid IT is going to be a very slow process before we get this -- the pier rebuilt, repaired, rebuilt.

Bill Carlson 02:11:04PM

Short answer for the public is that the delay has been because You have to get FEMA approval, because FEMA is helping to fund IT.

Bill Carlson 02:11:19PM

Can you give US an estimate of how long IT will take to repair IT?

Michael Perry 02:11:26PM

We -- Staff went through a short listing of the Design-Build Firm. So We have short listed that. Now, We are just waiting for FEMA to come on board and review our processes. Like any design bid -- design build project, IT will probably take a year to 18 months to design and maybe up to two years to construct. Dont hold me to that. I am not a Pier Engineer. But IT will be a -- probably about -- going between three to four years.

Bill Carlson 02:12:01PM

Thank you. I think IT is better to tell People what -- what IT might be and then if IT ends up being shorter, that is better. But folks can think IT can be easily repaired within a couple of months. And IT is going to be a long process. And picnic island is out. People are really upset about IT.

Michael Perry 02:12:24PM

Mr. Carson, we are not talking of repairing IT. We are talking of replacing IT.

Bill Carlson 02:12:29PM

That is the thing. People think you can just go in and fix IT. And then, Mr. Fowler, can I ask you one question? For the folks in South Tampa, south of Gandy, where will you recommend they go for another pier in the city?

Ted Fowler 02:12:47PM

In South Tampa, that is a good question. I know IT is saltwater -- fresh water fishing, but we are doing the best that we can. Im meeting with Insurance Adjuster tomorrow and I hope, picnic island.

Bill Carlson 02:13:04PM

Other Parks in the city You can recommend?

Ted Fowler 02:13:07PM

They can go off of the pier of Desoto Park and Palmetto Beach. Al Lopez Park has fishing piers. Williams Park has fishing materials. Gaston Park has a new fishing -- floating dock they can go to.

Bill Carlson 02:13:27PM

I can meet you with you off-line but May put a sign on each one of these or on a web site and give IT to the Neighborhood Associations. People have a lot of choices. We have beautiful Parks all over the city. Even though not one ten minutes away but within 30 minutes they can get to a very nice one. Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 02:13:46PM

Thank you. I have a question for possibly Mr. Perry andor Mr. Fowler. So the City Of Tampa put out a news release in early September that basically said that, you know, they are going to put full-strength in the piling, the plumbing, electrical systems will also can upgraded and all pier boards will be placed. Fish cleaning stations will be better than ever. Next step is the competitive solicitation process to hire a design-build team for probably and design sand construction will follow. Doesnt give an estimated completion date and went ahead and dug up the design-build RFQ. Looks like the RFQ for $14 million to $17 million and we have like looks like one, two, three, four, five, six contracting companies. I mean in this -- in this press release, never talks about FEMA. Did we at one time believe that FEMA was no going to fund this? Mr. Perry, you are muted again. Nope. Nope. Nope. Unfortunately, we still cannot hear you. You have a green light, but for whatever reason.

Michael Perry 02:15:44PM

Can you hear me now?

Lynn Hurtak 02:15:47PM

Now We can hear you, great.

Michael Perry 02:15:49PM

Okay, essentially, Hurricane Helene and Milton, Ballast Point pier was always a project destined to be funded by FEMA. IT has been our approach ever since.

Lynn Hurtak 02:16:04PM

Again, I would just -- this entire piece that was sent -- sent out doesnt mention the fact we would have to wait for FEMA. I think that would be something hopefully in the future that is something that could be mentioned. Because, I mean, the title of this "project to restore the Ballast Point pier has begun." Giving people the impression IT is coming soon. If we hadnt asked questions, we would still be I waiting. Additionally, this kind of flows right into the conversation with item number 27. Thank you so much, Mr. Fowler, for talking about the insurance. IT is great to hear that. But candy and palonis park improvements, IT clearly says there was supposed to be a dock and all of this stuff, and especially now the two docks in South Tampa that people cannot reach because -- you know, in they have gone into disrepair. The idea of having this dock is so important. Can you please speak to the fact that in the initial design, there was supposed to be a pier, supposed to be all these amenities that are no longer on this plan. Can you -- can you speak to that? And how you plan to make this whole? Because that is still what the community is expecting.

Ted Fowler 02:17:26PM

I can speak to the fact that We have $300,000 contingency and that is to make sure that We can have IT installed and the sewer System The Way IT needsto be. We dont anticipate spending IT all and exactly where We will put the dock amenity in. If We do fall short, We will Find Some Way in our budget to make that whole. But We are very confident that We wont spend that $200,000. And set IT aside just in case. As We have seen like Saturday, things could change in a minute. We would never expect IT to fall into the bay, but We are erring on the side of caution, and We feel that We will be able to provide that dock amenity for the public.

Lynn Hurtak 02:18:16PM

Anyone? Yes, council member Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 02:18:23PM

If I May -- I know a lot them saying park in South Tampa. Maybe in South Tampa, but I guarantee you IT is used by a lot of people in South Tampa. I remember going fishing there when I was a kid 122 years ago. [Laughter]

Lynn Hurtak 02:18:38PM

So what you are saying is the dock itself and the kayak launch and all of the other things that -- that were promised but are not in here are only going to cost $200,000?

Ted Fowler 02:18:50PM

No, what I am saying We have a $200,000 contingency. And the fact We feel very confident We are not going to use IT and supplement that with the dock. I am not aware of what another things were cut. I know that We -- as I mentioned before, a water fountain. We will have a water fountain. I confirmed that. And the dock will have lights. The bathrooms dont need lights, because the park closes at sunset, but what We will have is -- star light in the bathroom to provide visibility during the park operation hours.

Lynn Hurtak 02:19:26PM

Okay. Anyone else? Okay. Do we have a motion to move this substitute resolution?

Guido Maniscalco 02:19:38PM

So moved.

Charlie Miranda 02:19:41PM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 02:19:41PM

Motion and a second. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed.

Martin Shelby 02:19:45PM

Item 27?

Lynn Hurtak 02:19:47PM

Item number 27, thank you very much, for making a point of that. And now we are moving on to item 53. Thank you so much, Mr. Fowler.

Ted Fowler 02:19:59PM

Thank you.

Martin Shelby 02:20:00PM

Item 31, Madam Chair.

Lynn Hurtak 02:20:05PM

We already passed item 31 before lunch. Yep. I believe item 53 and 54 sort of go together.

Emma Gregory 02:20:20PM

Good afternoon, Council, Emma Gregory, Legal Department. Im here for item number 53. And then --

Bill Carlson 02:20:34PM

Can I make a suggestion?

Lynn Hurtak 02:20:35PM

Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 02:20:37PM

I would -- we have had several updates over the years about how there is a plan and -- and the staff meet with the -- with the -- some of folks in downtown. But folks in downtown are all upset about the plan. Nobody can get through. There is gridlock. Long-term preference being given to pedestrians instead of cars at the turn underneath the convention center that doesnt work because IT backs up the traffic right away. We talked of this four or five times. Cumberland coming out of the garage so you cant get to the selmon. Police cars are there, and they direct people to the arena when they are trying to get out of arena. I would like make a that motion to create an ordinance that prohibits City Staff from blocking roads or blocking traffic without City Council's prior approval per event. The Administration seems wanting to correct this. And they put things in the document that is really defensive. Signed and sealed. New excuses for everything, shined and sealed. Like the red let at greco plaza which is unnecessary. You can pay an Engineer to put whatever you want, but we are a big city now. Tampa is a big city. We need a system that works. Blocking the roads for hoards of pedestrians to go by is not acceptable. Blocking traffic in South Tampa From Platt Street to Hyde Park is not acceptable or Bayshore. Vik Bhide -- I think he is an Engineer, I dont know, but he stated months ago that if we just allow the traffic lights of to work during events, we would be okay. But The Water Street people are not happy. Lightning are not happy. People attending events. We have to open the roads. Not that you pull out water streetm and you cant get on the selmon. Last time, I almost got redirected to the arena. I ended up in Ybor City to get out of downtown. IT is not acceptable to do that. We need to leave the roads open. IT takes two hours for people to get out because the roads are closed. And I dont know what Engineer is coming up with this idea, but IT is wrong. What we need to do is discuss them on a case-by-case basis. If the Mobility Staff or TPD wants to shut down roads other than emergency, they need to get City Council approval because public can weigh in. I can make a official motion, but if legal wants to respond to that. You May argue IT is an administrative thing, and we set ordinances all the time to prohibit. This shuts down the downtown. IT will destroy the business of our downtown and cause people not to want to live in downtown if we dont fix this. As soon as you are ready, I can make a motion if you would like.

Lynn Hurtak 02:23:34PM

I think -- I dont know with yall, you want to hear of staff for 53 and 54.

Emma Gregory 02:23:39PM

Well, Emma Gregory, Legal Department. I will talk of chapter 28, the special events code. And please bear with me, I am getting over a stomach bug. So I am doing my best here. Chapter 28, code of ordinances sets out the special event permit application review process and approval process. Part of application is submission of maintenance of traffic 02:24:14pm plan. All special events are unique. And all of these applications are unique. My understanding is that mobility staff and TPD review these maintenance traffic plans. And thats -- that is set out in the code that they are the ones to review and approve them. They can make requests, you know, based on the event, but once -- you know once the application is deemed complete and sufficient, IT comes to City Council for approval. So all of special event permits are approved by council. So there is currently a method in code to not approve them if they are not up to City Council -- you know, IT is in your discretion.

Lynn Hurtak 02:25:03PM

Council Member Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 02:25:04PM

Thank you. And you know I am not the smartest guy in math, but I can count to two. One and one equals two. Problem as I see IT is really a systemic problem of timing. IT takes a long time for People to get in, because They dont all arrive at the same time, right? However, reverse that, They all leave at the same time. So we have a problem that you have the same volumes of cars going in systematically little by little as They get there. People get off work. They leave the office or whatever. But They dont all arrive at the same time. IT seems like They do, but They dont. But when IT empties, no matter where IT is, every stadium and every event or every large venue exit at the same time. They do not arrive the same. Thats how I see IT around the stadium and how I see IT at the ice palace or benchmark. And that -- maybe I am incorrect, but when I go there, I -- I dont know why everybody else. I arrive when I arrive. So does everybody else. But when you leave, everybody leaves at the same time. Thats all I can say.

Bill Carlson 02:26:16PM

May I say something?

Lynn Hurtak 02:26:21PM

Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 02:26:22PM

To give you an idea, we have become a big city now. One night in December, I was at an art exhibition at the -- what is IT called, Element Hotel? Addition Hotel. And in the courtyard On Water Street. That event probably had been 1,000 people. In the courtyard, a winter wonderland event that had 2,000 or 3,000 people. Something at the ice palace for whatever IT is called that was Tampa Bay history center annual gala at the Marriott or jw. Marriott and other things going on. These events starting and stopping. Nobody can get out of town. People in harbour island that are stuck halfway down Bayshore. They cant get to the convention center to turn right. And people in South Tampa that want to get to downtown or get around downtown. But Platt Street and to some extent Kennedy and Bayshore are completely blocked. No excuse why Bayshore should be blocked. If Bayshore -- if IT is okay and normal that Bayshore should be blocked. We shouldnt build things downtown. Other cities dont shut down their roads like this. Ridiculous. Because people have to get out. What I want to do -- I read chapter 28, but I would like to add something on top of that that makes IT more explicit as an approval for shut down. I want to set up a deterrent for anybody to do this anymore. IT looks arbitrary. Engineers and traffic planners I talk to says IT Ridiculous The Way this is being done. I dont know why this is IT being done. Shortage of flavors. People need flavors all over the city and sending them up blocking roads that people should be able to get by. If I can see the selmon 100 yards where I am and turn around and go to ybor because someone arbitrary shut Off The Road, that is not acceptable. Problem -- I said IT many times before, the problem backed up to Bayshore, shutting down and limited pedestrians have gone by. You cant go through three traffic lights letting pedestrians go across and not let people turn right, because IT backs up everybody. And they do the same thing at Pam Iorio garage. IT is not acceptable to keep coming back every few months, and say we cant do everything, and IT is final. IT is not fine. People who live downtown and cant get to their houses. Businesses are suffering because they cant get to them. Water Street -- you cant get To Water Street most of the time because you get blocked before you get to the convention center.

Lynn Hurtak 02:29:07PM

Have you looked at any of these special event permits?

Bill Carlson 02:29:13PM

Yes.

Lynn Hurtak 02:29:14PM

One On Water Street. What are your thoughts On The Street closings that are supposed to happen? Item 22?

Bill Carlson 02:29:22PM

I want to Prohibit All Street closings.

Lynn Hurtak 02:29:25PM

Are There Street closings for that one?

Bill Carlson 02:29:29PM

I dont know; I dont remember.

Lynn Hurtak 02:29:31PM

I am just asking because Miss Gregory says the permits come to US, and IT is up to US. If we dont want these events, we shouldnt approve them.

Bill Carlson 02:29:41PM

What I am saying IT should be separated so a separate approval for their event.

Lynn Hurtak 02:29:48PM

Change the event merits if we choose, Miss Gregory?

Emma Gregory 02:29:53PM

IT is my understanding -- now, let me caveat by saying this is IT not my normal area the code. You could deny them here at Council, and then I think They May have an opportunity to amend their application to ameliorate the concerns and then They can come back. But as I said, this isnt my typical area of the code. But I have IT right here in front of me. If you dont mind, im going to do a little check.

Bill Carlson 02:30:27PM

Sorry to make You do this while You are sick.

Lynn Hurtak 02:30:31PM

I will allow Mr. Miranda and Mr. Maniscalco. We havent heard from either mobile for TPD, and I would like to hear from both them. Mr. Shelby.

Martin Shelby 02:30:41PM

Question -- Martin Shelby, City Council attorney. I know this is not Miss Gregory's area of expertise and neither is mine, but IT has come up in the past. And there has budget discussion whether special events permits should appear at all only agenda because of fact IT is really an administrative process and really no discretion. By the time IT gets to you, IT May be a time constraint because May be something coming the next week or two. And secondly, if they check all the boxes, there is really no basis in the code for being able to deny IT, which means IT can be acting perhaps arbitrary and capricious, and May have an economic impact on a variety ofsituations. I had this discussion request of legal in the past, and that is why we are where we are.

Lynn Hurtak 02:31:30PM

Council Member Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 02:31:31PM

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Lets look at the Selmon. IT was wonderful when IT first opened for the first two years. But guess what? IT is not wonderful no more, but you cant get in and out of IT. Just like streets. You have to wait in line and IT backs up itself. What happens to IT, antiquated before its time. So when you look at big cities like US around US that are much bigger than US, they May or May not have the same problems. You know why? They have a different members of transportation. The airport doesnt back up, to some degree. You park your car. You get on -- and you zoom right around -- right into the airport. But we cant do that because IT costs a lot of dinero, a lot money and that is what we really need. We need light rail. Buses if the bus goes up stuck in traffic just like everybody else. That is our problem. A good problem and a bad problem. So we have to solve IT by changing the mode of transportation. You needs more streetcars and light rail, because you are not Going Other Way. Buses are great in the '70s, '80s, and the '90s. But congestion has to got to the point where the vehicle doesnt move in traffic and not their fault. Abundance of people moving down because they dont like where they live at. Period. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 02:33:01PM

Mr. Campbell.

Brandon Campbell 02:33:04PM

Good afternoon, Council, Brandon Campbell, Director Of Mobility. Things to touch on than are related to this. Councilman Carlson mentioned a date in December. I dont know. This is the date that you referred to. We didnt have an event on Sunday the 14th, I believe. Where we had an event that caused additional traffic beyond what typical 5k run would do. And in our after-action review, I met with Chief Bercaw, and, you know, we learned from that particular instance, and we will not set up traffic control until that same manner in the future. So there are times when things are changing that we try something new, and sometimes IT works wetter than IT did on that day. We are constantly trying to evolve and address emerging challenges as they come up with special events. That is one thing. To Council Member Miranda's point. Of course, we are continuing to look at additional actions that are high-level large investment type of options. Regional Infrastructure Accelerator is looking at its downtown to airport connection. Of course, we have spoken to you all several different times of the potential to extend the streetcar into Tampa Heights. Arm there are some large scale city-focused efforts that -- that they will take a while to come to fruition, but they are being explored. In the interim -- in the near term, we have a few different projects that are not necessarily city LED, but the Expressway Authority, of course, will be Reconnecting Whiting Street over to meridian. Reconfiguring the ramps. One of the be issues that does come into play with special events, particularly With Water Street and at the arena, is that ramp, I believe IT is 6-a, a spur down to The Morgan Street intersection becomes problematic with high pedestrian volumes. One segment that does routinely get closed. That is going to be reconfigured. The ramp itself will be removed, and a new ramp will be built In Its Place up to whiting. That should help take some of the -- some of the traffic out of the hospital zone and into the -- more of the mid-part of downtown so IT can get in and out of that area. Of course, THEA is widening the selmon expressway from downtown to the south. That May have some mitigating influence on special events. Of course, that is not its primary intent, but we do expect when the expressway is flowing a little more freely for that to be a more attractive option to people that might otherwise get caught in some of the traffic that comes in special event time frames. And then last, I also wanted to mention, that I think that we previously had mentioned in this Council that we were looking at a downtown special events traffic study. That has been -- I think that is a commitment we made maybe 18 months ago or neighbor that time frame. We asked the Tpo to add that to their Uwpb, Unified Work Planning Program to address that from a higher-level perspective. We expect that to be -- if IT is funded, to be in fiscal '27. We placed that on the top of the list of priorities for them to consider. Of course, they are still in the process of making those final determinations. But should they choose not to fund that, we will go back to the drawing board and look for other opportunities to do high-level study of traffic downtown related to special events. Oh, one last thing I did not mention. Probably to a lesser extent will impact but will impact the even space. Walton to finley to meridian. Those will be right-in, right-out access points from meridian To Water Street. All of this will continue to draw some of that demand to the north, which will hopefully then alleviate concerns that you specifically mentioned that dont necessarily have that choice but less conflict in the southernly portion of the activity zone.

Bill Carlson 02:37:47PM

Can I ask one question?

Lynn Hurtak 02:37:51PM

Can we hear from TPD first? Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 02:37:55PM

We can ask TPD but I asked IT to Vik. He said the lights are timed correctly. If we let the lights go and dont block the streets, things will run more smoothly. I dont want to stop events. I know how important events are. But an event that closes Down The Street one day, yes. But on a regular night, when there are events, cumberland gets blocked, 100 meters away to go from the entrance. Can we just, in the meantime, before these studies are done let the lights go and Let People Drive? Even when we leave here some nights we cant IT -- I cant Department to Bayshore because IT is all blocked income that direction. Leave the Lights The Way they are. Leave the Roads The Way they are until a parade where you have to shut things down.

Brandon Campbell 02:38:47PM

Some of concerns you expressed were addressed by TPD. If we see issues with the traffic control plan and the response of motorists and pedestrians to the traffic control plan that Is In Place, they will step in and try to take control and manage from the field. That said, you know, I think where you might see -- I would say the most visibility response to -- to your suggestion is in particular with the outbound traffic from arena event. What you will see is a really very strong coordination for, say, northbound traffic on Florida or the rest of the grid. As an event represents out, there is a huge amount of pedestrian flow most of which basically a momentarily shutdown of vehicular traffic and once people sort of dissipate and get into their cars, you will see very good coordination from signal system. That said, if the pedestrian volume is -- is either too intense or not following the signals as timed, then the operation of those signals as they provide that message and provide the coordination to drivers, IT gets a little bit fuzzy because people might not be able to get past the flow of pedestrians. There is a definite time frame where the signal system work really well. There is sort of fuzzy or gray area where the interaction and the behavior of pedestrians and drivers May need some additional interaction by TPD. I will say have them speak to how they see that threshold playing out in the field as they are watching things unfold.

Bill Carlson 02:40:44PM

What You described, if You are in South Tampa to get to the event, People have to go to harbour island. To go to an event, an hour on Bayshore to get close to whatever IT is. When You leave, You cant back up on Bayshore. You Have To Drive All Thee Way past Gandy and take 275 to go over to dale mabry and go down. You shouldnt have to go. All that is doing is creating more congestion for other People and let People out through the normal routes.

Brandon Campbell 02:41:16PM

I could look at that specifically at the traffic control plan. When everybody is trying to get out, sometimes our best plans of traffic product setup and signal timing, gets overridden by people trying to get to The Same Place at the same time.

Guido Maniscalco 02:41:40PM

Thank you very much. This is why I walk everywhere. I park -- I am serious. I park at Armature Works and get to Davis Islands. I did the other day. Took me a little over the hour without having to Cross The Street. IT was interesting, and I go the a cup of coffee. Yeah, IT is frustrating do that up there. I never park At Water Street or in that area. I walk from here or somewhere else. Look if we look at extending streetcar beyond palm to columbus, that will help alleviate where people can go to these events, but with towards what Councilman Carlson is saying, so many narrow pathways down there. Yes, IT is walkable, but when IT comes to cars, IT is very tricky. People -- how far do you get harbor island and get home. Quicker To Drive to orlando only i-4 than to get. I will let him talk about the arena specifics. I wanted to touch on special event planning. I heard IT moments of time that we arbitrarily do things. I can assure you that my division that specializes in special events have numerous conversations with Brandon's Team. They are professionals. They are the traffic engineering. We are on the ground and know what plan works and doesnt work and rrlay the information to them to make better plans in the future. No arbitrarily doing anything when we are planning special events. Everything is done for a reason. Everything is done with a purpose. We are trying to do the best we can to create a welcoming environment that doesnt impact the community as any worse than IT has to. So I will let Captain Hill speak to the arena portion himself since he is over the arena and there every game. And we will come back for the other part, 54. I have been to the department for 19 years. The past 14 years, I had experience of working traffic or the supervisor or the incident commander at Amalie Arena -- or sorry, benchmark. I see the trajectory of traffic getting works. Working closely with Brandon and his team to make sure we are not doing things The Whole Way but work fluently. When IT comes to holding cars. We dont hold peds because we want to hold pedestrians. Actual volume. We have to hold the cars for their safety. So, we temporarily hold traffic for that reason. Traffic traveling eastbound at channelside is backed up and cant continue, we continue to hold them so they dont block to allow our peds Cross The Street safely. When IT comes to egress and outbound patterns, from traveling around the world and being at different stadiums. I would say we have one of the best egresses. We average 45 minutes getting everybody out. I cant think of one time we have been there an hour after an event to direct traffic out. Couple of things to help mitigate traffic in harbour island, but the right turn to franklin from channelside is a right turn only. People in harbour island know that. Cumberland Garage. You cant make a left turn to get to selmon. Relocated our Uber, Ride Share to Jefferson, that area is congested. Get them on meridian to get to the interstate. Different changes throughout the night in order to allow traffic to move more swiftly. Times IT goes against the MOT. To better the experience for the events.

Bill Carlson 02:46:02PM

You see -- I dont want to argue with you, but you are talking about being arbitrary. Brandon said that TPD makes the decision. TPD saves Brandon makes the decision. Putting Uber to get back to South Tampa seems like an arb decision. I understand if you have to temporary block roads. I am not talking about arena events. Headed west on cumberland they send you back to the arena after IT is over. Things can be opened again. The other thing is that there are multiple events going only in downtown. Events happening all Over The Place and traffic is done all the time. My request to you -- and I talked to Chief Bercaw about this the other day. My request that you all change this and open IT. And I brought IT up four times now. Thousands of people that live in downtown and harbour island would be here if I told them too. I am pleading with you guys, this is not Acceptable The Way IT is. Whatever I need to do to help you work with IT, let me know. People cant get to the restaurants Only Water Street. People in harbour island cant get to harbour island, something is wrong with the system. We have overbuilt downtown and dont front to prevent my more development downtown. That is the signal that we cant handle development because too many people. South Tampa gets blocked because of multiple events, IT is not acceptable. People cant get to an event, and they Have To Drive to come back to Tampa. Drive to West Tampa to get to South Tampa. That is not acceptable. Whatever I need to do to help you guys, I would like to do IT. This is something that im going to get more aggressive about, because this is putting -- this is an economic value, wasting thousands of hours of peoples time. IT angers people. And IT is hurting business. IT is not acceptable. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 02:48:10PM

Council member Miranda. Only time we have any hard closures at the end of the night. That one of the main thoroughfare is channelside. We have dozen of people. And completely unsafe to let traffic to continue with the light and pedestrian crossing signs to let the people to Cross The Street. Other than that, our roads are free. Is there redirection, absolutely. But hard complete closures are not done until the end of the night. Every single event we look at, we know what events will happening throughout the city. One of the security planners for the vast majority of the events that come through Tampa we generally -- we have a relationship with the private partners too. So a lot of times we do know some of the private events that are happening there. All of that is taken into account when we are doing plans with Brandon's Group. Are there changes sometimes that are made on the fly by law enforcement? Yes, absolutely. IT is to preserve public safety. To help people and pedestrians. But thats not done lightly, and we just dont arbitrarily do IT. There is a reason behind IT. We are always trying to improve our plans. We understand -- we understand the traffic issues. We understand the impact IT has on the community. All we want to do is try to lessen that as best as we can.

Bill Carlson 02:49:44PM

Easy simple thing to move the Uber. IT was someplace else. People in South Tampa have to go west, not north. I would recommend that you reopen cumberland. Let People get to selmon and the Bayshore. Through the CRA, buy a piece of property to put the Uber there. We have to finance this somehow.

Lynn Hurtak 02:50:08PM

Council Member Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 02:50:10PM

Thank you, Madam Chair, again. You have Police Officers that work that corner. Traffic on the corner Of Florida Avenue -- you got to stop traffic from Coming This Way. If not you really back up everything. I can tell you where the other stadium is, and People who live in that area cannot leave home because you have 60,000 People there. You got 40,000 cars. And I guarantee you more accidents going on at the game day on macdill between columbus and MLK than anywhere else in the city. I was one of them. But the cars are lined up for ten blocks without being able to communicate travel east and west, and I understand all that. We understand that. So this is no different than where anybody else lives. I have compassion for IT. How do you fix IT? Dowtown never had a convention center or hotel downtown or a hockey arena. We didnt have anything. Channelside was nothing but an empty dry dock full of rats and everything else. Now you have all the new development. Of course you are going to have a back-up. That hasnt finished. What about the north side of channelside where IT is vacant land? And you got the three sides. All that has got to be developed sooner or later. Problem is not going to get easier. IT will get tougher to manage. We do not have a transportation system. IT is not your fault or my fault. IT has got to come better, come quicker than later. Balls if not, no one will gain anything. Not only the Businesses. People will resent living there, and that is what I think will happen.

Lynn Hurtak 02:52:05PM

Thank you very much. We believe we have item number 54. Councilwoman, if you put your light on so I know.

Naya Young 02:52:21PM

I just want to say -- thank you for bringing this conversation up. I think IT is a good -- a healthy conversation. When you were talking the other night -- I think IT was -- whenever the History Center was having their -- History Center, there was a Christmas market and something happening at the amalie. Remember, I was getting dropped off. And I ended up walking in my gown to the History Center because IT was too much. But I think IT is healthy conversation. And also goes back to transmit and even bigger conversation that I really think as part of the Foundation that we really need to start addressing. If we are going to continue to grow, we have to have the right transportation. So I dont know if there is a grant that we can go for to help US with this streetcar or -- or something, but I really think we have to start looking at our transportation and how we are moving people throughout the city. Because I think that -- this is good because a broader conversation of the important of transportation and eliminating the cars and everything. So thanks for just bringing this up. Good conversation, a healthy conversation to have. Thank you all for being here to kind of talk with ups through IT. So I just wanted to put that out had there.

Lynn Hurtak 02:53:40PM

I cant second or third that enough. I would disagree. I think that Buses have a role. Councilman Maniscalco and then I will --

Guido Maniscalco 02:53:51PM

Thank you very much. Just a closing remark. Compliments to myself and to Councilman Hurtak. She bikes. I walk. We try to do our part. Most recently, I walked to the convention center for the NAACP gala, and I had a wedding in ybor. I hopped on the streetcar and came back. If we expand the system and expand the network, works for me to a certain capacity. If we invest on this further -- I can tell you stories. In New York city, I and took train. Washington dc., Took the train. I never had to touch a car rental facility. Here, IT is tricky. Growing up, I would hear Tampa doesnt have this. There is nothing here. Now IT is so congested and so crowded. So like one or the other.

Lynn Hurtak 02:54:45PM

Chicken or the egg.

Guido Maniscalco 02:54:47PM

Thank you very much.

Brandon Campbell 02:54:52PM

Brandon Campbell, director of mobility. To Councilman Young's comments, a couple of things. We believed most of you of the regional. And we are happy to talk to you IT about what that program is and what we are looking at. If we have not briefed other council members, and we are happy to do that as well. You mentioned the grant for the streetcar extension. We anticipate that if and when we get to the point where we are ready to construct, their will be about a 50% grant from the Federal Transit Administration. Until now -- I dont know what the future is with the state match, but a point of which the statement had pledged a state match for half of remaining half. So we are looking at a quarter of the overall cost. We have got a lot of steps between here and there to get things lined up. But that is the financing that we had previously anticipated when we looked at this.

Lynn Hurtak 02:55:56PM

But still messy.

Naya Young 02:55:58PM

You said regional --

Brandon Campbell 02:56:02PM

Regional Infrastructure Accelerator. Yes.

Lynn Hurtak 02:56:05PM

Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 02:56:06PM

Thank you -- to set up -- thank you for 54. 54, to set IT up, this is a much smaller problem, but We were discussing one night. I was trying to get here. And the Sheriff's Department that shut down -- I hear for a group of coaches and pushing everybody to the side. Confusing for people that didnt know where to go. Cars were almost smashing into each other. I was stuck here half a block. Only happened once, but as We were discussing might be good to have you all come. Read the report that you submitted with only the reason why. And I, at least, dont want to take away police escorts for funerals, but if the President or some Head Of State comes to town, completely understand a police escort. High school group of coaches. Is there -- the question is there a way for US to limit what the police else courts are because IT just makes this traffic jam in downtown so much worse. Hopefully, I can put your mind of how TPD does IT. A vast majority of your escorts are preplanned things for special events, funerals, and dignitaries. Things like that. We work closely with the Traffic Management Center and Brandon's People to try to use light cycles to help US get to places so We are not having an impact on the community. Also, if IT is a larger -- larger length of time and stuff, We dont just shut down. Leaving point a. Shut Down Every Road to point b. We dont do that. We try to time the closure so IT is least impactful to the community. If you go up to the highest levels of the escorts that We do, even those are timed. We will run those routes at the same time that the escort will come through what IT takes to get a car here multiple times so We figure out when We have to shut down certain roads before We get to those locations. So We try to time IT using Brandon's People, and intelligence prior to realtime only the ground intelligence to lessen the impacts. So intersections and all that stuff are not just shut down for a large amount of time.

Bill Carlson 02:58:38PM

Great. Thank you. Thanks a lot for coming.

Lynn Hurtak 02:58:42PM

I have a question about that too. Similar to Councilman Carlson, I actually had numerous complaints from citizens where IT Is Florida Highway patrol that is leading what were, at the time, buses for either like a national championship or something like that, which didnt seem to actually be an emergency. You all follow a certain protocol, but Does Florida Highway patrol follow a different protocol? Dont work for them. There are multiple agencies that do escorts throughout the city, and I can only speak how we do them. And a couple -- some experts we do a lead and flow of traffic and stopping at lights but helping them get through and the whole package can get through the light if IT turns red. And then there are others that are going to go through lights and time IT with brandons people, which is mainly what we do so we dont have an impact on community.

Lynn Hurtak 02:59:40PM

That is kind of what I figured, but this is a good time to ask. Okay, thank you so much.

Lynn Hurtak 02:59:47PM

Appreciate you. All set. Next, Councilman Viera. Do you want to set up your next one?

Luis Viera 02:59:53PM

Yes, Madam Chair. Thank you very much. Is Miss Mckenzie going to be -- is she virtual?

Luis Viera 03:00:02PM

Thats what I thought. How are you, Miss Mckenzie. Can I set --

Lynn Hurtak 03:00:08PM

Sure, I need to go somewhere. Viera is not here.

Luis Viera 03:00:13PM

I guess that would be Me, unless that -- that is very slowly. I am glad to do IT, yes, maam.

Lynn Hurtak 03:00:21PM

Thank you very much. I will be right back.

Luis Viera 03:00:23PM

Thank you very much Madam Chair, and im whatever acting chair, whatever IT is. There you go. Hey, Miss Mckenzie. How are you? Good, good, good. You know what, lets do this, if I May. Let US have you do your presentation, and then I have questions and thoughts on that. Go ahead if you would like.

Brenda McKenzie 03:00:45PM

Thank you, Council, Brenda McKenzie, director of workforce and here to share an update on our intellectual disability, which is the Mike Phillips All Abilities Program. IT came under workforce partnership starting in September 2025. Since that time, We really worked hard to increase the utilization and the impact of the program overall We reached out to the Agencies. We met with them and heard their concerns and had opportunities. We have a solid program, but We wanted to see how We could really increase the impact of the program looking forward. Based on those sessions, a couple of content that came forward to how to better improve the program. Reimbursable items. The program was set up to only reimburse the actual salary of the employee, but while that is happening, agency is doing so much counseling and career coaching and readiness for their ultimate long-term career, and We wanted to be reimbursed what they pour into the individuals. We updated the agreement so that up to 10% of the contract amount can go toward those administrative costs related to coaching the individual to ensure that they are ready for that next step. We received the amount of the new contracts recently in the past ten days. Those agreements have gone out to the Agencies. We received three of them. I think two of them -- We received four of them this afternoon with one more anticipated to come in later today and will be coming back to you in short order for approval of those agreements so We can move forward. Other items that came up due to the conversation is how the program is marketed overall. We have done enhancement to the program managing to make sure people externally are aware of this and the wonderful partners, and I believe the Departments are aware of the benefits of working with the students in the program and what they will get out the program. Consequently, We set up a new marketing effort for the program and kicking that off on the 27th of this month, with a showcase where the Agencies will be able to come in. Talk of their students and the training they received and better match them. That concludes the highlights of the program so far. A pleasure to work on IT. And im here to answer any questions that you May have.

Luis Viera 03:03:26PM

Thank you, maam. I am looking at my calendar, on the 27th, what time?

Brenda McKenzie 03:03:32PM

100. 100 to 3:00.

Luis Viera 03:03:35PM

Great. I can make IT. Couple of things, if I May. A very important issue. We passed this in 2022. I spoken before my frustration on this. But we are in very good hands with you, Miss Mckenzie. You have a personal connection to this issue like a lot of folks who worked on this being a good person. And I cite Eric, who is one of our interns, who started with the City and now a contractor who, thanks to the work of Eric, we are developing a program with other Law Enforcement Agencies where people with autism who are pulled over by Law Enforcement can have a slip they can give the officer so as to avoid any misunderstandings, lack of knowledge on systems of autism, being on the spectrum, and so forth. Imagine we give this young man an opportunity, and he comes in and affects policy change. The idea here is peoples got potential that are through local investments. That is very, very important. Couple of things. I know -- correct me if im wrong, we do have this up on web site, correct?

Brenda McKenzie 03:04:54PM

Thats correct.

Luis Viera 03:04:55PM

Very good. We have a request that Tampa City Council requested this be named for a number of reasons. Mike Phillips all abilities program. Thats the name, correct?

Brenda McKenzie 03:05:13PM

Correct. That is what is on the web site.

Luis Viera 03:05:16PM

I wanted to confirm because Mike Phillips, God rest his soul, a special person, and his mom, Karen Clay, is a wonderful person. She has her inaugural luncheon By The Way on February 13, I think IT is. I will let all council know. If I didnt say that, karen would get me and everything. And she is such -- karen is like one of my favorite people. I love her a lot. But also, you know, IT is my intent -- I am on City Council for another nine months or so, whatever IT is, and I want this thing to be permanent. I know of No Better Way to make IT permanent than to have Karen Clay on IT. Something that is very important. So a couple of quick questions for you, if I May. So for this program, we have funding this year, correct?

Brenda McKenzie 03:06:07PM

Yes, we do.

Luis Viera 03:06:09PM

Great, what is the monetary amount we have funded?

Brenda McKenzie 03:06:16PM

Each Agency, 50,2789.

Luis Viera 03:06:19PM

How many agencies?

Brenda McKenzie 03:06:22PM

Five Agencies are currently in the program.

Luis Viera 03:06:24PM

I like that. How many Interns working at the City Of Tampa under this?

Brenda McKenzie 03:06:30PM

If We are able to get the full authorization that We are working on, approximately two Interns per Student -- or per Agency. So ten in total.

Luis Viera 03:06:40PM

Good. That is a good number. Ten Interns. How many department -- how many departments in the City Of Tampa, but many departments will be working in this. I want all of our departments to be involved with this, as many as can. Maybe some cant, but as many that can.

Brenda McKenzie 03:07:05PM

That is why We are doing the showcase and market IT to City departments. We want to make sure that the City departments know capabilities of the Students. Some of the programs do customer service. They do a plethora of training for the Students, and We want to make sure We are matching them appropriately so We are excited about the showcase.

Luis Viera 03:07:25PM

Great. That is very important. I look forward to be at the showcase. I have things on my calendar, but I want to make time that day. What I want to do Council -- Madam Chair, whenever IT is appropriate, Miss Mckenzie. Thank you for your work. You reached out to me. I know how important IT is to me and to you and to all of US. Again, there is something that those of you touched by our issue -- my oldest brother Juan, who is mentally disabled. And having a loved one with that touches you personally, but I always say, you dont have to be touched personally to have empathy, compassion, decency, and love. That is what IT is all about.

Lynn Hurtak 03:08:09PM

Go right ahead.

Luis Viera 03:08:12PM

My motion, Council, on May 7, I would like to have an update on the continued status of this program either in person or virtual, whatever IT May be. And I would also like to do a couple of things, which is number one, I would like to make the first week in May -- I dont know how I can do this permanently. Where we hear every single year on the status of this program. So my -- so my motion is multipart. Number one, May 7, in-person report on internship how its going.

Lynn Hurtak 03:08:49PM

I would like You to separate IT. If You want to do IT every year, separate.

Luis Viera 03:08:55PM

May 7, in-person update on the status of the program, as well as, if you all could, bring all of the folks who were in this program to bring an update in person. Miss Mckenzie, by May 7, do we have liftoff?

Brenda McKenzie 03:09:18PM

Able to get input from You.

Luis Viera 03:09:22PM

That is my motion, May 7.

Guido Maniscalco 03:09:24PM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 03:09:25PM

Motion from Councilman Viera. Seconded be council member Maniscalco. Any conversation? Motion passes.

Luis Viera 03:09:33PM

Pursuant to your suggestion, on the first week of May of each year, We have an in-person report on the status of the Special Needs Internship Program.

Lynn Hurtak 03:09:45PM

My only recommendation to change IT because IT now has a proper name that is the Michael Phillips ability program.

Luis Viera 03:09:53PM

Mike Phillips.

Lynn Hurtak 03:09:57PM

Make IT annual, and we need the name in there. A motion from Councilman Viera. Name is the Mike Phillips All Abilities Internship Program. IT is in item number 56, if you need the full name. Motion from Councilman Viera. Second from Council Member Maniscalco. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed?

Luis Viera 03:10:17PM

Thats IT. Thank you, Council. Miss Mckenzie, thank you very much, God bless you.

Lynn Hurtak 03:10:24PM

Thank you so much. Appreciate IT and, first of all, I want to thank our clerk and staff for putting all those next to one another. That was a great, great choice. So I want to level set 58 a little bit. We had a lot of e-mails, which I think is very exciting because IT means people are paying attention, and they really value what City Council can bring. And they value our role is in the budget, but what I would like to say is that for the very first time, we are all going to hear what each other has to say about this. So this is probably not going to be a four-hour conversation. So I -- just want to get IT out there. That we still have motions to make in terms of, like, going forward for resolutions. So with that, I am going to have Miss Kopesky up to introduce and to talk about the surplus. This was my motion, so Uj will say that I am very excited about everyone else participation from council but also the public. So your powerpoint is up on screen as well.

Hagar Kopesky 03:11:52PM

Great. Wonderful. Hagar Kopesky, City Council budget analyst. Okay, I think IT was a couple of week ago, three weeks ago, the CFO presented the preliminary numbers for fiscal '25. And at that time, there was roughly $10 million that was presented as surplus, specifically, a couple of items that were addressed as risk items that were to be considered as part of that balance. One of them was the need for the new side arms, and the second one was the fact that the school speeding program is not quite moving along at the pace they thought IT would. So the revenue is not coming in at the timing that was originally planned. With that said, the net amount that we are going to be considering is $5.3 Million. And so over the last few weeks, I know all of you have been thinking about, talking to constituents of where we wanted to prioritize those funds. Now respectfully, I know you want to focus on certain things for today. Are you comfortable with me going through --

Lynn Hurtak 03:13:13PM

Absolutely. We have a lot of people asking a lot of things and our channels to -- what I want to say to the public --

Hagar Kopesky 03:13:22PM

Not making any decisions.

Lynn Hurtak 03:13:24PM

Probably wont come to a full baked decision today.

Bill Carlson 03:13:27PM

Can I say one thing before She goes through the details?

Lynn Hurtak 03:13:32PM

If you would like to.

Hagar Kopesky 03:13:33PM

Thats fine.

Bill Carlson 03:13:34PM

Just real fast.

Lynn Hurtak 03:13:36PM

Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 03:13:38PM

Two things. One, we saw in the presentation that the CFO gave US that each of several buckets, there were like $27 million overage and Administration spent 24 of IT and left US $3 million. Technically, there was $100 million sur plus. So we have got -- I dont remember the exact number, but we are going to spend only a little amount of money. Second thing is, this Administration has maxed out the credit cards. We are more $3 billion in debt. We dont have a surplus. I would like to spend money on all of those things. For the sake of the community, get the Logistics and Asset Management to pay down debt. Next City Council and Mayor will be saddled with enormous debt.

Lynn Hurtak 03:14:38PM

That is something We can talk about. We will go through this first.

Hagar Kopesky 03:14:43PM

If I can get this on the screen. Wonderful. Just to go through what I call our major buckets. We know there was a lot of communication from the community, as well as just some initial feedback when feedback when approvals went out. One of the first levels of consideration was that there were additional requests for social action funding. I think -- I believe today because those programs tend to rely on this funding. That is one of the areas that has concensus from the group to proceed feedback from the organizations. We will go through and where the additional funding was requested for the organizations. Summary here is just intended to show having taken in feedback from all of you, this is the summary of where we stand today and the bulk being in FEMA Parks And Rec -- yes?

Lynn Hurtak 03:15:51PM

Finish the slide.

Hagar Kopesky 03:15:54PM

Very high level. At 5.3, We are roughly 400 over that.

Lynn Hurtak 03:15:59PM

I wanted to sort of level set, this is not additional social action arts? We cut the budget for 47 by a half million.

Hagar Kopesky 03:16:11PM

Fair. When You were presented with the budget, the budget has been reduced significantly. Just to make that point very clear. You agreed to move the budget forward at $1 million. That $1 million consisted of recommendation from administration, and these are additional funding, recommended from the group, City Council. Lets see what I can do here. Can You -- I know You wont be able to fit the whole thing. But this is really -- do You have this also visible in front of You?

Lynn Hurtak 03:16:45PM

And we can see at the our screens.

Hagar Kopesky 03:16:51PM

I didnt plan to go through each one.

Lynn Hurtak 03:16:55PM

You dont need to.

Hagar Kopesky 03:16:57PM

The detail behind that initial $485,000. Anybody want to speak to anything here before I move on?

Guido Maniscalco 03:17:04PM

I am happy with the list.

Luis Viera 03:17:06PM

If I can.

Lynn Hurtak 03:17:08PM

Council member Viera.

Luis Viera 03:17:09PM

I will talk about this later, but there are some terrible, terrible -- the portico -- again, I will get into this. But the Penguin Project, intellectual ability and Arts Program cut by 75% will displace them. Nobody wants to do that. Do we discuss that now, Madam Chair?

Lynn Hurtak 03:17:33PM

Going to let miss Kopesky finish, but definitely --

Luis Viera 03:17:38PM

So I will hold off.

Lynn Hurtak 03:17:40PM

We will have room to have conversation for sure.

Hagar Kopesky 03:17:42PM

We will get the presentation back up. Great. Thank you. Give me a minute.

Lynn Hurtak 03:17:54PM

We can see IT on our screens but not there yet.

Hagar Kopesky 03:17:58PM

Okay, excellent. Going back to the summary page. Where you will see the additional detail behind what -- what initial feedback I received from everyone in terms of Parks And Rec, stormwater, mobility, and then a few miscellaneous items. I want to make clear, too, mobility and stormwater maintenance were both items that I heard -- would say consideraton for needing to at least be thoughtful about them. There was not necessarily as much specificity at that point, but I didnt want them to go by air time, so to speak. I would say that one thing for the group is, we know we have quite a bit of paving money that we have in 2026 just based only the transportation money that we received, plus some of the reallocation that we already done. Only mentioning that from the essentials for the current and following 12 months, we probably have quite a bit of funding for the pace we can handle. Again, stormwater maintenance. Thoughtful to the topic at this point. I will leave IT to you if you are hearing feedback on that or need additional funding. I will say based on where we finished the prior year and money you have funded from the prior year surplus, still available balance from that for -- for maintenance over and above the building. I dont believe that these two are high risk at this point. Okay. I am going to pause. And given that the big item and the big discusson is likely to start with Parks, would you like me to simply turn back over to discussion to the group, because at that point, that is where the bulk of the interest lies.

Lynn Hurtak 03:19:52PM

Sure. If we can have that back up so the public can also see. I think they are used to our voices at this point. I saw council member maniscalcos light. I will -- so what -- what -- before we get started on this conversation, lets talk. Do we want to give everybody like three minutes and then -- so we can do two minutes after? That Way --

Guido Maniscalco 03:20:19PM

May I speak on social action and the other priorities? I can squeeze IT in.

Lynn Hurtak 03:20:25PM

Why dont we talk about these priorities and come back to social Action That Way you dont have talk about IT in three minutes. Miss Kopesky, what is your recommendation?

Hagar Kopesky 03:20:36PM

I agree. I think in terms of the degree of interest and where most of conversation and debate will be in this particular slide, the rationale of where the numbers came from and their interim.

Bill Carlson 03:20:55PM

Madam Chair, from a process point of view, maybe everybody wants to say something. But I am okay just approving IT. I wonder if we can see if anybody is against IT.

Lynn Hurtak 03:21:06PM

Problem is, We have more requests than money. And We cant straight approved IT. Half a million dollars is too much. So We kind of do need to have the discussion. Also, yeah. I think that is part of issue.

Hagar Kopesky 03:21:21PM

To the extent, too, I wanted to leave the flexibility. Things that happened since this list was accumulated. If anything new that you were going to introduce, I wanted to be available for that.

Bill Carlson 03:21:35PM

Push IT back only the Administration and tell them to find the extra --

Lynn Hurtak 03:21:40PM

So I will, and that is an idea. Council member Maniscalco, go ahead. Your first, three minutes.

Guido Maniscalco 03:21:46PM

Thank you very much. I saw the Councilman Carlson memo. IT was sent to everything with regards to -- that totals $2.5 Million in subtotal of District 4.

Hagar Kopesky 03:21:58PM

Correct.

Guido Maniscalco 03:21:59PM

I want to support that. Looking at IT line by line. So many collective spots throughout the history that I see personally. I take my stepdaughter to a lot of different Parks. We hang out there. I dont complain. I am a happy person and enjoy what is there, so much has been invested in the rest of the city and other Parks, new Parks. You can look at mcfarland park that needs a lot and their playground. The mural. I can go on and on. East Tampa facility that we just dedicated, which is spectacular and so well-deserved. We are investing there. I like the list, and we have a variety of items. I would like to support what Councilman Carlson put in the memo. The yellow jackets. I think that is very important. Robin Lockett. Miss Robin Lockett. Old school Tampa people going back years, pushing for the yellow jackets. One pool in district 5, $300,000. Sulphur Springs boardwalk needs a lot of work. Henry And Ola. Speaking to the Seminole Heights community for years. And now Councilman Miranda brought IT up several times. Just been -- they were out of a trailer. They were -- whatever. But I want to support as much as possible. With regard to social action, I will save IT for the next round of discussion, but priorities are there. One last thing. We did get several e-mails regarding funding route 1. This will take part of this discussion.

Lynn Hurtak 03:23:42PM

I have comment on that.

Guido Maniscalco 03:23:44PM

I will wait for Council Member -- Chair Hurtak. I want to hear what everybody else has to say and go to Social Action.

Lynn Hurtak 03:23:52PM

I can go ahead and quickly give the update on the route 400 that goes up to Nebraska. Came out of a transit Tampa Bay meeting. I knew what you meant. I knew what you meant. But -- so apparently, no one reached out to HART. So we reached out to HART. Brandon and Jordan reached out to HART, and they said as far as frequency and the -- HART currently would like to continue working with the city on the FY '27 budget, but right now they already have their budget set and done. They would prefer not to pursue IT, and that is coming right straight from HART. As much as I would like to support them and help them, I will defer to what HART wants. So I will --

Guido Maniscalco 03:24:55PM

We can champion.

Lynn Hurtak 03:24:56PM

We can talk about IT. Next month, we are starting to talk about 2027. I wanted to level set that and get this out Of The Way. Luis.

Luis Viera 03:25:11PM

Council Member Young.

Naya Young 03:25:15PM

We are talking about this slide right now.

Lynn Hurtak 03:25:18PM

Three minutes for this go around.

Naya Young 03:25:21PM

Yes, so well, one, no secret that anything pertaining to youth, youth activities, opportunities for youth, I want to support 100%. I want to -- so there are two items on here that specifically are for Sulphur Springs. And one, you wanted to be sure that we have Sulphur Springs included in here. Because one, they dont have a CRA. And even before coming on to council, I know that IT come up in conversation a few times just making sure we are actually dedicated funding to Sulphur Springs in that area. And I wanted to just be sure to make sure that we have, you know, some money to go forward the area. The Sulphur Springs action plan, they are finishing up. I believe they are -- I think IT is phase three or should be finished with phase three. So my idea for waiting to, you know, have money to go toward the program, to go toward the plan so IT doesnt become a plan that shows. Already Money In Place to start something. And there is -- the report is very expensive, and so, you know, we can maybe speak with them and decide what comes out of that will be the first thing we want to put money towards, but I wanted to be sure that we put something in there to get the ball rolling with that. I worked for phase one of that project, so I would really love to see IT go forward. I know the community has really worked hard and really performed a lot in that project. Again, the teens leading change program. I spoke with a lot of community members of having that program and how life changing IT is for the students. And I always talked about increasing the youth program for 48 slots to 70 slots. We heard of that increasing the number of slots for our teen students to participate. We have the Parks, again, I spoken a lot about having Parks and places for our youth to go. Making these changes so we can continue to have nice Parks for our children go to continue to have activities and things to do, as well as the families. And, of course, Yellow Jackets, I know that is something that is extremely important, and we all heard about IT numerous times. Hoping that we support changes for this district. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 03:27:59PM

Council member Viera.

Luis Viera 03:28:01PM

Thank you, Madam Chair. Speaking of Parks issue. A couple of things. District 7. We talked of different things. I like this park. I like this. District 7 is a quarter of the city, right. And I always say -- this is political, and when I leave, the person who replaces me has got to fight like hell. I mean that. And you are a constituent, you know what I am talking about. You have to talk of District 7 and New Tampa. I want South Tampa. I want to support my friends in South Tampa. Support that 110. But we need equity for District 7 and New Tampa. That is very important. A motion having a couple of things asking Parks and Recreation to come back with some of their suggested needs to put an emphasis on noncra areas, number one. I am willing to stipulate whatever percentage to South Tampa because there are a lot of needs out there. But I am not going to let go the needs that District 7 have in North Tampa. A lot working-class people just like we have a lot of folks south of Gandy that are working-class, and I want to support them. We got to support them and something that is very important. We hear a lot from a lot of Parks in Tampa. A lot of time my constituents dont show up to Tampa City Council. Just because they dont show up at public comment doesnt mean they dont go to work and fund our salaries and Parks. I want them to have a voice and something that is really important. I refer folks back to the Parks. Take a look at IT. What district did they say had the most amount of Parks and deficit, District 7. Especially New Tampa, something in the budget this year coming up for New Tampa. Fight for a long time for our friends at k-bar ranch, and we cant forget that. I want to support South Tampa. I hear from my friends and constituents in South Tampa, and I want to support Councilman Carlson and the things he wants to do out there certainly. I do think we need guidance from Parks and Recreation from all parts of our city to modify some and put additional fund for District 7, really noncra parts. If you were in the CRA, you have that bucket of money that you can go to, but like Councilwoman Young said, you have Sulphur Springs. You have our friends in South Tampa. And then you got New Tampa and the working-class backbone of the City Of Tampa, North Tampa. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak 03:30:35PM

Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 03:30:37PM

To residents of north and New Tampa, Council Member Viera has been a huge champion for nine or ten years, whatever, he has been on council. During the time I have been on here, he has been a huge advocate for north and New Tampa. I think I approved everything that he proposed for that area. South Tampa has -- and over the years, we have gotten fire station or budgeted fire stations in Parks and disability Parks and other things in north and New Tampa community centers. And so I -- there is always more. What I tell people is Parks are falling apart all over the city. Sidewalks are falling apart all over the city, and roads are falling apart all over the city, but New Tampa is funding the Cras. North and New Tampa are funding the Cras because -- because that is whether the money is coming from. And what this members is that -- is that we are paying police and fire and the CRA districts are not. And so South Tampa has been really paid for a long time. This request does not come from me but from the moms of South Tampa and there are thousands. They finally are fed up. And Council Member Viera has been a huge advocate for disability, accessibility, and constituents showing me the last few days, I am sure you saw pictures of regular swings falling apart from mold all over them. They are falling apart. Some of them are not safe. But the disability swings and accessibility are not working at all, you go to put concrete underneath the facility so people can get in wheelchairs. Look at the list of basic maintenance for South Tampa. I appreciate everybody approving IT as he said not for me but for the thousands of moms, many of them with kids with disabilities that would love to go to their own Parks. Second, to the Transit issue. You know, Councilwoman Hurtak is taken this off the table, but I really think we should put in $20,000 to $50,000 to Transit now and we had away at that test of freeservice. We have beta test paying for additional service. I would like to see a beta test separate from the others that Transit now promotes a route. One of them that is not already being funded. We give them like $20,000 or $50,000 and ask them to promote that route for a year. And I think that they would increase the ridership just because they promote IT and make IT fun, which means that Councilwoman Hurtak will have to go on the bus too. I think with a small amount of money, we will increase traffic on the buses. Last thing, I think we should pass this as is and let the administrator find the other $500,000 since they spent the rest of the $100 million already.

Lynn Hurtak 03:33:37PM

Council Member Miranda, you want to speak. Put your mic on.

Charlie Miranda 03:33:48PM

District 6 has been neglected if you look at the rest. Some paving started this. Just one day the other day driving around the district, and I saw part of the neighborhood almost completely done. And on game days in certain areas, you cant get in and out of your home for an hour before the game because the traffic is coming in, and then you cant get out of your house for an hour and a half after the game. That is another area We have. When you see about accidents -- I am going to ask for report of accidents around a certain time after the let out to see how many accidents have created in neighborhood. Because the traffic comes from neighborhood streets to get to the secondary to get To The Highway. IT is very Dangerous To Drive when you have the things going on. Quality of life during those periods of time are little diminished, but We make the best We can become what We have. You look at other side, the side around the area where the malls used to be because there are no malls there now. I am not even going to mention the name. I dont want to embarrass anybody. But the malls are gone. So We have things that are happening around. Sooner or later IT will be happening. Solid. Great People live and work there. They are trying to do best they can for families involved and thank God that they do. So when you look at IT, We are no different than any part of city. We have -- I think District 6 is the most diverse district in the city because IT has everything. And when you look at IT, IT is a Wonderful Place because you have a mix of permits, races, creed, money, everything, less, more. So IT gets along pretty well for what IT is. And IT is doing very well and prospering, I think. Just -- you know, keep doing what We are doing and get everything as perfect as We can.

Lynn Hurtak 03:35:47PM

Okay. Thank you very much. I will put a few things in. I agree. I dont have a problem with South Tampa Parks. The issue when I read the specifics is -- the request was actually for 2.1 Something million with the extra going to trees. And we have a lot of money in the tree fund because of that. I would prefer putting extra 300 into something that is not trees because we have a tree fund.

Bill Carlson 03:36:17PM

A new list that Tara worked out with Ted Fowler.

Lynn Hurtak 03:36:21PM

I havent seen that list.

Bill Carlson 03:36:23PM

That was just yesterday.

Lynn Hurtak 03:36:24PM

I know. Thats what I am saying. I think we kind of need to figure that out, because right now we have to cut a half million from this list. That was my first point. Didnt realize IT was another list, and IT was sent to US -- but if I still have my time, please. I have a quick question for Miss Kopesky. If you can answer for me -- as she is answering, if you can hold my time -- for the District 6 Park Placeholder. What is that?

Hagar Kopesky 03:36:57PM

Right. As I was meeting with the different offices, one, I want to remind everyone that Parks -- first of all, shout out to Mr. Fowler. He was very helpful and asked to pull from his perspective what he had visibility that could do in the parksystem.

Lynn Hurtak 03:37:17PM

Need IT.

Hagar Kopesky 03:37:19PM

I have IT. Of that list, approximately $1.3 Million of his 3million was incorporated into the list you are looking on in the powerpoint. IT was a good partnership is where I am going with that. In terms of your specific question, I think not everyone was as ready to pull trigger on the specificity of where they May see the greatest need in that particular district. And so by allocating a committed amount, IT will say how more time to make a good decision where that is best served. So particular case outside of Henry And Ola, little more homework to be done.

Lynn Hurtak 03:38:00PM

Same question for Miscellaneous District 5. Park repairs?

Naya Young 03:38:09PM

That came from -- just, looking some of Parks, you have a building that needs to be repaving, mulch, and replacing grass. Those kinds of things. Miscellaneous things.

Lynn Hurtak 03:38:22PM

Like I said, I wanted specificity on that. And then -- okay. That -- that was really my question. I support Parks. I dont have any particular -- since I am citywide, I can just support Parks wholeheartedly. One thing that I champion and im thrilled in here is the Summer Youth Program increase. The Summer Youth Program from 48 to 70 because the communities that asked for that for many years and glad we can participate in doing that. So I will go ahead and -- those were my comments.

Lynn Hurtak 03:39:04PM

Do we have a second round? Anybody else wish to speak about -- well, lets try to finish this section first before we have go to Social Action Arts. So IT sounds like we still have District 6, district 5, District 4 that we need more specifics, more updated specifics. District 7.

Luis Viera 03:39:33PM

May I?

Lynn Hurtak 03:39:35PM

The only one that havent --

Luis Viera 03:39:38PM

There are some District 7 requests in here. I would like to say a little bit more. So couple of things. I will just say from experience with things. Whenever we pass these, there is sometimes the Black hole of the city budget that when you pass something, and if you dont check up on IT -- I say this to all the district members, next year you go, hey, what happened to that, right. So you put a quarter of a million dollars for District 5. And you want to make sure -- By The Way, not because anybody in staff wants to hide the ball. Stuff just happens. People May forget, whatever the case May be. A point of discussion. Ask Parks in terms of specificity when this is needed. I will be glad to stipulate to a certain amount -- $2.5 Million requested here including whatever the moment amount is with the trees. If we want to say out of this $2 million goes to South Tampa, I am good with that. Im fine. I have no problem with that. With the Parks, I hear things and feel things. And South Tampa. If we need slight modification for other things especially in North Tampa, the fowler and busch communities. I think that is pivotal.

Lynn Hurtak 03:41:05PM

Miss Kopesky has a list from Mr. Fowler. If we can switch to the wolf.

Hagar Kopesky 03:41:16PM

That will be great. Some items that were selected.

Lynn Hurtak 03:41:19PM

Are those the checks?

Hagar Kopesky 03:41:21PM

My little checks which are hardly visible. Yes. Just to -- I will use District 5 as an example. So in this case, there was some compromises. There were two pools that were recommended to have decking improvements. And given we knew we had some constraints, we needed a decision -- Councilwoman made a decision to select one. To your point, Council Member Viera, where they brought forward what they thought that were they think, a, was meaningful from an infrastructure standpoint and that they could get to IT easily.

Naya Young 03:42:04PM

And we also -- I did speak with Mr. Fowler as well to get specifics on exactly what are the facility improvements maintenance. Belmont Heights. And once IT falls out of code, then they are unable to use IT for their games. Jackson Heights for the lights on its field. They have little to no lights. You have the pool deck for the Cyrus Green School used for summer and program. And kids all over the neighborhood that go to the pool. I did ask him for specifics on what exactly those improvements were.

Hagar Kopesky 03:42:51PM

One thing I would like to draw your attention to, Councilman Carlson. I know today we talked about Palomis, Gandy north and Gandy south. I noticed in this districts 4 exception, Boardwalk Replacement, Gandy park for 270 and improvement. So much today was talked discussing the north side of Gandy. I wanted to draw your attention to that, and this they wanted to highlight.

Lynn Hurtak 03:43:20PM

Councilman Carlson, are these on your list?

Hagar Kopesky 03:43:22PM

Selections to meet the budget requirements what the community wanted.

Lynn Hurtak 03:43:29PM

Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 03:43:31PM

Where is this list reflected on budget You just showed US?

Hagar Kopesky 03:43:36PM

If items were taken from this list. So -- the -- I think I will tell that you I believe there was a lot of work going on already with the group in District 7 -- District 4 to look at the child interactive specific items. Not incorporated in the powerpoint unless items were lifted from this list and put into IT. In this case, I am intentionally showing you your section because I know in that particular area of Gandy, we had a large discussion today. But, no, the specific suggestions --

Lynn Hurtak 03:44:12PM

The things are checked.

Hagar Kopesky 03:44:14PM

He asked specifically about his. In district 4 --

Bill Carlson 03:44:18PM

Not 2.5 -- not $5.5 Million plus 1.2.

Hagar Kopesky 03:44:24PM

I went ahead and wanted to know for myself what was the value from the park recommended list that was put in the powerpoint presentation and that is 1.2.

Bill Carlson 03:44:34PM

Thank you. Couple more questions. I am being told in the South Tampa proposal that the trees are not included. Mr. Fowler went through whole list. And he was able to tell US -- the request from the moms in South Tampa. Them went and created their own list of things because went park by park. They have more of a lifespan and keep IT sturdy. And next thing to have a grant to cover something. We can ask him to send a full list. He was very pragmatic of going about IT, and we can look at that. The other thing I would say, I try to be supportive of projects throughout the city. But the Folks -- just to let you know, you never hear a big request in South Tampa, because the people in South Tampa know they need to make investments in other places. But you look at the 100-plus investments downtown, and you Count Water Street and all the arts stuff a couple of hundred millions. Fair oaks park including interest which is like 100 million or at the very least 40 million or whatever. We have the riverwalk, which is including interest another 20 million. Hannah Avenue, 220 million. South Tampa gets nothing like that. Nothing. Folks in South Tampa, I think, are being reasonable saying we need you to fix the swings that are there. Replace the ones that are rusted. And concrete instead of mulch so kids with wheelchairs can get in. Other districts got tens and millions of dollars and moms of South Tampa say can you give US enough to fix the basic maintenance on these things.

Lynn Hurtak 03:46:30PM

You dont hear anybody saying they dont want that.

Bill Carlson 03:46:35PM

South Tampa doesnt get any because they dont have CRA.

Lynn Hurtak 03:46:39PM

We all understand that. I think Councilman Viera made a very good point. If we are not very specific, I would be uncomfortable approving this without having an exact list. My request is someone wants to make a motion for -- for Miss Kopesky to work with the individual people who made these requests and Mr. Fowler to come back with this true list of all the things, because I am -- I am uncomfortable with the word "placeholder."

Hagar Kopesky 03:47:12PM

Understandable. And just a handful and welcome to do that.

Lynn Hurtak 03:47:18PM

Council member Viera.

Luis Viera 03:47:20PM

If I May, because IT will deal with South Tampa. May I hear from Councilman Carlson first. Go ahead.

Bill Carlson 03:47:26PM

I can make the motion that You just mentioned. One of my things was to ask, what is the next step. I think there is a lot of expectation We would approve something today, but bringing IT back in a couple of weeks with more clarification.

Lynn Hurtak 03:47:41PM

With the resolution, yes.

Bill Carlson 03:47:42PM

I would ask US to include in a motion or I will make a motion to request for the Logistics and Asset Management to find the $500,000 because they spent 95% in the overage and find that amount. The City Of Tampa have minimal things to make better in the community.

Lynn Hurtak 03:48:04PM

I think that is great idea, but history has shown that is not something they are likely to do. If we need to find another half million, I think we can also make that --

Hagar Kopesky 03:48:16PM

Make that part of IT.

Lynn Hurtak 03:48:18PM

I think we should make separate motions just on the.

Bill Carlson 03:48:25PM

When They need IT, They find money.

Lynn Hurtak 03:48:28PM

I dont disagree.

Bill Carlson 03:48:30PM

Not US asking for IT. If the Administration wants to look good for the community. Up make a motion. When do you want to bring this back?

Hagar Kopesky 03:48:40PM

Here is what I would say. Given I believe Primary District 5 And 6 going back with Mr. Fowler.

Lynn Hurtak 03:48:49PM

And 4.

Hagar Kopesky 03:48:51PM

Council Member Viera, only reason I paused there. I heard two things. We have yours specifically broken out for play equipment New Tampa, Del Rio Pool Stand, Copeland Park, and you shot from the hip you wanted to consider additional. And That The Place I was pausing.

Lynn Hurtak 03:49:13PM

What I will offer council member Viera, tree trimming was probably mine. But knowing that -- well, that is different. But I would say that I would support putting $100,000, taking IT out of tree trimming and giving to District 7.

Luis Viera 03:49:33PM

Somehow.

Lynn Hurtak 03:49:34PM

I am going to take tree trimming off of that and turn IT into District 7. And let You work with the two of them to figure that out. Does that work for You.

Luis Viera 03:49:44PM

May I, if I May. I will support -- my understanding of this motion to have IT come back. I will say to come back soon for purposes of momentum and everything like that. But to work with district council members on the needs of the district. To have IT come back. Again, with a lot of the requests for South Tampa. Really all -- I am very supportive of them. Very, very supportive. I want to see some more movement in here for not just District 7, but the Fowler And Busch Communities. For New Tampa and the Fowler And Busch Communities. They dont show up in City Of Tampa for many reasons. Their voice and virtue of the hard work they do every day. We can work in our individuals offices. I am fine with that.

Lynn Hurtak 03:50:32PM

We will keep the amounts We have. Unfortunately, the next available date that We have space is March 26.

Bill Carlson 03:50:40PM

We cant put IT on March 5.

Lynn Hurtak 03:50:45PM

No more additional items May be added. We made that specific because We have five commendations and a public hearing. That day is going to be absolutely packed.

Bill Carlson 03:50:56PM

What are we calling this?

Guido Maniscalco 03:51:01PM

The Kopesky Fund. [Laughter]

Hagar Kopesky 03:51:05PM

I wish.

Lynn Hurtak 03:51:06PM

Calling this the FY '25 surplus.

Bill Carlson 03:51:15PM

Make a motion and ask Miss Kopesky to bring back a more detailed little of the -- of fiscal -- to discuss on March 26 --

Lynn Hurtak 03:51:33PM

Bring back resolutions as well.

Bill Carlson 03:51:35PM

Bring back resolutions to approve the budget at that time, and in the meantime, to have staff ask the District Representative -- to ask US for en put on the specifics.

Lynn Hurtak 03:51:49PM

Do we have a second? Okay. So I hear a lot of things. My recommendation would have Miss Kopesky lead that charge as the in-between staff and Council Members so she can keep an eye on all of IT. And then saw Councilman Young's light first.

Naya Young 03:52:09PM

So are we doing this for the entire list?

Lynn Hurtak 03:52:15PM

Yes.

Naya Young 03:52:16PM

And what We are wanting is to come back with specifics. We want IT to say concession stand or lightin. That is what We want. A more detailed list.

Luis Viera 03:52:27PM

Can I have a question on the motion? So are we approving this list of priorities? Because, again, I am -- I am in agreement.

Lynn Hurtak 03:52:37PM

Not the list on the screen. Take that off.

Bill Carlson 03:52:42PM

We are not approving the list. We are asking Her to come back.

Luis Viera 03:52:45PM

I support a couple of things. Look Councilwoman Hurtak said, everybody support something going to South Tampa. There is Little Movemen,t and I can work off base. We are dealing with ten suggestions, not the ten commandments. I can vote for that.

Lynn Hurtak 03:53:01PM

Council Member Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 03:53:02PM

Thank you very much. I want to remind everyone that you have four districts, 4, 5, 6 and 7, sum of the digits of the total. You have four Council Members. Districts 1, 2, and 3. Try something with your district, Council Member, make sure you include IT with district 1, 2 and 3. IT is better to make IT happen quicker instead of one individual carrying the load, four individuals carrying.

Lynn Hurtak 03:53:35PM

Miss Kopesky would be a good go.

Charlie Miranda 03:53:38PM

I wanted to make sure IT is on the table.

Lynn Hurtak 03:53:41PM

Thank you for remembering US. You have sat in that seat, you know. So we have a motion for staff to come back with a more specific -- Miss Kopesky to come back with a more specific list on March 26. The resolution -- how do we want to handle the resolution?

Martin Shelby 03:54:03PM

I am going to have to look into that.

Lynn Hurtak 03:54:06PM

I asked to you put IT in, but Mr. Shelby gave me a look.

Martin Shelby 03:54:10PM

I gave you a look. But correct me, has Council ever done this before in years past?

Guido Maniscalco 03:54:16PM

Not that I know of.

Lynn Hurtak 03:54:18PM

Yes, We did a resolution last year.

Martin Shelby 03:54:20PM

Who presented the resolution?

Lynn Hurtak 03:54:24PM

The Administration did.

Martin Shelby 03:54:25PM

I have to dive in with the Charter. This is going into the FY '26 budget, is that correct?

Lynn Hurtak 03:54:35PM

I mean technically, yes. IT is the leftover from February, FY '25.

Martin Shelby 03:54:40PM

Amending the '26 budget.

Hagar Kopesky 03:54:43PM

IT is.

Lynn Hurtak 03:54:44PM

IT is.

Bill Carlson 03:54:45PM

We approved budget as projected before. Additional money and The Administration went ahead and spent some of the extra money without telling US. Can We leave IT as IT is.

Martin Shelby 03:54:56PM

My suggestion is to leave IT as IT is.

Hagar Kopesky 03:55:00PM

I would like to ask one thing for clarification. To make the exercise go as smooth as possible. Up $400,000 over. We will heard a couple of things and they can cover that and make that amount as a total. I also heard that I might want to consider movement for district allocation from Viera. As We think of leaving this room, I would like to know if We remain in total at this 5.7. If We have to cut IT is one thing but not going north of 5.7.

Lynn Hurtak 03:55:35PM

Councilwoman Young, I saw your light first.

Naya Young 03:55:39PM

My amount is going to stay the same.

Hagar Kopesky 03:55:43PM

Thats why I am opening up the conversation.

Lynn Hurtak 03:55:46PM

Council Member Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 03:55:48PM

I have three items for later on.

Lynn Hurtak 03:55:51PM

Your light is on, thats why I am asking. Council member Viera.

Luis Viera 03:55:55PM

Okay with the 5 million or $5.7 Million. I know we are not marrying our 70s to the percentage. Thats why I am supportive of this. I am good.

Lynn Hurtak 03:56:07PM

-- gave District 7. $100000 for the trees.

Bill Carlson 03:56:17PM

Per your suggestion, I will make a motion.

Lynn Hurtak 03:56:23PM

I have a motion for Miss Kopesky to work with council members and staff to make the list more specific. From Council Member Carlson, he believe seconded by Council Member Viera. Miranda. All in favor. Lets make that motion first. Do you want -- lets deal with Social Action Arts because that is separate. Fine, go ahead.

Bill Carlson 03:56:50PM

Because this one -- this one is about doing the role of government, which is fixing things of government. I would like to make a motion to ask the Chief Of Staff to work with Miss Kopesky to find an additional $500,000 to cover the budget as proposed and return March 26, adjacent to the other item, to report on build -- whether and how they were able to find the $500,000.

Lynn Hurtak 03:57:23PM

Do I have a second to discussion this, and a second from council member Maniscalco. My only request is that you include the CFO in that and not just Chief Of Staff.

Bill Carlson 03:57:33PM

I think the Chief Of Staff is the one that can look across the departments. He can work with the CFO.

Lynn Hurtak 03:57:41PM

Mr. Shelby.

Martin Shelby 03:57:44PM

$500000 in the motion specifically for what?

Bill Carlson 03:57:48PM

I said for the overage.

Martin Shelby 03:57:51PM

Overage.

Bill Carlson 03:57:53PM

The list.

Martin Shelby 03:57:54PM

Of the prioritization list. Thank you very much.

Lynn Hurtak 03:57:57PM

A motion from Councilman Carlson. Seconded from Council Member Maniscalco. Any conversation on this topic? All in favor. Any opposed? Okay. Back to Social Action Arts Funding. Council Member Maniscalco, he wanted to speak on this first. IT is the same thing. First round, three minutes each.

Guido Maniscalco 03:58:16PM

What we are talking about here going by your list. I am not making any changes because of budget constraints. The Portico this year and current budget got completely cut, correct?

Hagar Kopesky 03:58:32PM

Correct.

Guido Maniscalco 03:58:32PM

Tbae and speak up Tampa Bay and Crisis Center and Victims Advocate. Iupcoming making the request of 75, 75, 24. And $100,000 to the portico.

Hagar Kopesky 03:58:50PM

Correct.

Guido Maniscalco 03:58:51PM

Cutting everybody -- cutting a few of these organizations to zero is extremely harmful, I understand, but looking forward and what is upcoming, you know, the portico is going back up to 100. And others received a haircut or a significant haircut. But I would rather then give them 60%, 50% something other than going down to zero. Each organization is looking at them and trying to learn what they do. They contribute to this community In Whatever Way, a $500,000 item or $100,000. Community steppingstones was mentioned earlier today. Look at this artwork in the back, but the service they provide for the Sulphur Springs community. The crisis center. I wont even go into that. Portico, they were here recently. Talk of the homeless, houseless, and affordable housing. Down The Street. Skills Center with what they do.

Lynn Hurtak 03:59:58PM

Get that back on the screen so The Public can hear as The Public can hear as Maniscalco is talking of this.

Guido Maniscalco 04:00:08PM

Rise up for peace. Gun violence. I looked directly from that organization how IT empowered young men. If you have been to any of their events, everybody has their strengths. I dont want to cut anybody down to zero. I am happy with what is proposed. I wish I could give everybody everything, but I thinking this is within reason, council member Viera mentioned the -- the Penguin Project. I mean that -- there are so many special organizations here that are meaningful, because people ask, what you get in return for social action and arts. Getting to know these one by one, so many of these organizations. The least we can do for them. Return on investment you cant put an appraisal or monetary value on IT when you are shaping lives. Cornerstone Kids. I know people in almost every one of these organizations but they make Tampa a Better Place. Thats IT.

Lynn Hurtak 04:01:08PM

Council member Viera.

Luis Viera 04:01:09PM

Thank you, Madam. Quick question for Miss Kopesky. Veterans helping Veterans, they got $24,000?

Hagar Kopesky 04:01:18PM

Correct. Just to be clear, the original amount was satisfactory, IT does not appear on the list. Yep.

Luis Viera 04:01:25PM

Just want to make sure. I was thinking of them. Number one, the portico. According to my recollection, we were told at the budget hearing that $100,000 will be satisfied in the budget. When I saw that for the portico how IT affected solutions to the secular arm of the portico. I was distressed. That is too strong of a word. That is not a good thing. Housing that was promise today are low-income people and Returning Citizens near the portico. That has got to be satisfied in full. IT does morally. To do anything else is terrible. The couple of things that I am requesting here. Again, By The Way, other than portico, I am not asking for a full amount requested because you have to compromise. And I am all about that, but I dont want to compromise on the backs of mentally disabled people, etc. Sorry, but not sorry. The penguin project, 75,000. Down to $15,000. Why? Why? 49 -- long story. Go to New Jersey, $49.95 Is allows them to get a matching county grant. Like a 40% cut. Thats fine. Ybor City Museum, an organization ignored year after year cut down from $150,000 to $45,750. I will take a 40% to 50%. Give them $90,000. I am fine with that. Portico Housing solutions. Two that have come. Gold Star Mothers. They are new. Again, $4500. I can explain that. Two others once that came up, the crisis center of Tampa Bay. Started a victims of crime program. Council Member Maniscalco mentioned the wonderful work that our friends from rise up for peace. This was zeroed out for Victim Advocates. Stage works, they are requesting money from US. They do amazing work. They -- I am saying, in other words, if we want to put IT in there, yeah. Are they late for the game, absolutely. I tried to work with them with the CRA behind the scenes that havent come to the fruition. I love to support them and the great work that they do. That is what I am looking at. Small amount of money with the penguin project and portico, goes a Long Way for those with big hearts.

Lynn Hurtak 04:04:06PM

I will say Cornerstone Kids $20,000 allows them to get a matching grant. Steppingstones, the pool is still closed, something that Councilwoman Henderson championed, and you cement that up for her. Councilman Young.

Naya Young 04:04:23PM

To echo what you were saying. For someone that worked in nonprofit, Nonprofits do and and sometimes -- we know these Nonprofits. Sometimes we dont know the kind of work or pennies that Nonprofits have to rub together to do programming. I have been in that position. Especially you have some Nonprofits in the county, they have country funding for Nonprofits. You have them. They are still trying to make programming work. Because what happens -- when -- when you are in the building, you are thinking if I dont have programming, that means people arent coming or kids are not coming or kids are out there doing whatever. And the seniors are out there doing whatever. And you have to make the decision, keep the doors open and do and home that something comes in or not. So I am a huge supporter of -- of Nonprofits and the work that they do in our communities. If IT is possible that we can fine the funding to -- you know, to do these incremental, small increases, I think so IT is worth IT. They stand in the gap with the city and the county or even school sometimes cant. So that would just be my -- my thoughts.

Lynn Hurtak 04:05:41PM

Anyone else? Just a reminder, that on the May 28 City Council workshop, we have -- I made a motion to talk about the future of the Social Action And Arts Fund so we dont have to be here again. So we know what we are funding. How we are doing IT. I wanted to remind everybody of that. So going forward, are we set, are we good? Anyone have anything they would want to say?

Luis Viera 04:06:07PM

Appropriate to make a motion on some of things I talked about for getting councils support for some of these?

Lynn Hurtak 04:06:13PM

I think We have the means to support the ones that are here. I dont know that We can --

Guido Maniscalco 04:06:20PM

What do you want to have?

Bill Carlson 04:06:22PM

The $500,000 overage for this one Hurtak Thursday that is the one that is already there.

Hagar Kopesky 04:06:31PM

To be clear, the 500 overage is included this. Everything. I was anticipating that barring any new additional people coming in. That the social action component will be actioned and moved so they can move forward with the organizations and work through the other pages.

Lynn Hurtak 04:06:51PM

Councilman Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 04:06:53PM

I will say being in the corner by myself, be careful how You do things, because, a, You dont know what the budget is going to be, b, You dont know the rise of cost and salaries and insurance. Your budget May not be what You think IT is going to be in the coming years.

Lynn Hurtak 04:07:10PM

We reasonability going to be talking of the budget, but the process.

Charlie Miranda 04:07:14PM

Process is the money. That is what I am trying to tell you.

Lynn Hurtak 04:07:22PM

That is true. Councilman Carlson, saw your light.

Bill Carlson 04:07:26PM

Just a couple of things real fast. Change the name of portico to Portico Housing solution just to be clear. I have spoken up in the past and one of directions of the future of the economy and tied to economic development if we were doing real economic development instead of 80s economic development we would easily fund that. We are doing old kind of stuff. Council Member Henderson recommended that we put a one-year limit on these. I know she passed away. But I dont think there should be an expectation that the city is going to fund something on a regular basis, except that as we go to the -- to this discussion in May, I think -- if -- to a lot people, this looks like a political list. We need to make sure there are is following the strategy of the city, and we can give our strategy recommendations to the administration. But they should go under economic development. Rise up for peace probably should go under TPD somehow. The skill center should probably be economic development. Punt these in different categories. Not to make them pay for IT, but there needs to be an alignment strategy where the nonprofits are providing something that city cant provide or providing at a better cost. Portico Housing solution go under housing. Really dont like getting hundreds e-mails from people advocating for their nonprofits. Stage works, I put a lot of my own money in them over the years. Love them. I would -- Lab Theatre is e-mailing US now. To me, IT shouldnt be a free-for-all where we have to make decisions among our friends. We should be able to look at IT objectively and figure out where the money was going. Also, on some of these like Penguin Projects and others, maybe IT should go under Raquel. Maybe Raquel should have a budget to try to figure -- maybe something you should do before you leave Council Member, Councilman, Viera, how Raquel solves not only responding to people. But the strategy to help people living better living and get better jobs and internships. Some could be part of a larger strategy that you are able to work out and document before you leave.

Lynn Hurtak 04:10:01PM

Thank you. Whole point of the May conversation. Councilman Carlson or Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco 04:10:09PM

Councilman Carlson, we are at $485,000. Squeeze in $15,000 for stage works.

Luis Viera 04:10:16PM

I do actually believe IT or not. And I read this wrong. Should I, Madam Chair, to speak?

Lynn Hurtak 04:10:23PM

Yes, Councilman Viera.

Luis Viera 04:10:25PM

I am supportive of this. I read this wrong. I was going to make motions. Already put in there. My apologies. IT is already in there. I would be supportive of $15,000 for stage works.

Lynn Hurtak 04:10:38PM

The reason I am uncomfortable with this is because this was just a Grass-Roots E-Mail Campaign. Not that I think that is a bad idea, but what happens when there is a Grass-Roots E-Mail Campaign between now and March 26 for something else.

Guido Maniscalco 04:10:57PM

Do you want me to withdraw my motion?

Lynn Hurtak 04:11:04PM

Just throwing IT out and playing the devils advocate. I side with you that I like round numbers. I dont have a problem with that, but I am just saying -- that is the whole thing. We didnt want to go incident to go tofar in the weeds and asked Miss Kopesky to round up all of the options. My only hesitation is if We crack the door.

Guido Maniscalco 04:11:32PM

I will crack the door and make IT an easy 500. Easy to remember 500 rather than 485.

Luis Viera 04:11:39PM

Second, if I May.

Guido Maniscalco 04:11:41PM

Make a motion to add $15,000 to the list for stage works.

Luis Viera 04:11:47PM

I will second, and May I, Madam Chair. Wall is going down, hat up, and Great Lakes the hat. This is IT. We are done. Half a million dollars. We are done. That is where I will support that. And, yes, this list was great, and Hagar, thank you for your work. We appreciate you.

Lynn Hurtak 04:12:11PM

A motion from council member Maniscalco to make IT an even $500,000 by adding $15,000 for stage works. A second from Councilman Viera. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? Okay. So Miss Kopesky, what is the future plan for this? What do you need for US to move this forward?

Hagar Kopesky 04:12:35PM

I think what I would like to do reach out to the Offices individually. Make sure whatever is not crystal clear in terms of the park-related asks --

Lynn Hurtak 04:12:46PM

Talk of Social Action Arts Committee.

Hagar Kopesky 04:12:50PM

In terms of the social action, I was thinking I need to connect stage works to the application process. And need to reach out to someone in terms of contract. And We will get the application in and be part of the process. And other than that, I can be point only getting back to the Administration in terms of basically this being the request that We want to allow them to move forward.

Lynn Hurtak 04:13:19PM

Can I get a motion to request that staff come back with a resolution moving this money at the beginning of March as part of the -- just the -- no, the -- what part of the agenda am I talking about? I am sorry, yall. Just the consent agenda. Can I get a motion -- Council Member Viera made a motion to ask staff to come up with a resolution approving the social action arts funding. We are trying to get the social action arts money out the door. That is the reason for the speed. I would ask for the 19th but tomorrow is the deadline and that is not going to work. Council Member Viera is asking for March 6. Because today is the 6th. Sorry, March 5th. To come back March 5th. We have a second from Council Member Maniscalco. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? If there are any issues, I am sure Councilman Viera's office will be happy to help.

Bill Carlson 04:14:36PM

May I add one thing?

Lynn Hurtak 04:14:40PM

Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson 04:14:42PM

Your item on May 28, make a motion that says this is a discussion of strategy and not specific organizations to fund?

Lynn Hurtak 04:14:53PM

Sure. That is the intent, absolutely.

Bill Carlson 04:14:56PM

Is there a second?

Lynn Hurtak 04:15:00PM

May 26 workshop.

Bill Carlson 04:15:02PM

28th. My motion is to add a sentence at the end that says this is a discussion of strategy, not specific funding of organizations.

Lynn Hurtak 04:15:11PM

Okay. Do we have that?

Bill Carlson 04:15:18PM

IT doesnt say that on there now.

Lynn Hurtak 04:15:20PM

I am just asking. Motion from Councilman Carlson. Second from Council Member Young. All in favor.

Bill Carlson 04:15:27PM

Dont e-mail US of Individual -- We dont need thousands of e-mails.

Lynn Hurtak 04:15:34PM

E-mail about strategy. If you have an e-mail about strategy, I am talking to Miss Bluma about that. She is very helpful. Okay. Are we done? I am very proud of US. That was hard discussion. Yes, that was already approved. So -- so we are on to new business. I will start with council member Miranda.

Charlie Miranda 04:16:01PM

Thank you very much, Madam Chairwoman. I have three items I would like to discuss. Have a motion to have the Budget Office staff appear May 7, 2026, regular council session to be recognized of the association distinguished presentation award with special recognition given tonight strategic goals and strategic for fiscal year October 1, 2025.

Lynn Hurtak 04:16:29PM

Commendations and presentations.

Guido Maniscalco 04:16:32PM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 04:16:34PM

All in favor, say aye. Any opposed.

Charlie Miranda 04:16:37PM

Second one, I would like to make a motion to have the Accounting Office Staff April 2, 2026 to be recognized for receiving the Finance Association certificate of achievement for excellence for the fiscal year sending settlement 30, 2024.

Guido Maniscalco 04:16:56PM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 04:16:57PM

Commendations and presentations.

Charlie Miranda 04:17:00PM

Yes.

Lynn Hurtak 04:17:01PM

Motion from Council Member Miranda. Seconded from Council Member Maniscalco. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed?

Charlie Miranda 04:17:08PM

Thirdly, if I May. A lot of disruption in some of my district, district 6 where they get a permit and entitled to that and 50,000, 20,000 people. Police are there. People are urinating. I dont know about the smoking part but a lot of drinking. And I would like for staff to bring forward in the July 2026 cycle, language for regulatory of special events and not allowing alcohol on residential property by limiting properties that do not have a nonresidential use for no more than 100 persons.

Guido Maniscalco 04:17:46PM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 04:17:47PM

I have a motion from Council Member Miranda. Seconded from council member Maniscalco. I will tell you, Council Member Miranda, that my office is looking at that too. So the good news is, is that Miss Sharp told me she found out that they have already requested a permit for next year and that was denied.

Charlie Miranda 04:18:08PM

That was denied.

Lynn Hurtak 04:18:09PM

How do we do that going forward. Thank you for handling that because that e-mail was atrocious. Unreal. I have a motion and a second. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed.

Guido Maniscalco 04:18:20PM

Move to receive and file.

Charlie Miranda 04:18:24PM

I move to receive the document recusing myself on items we passed today -- or last week.

Lynn Hurtak 04:18:31PM

A motion from Council Member Miranda and a second from Council Member Maniscalco to accept that document. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed? Council Member Maniscalco

Guido Maniscalco 04:18:39PM

I made this motion the other day. But since the CRA meeting was cancelled, I wasnt able to clarify but put on agenda Thursday coming up before the CRA, present accommodation to the NAACP for their anniversary. IT has to be that date is a couple of things. Founding of the national organization is on that date, number one. I think IT was the 12th.

Charlie Miranda 04:19:05PM

Second.

Guido Maniscalco 04:19:06PM

1908 -- 1909. From the state level, NAACP officeholders. I want to put that on agenda. We had that CRA cancellation and no confusion.

Lynn Hurtak 04:19:28PM

Motion from Council Member Maniscalco. Seconded from Council Member Miranda. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed?

Guido Maniscalco 04:19:35PM

My office will prepare that commendation. Last week, Councilwoman Hurtak made a motion to tentatively continue the councilman salary discussion to the August '26 workshop. Now that I see the calendar, no workshop in August and work to amend that motion by Councilwoman Hurtak for the salary discussion, 46-58 to the settlement 24, 2026 workshop.

Lynn Hurtak 04:20:04PM

Thank you, Mr. Maniscalco, for doing that for me. Council Member Maniscalco's motion seconded by council member Miranda. On other bases we are doing that. We are getting ages and recommendations from the Charter Review Commission a week before. If IT is settled with the charter. That will be settled with the charter. If they dont take IT up we will take IT up. That is kind of the failsafe. A motion and a second. All in favor, say aye. Any opposed.

Guido Maniscalco 04:20:32PM

The last motion is, I would like to make a motion of a commendation to Tampa Bay Boulevard elementary school at macdill for their centennial celebration. I will have IT off-site but an exact date has yet to be termed.

Charlie Miranda 04:20:49PM

Second.

Lynn Hurtak 04:20:51PM

A motion from council member Maniscalco and a second from council member Miranda. I feel like you need your pipe for this one. [Laughter] we need you to zero in. There we go. [Laughter] okay. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed. [Laughter] so I did -- I remarked the last time that councilman Maniscalco wore that sweater. He said he needed a pipe. So he --

Guido Maniscalco 04:21:17PM

IT is not lit and nothing in IT. IT is empty.

Lynn Hurtak 04:21:21PM

Is that IT? Excellent. Council Member Young.

Naya Young 04:21:25PM

Okay. All righty. So I want to start off by, one, we had a -- or we had a very successful community town hall on safety in ybor. IT was a very well-attended. Thank you to staff that was present. We had our CRA, mobility, TPD and Code Enforcement. Really great conversation. Councilwoman Hurtak attended as well. And IT -- IT was really great, and so I just wanted to thank all the staffed that came out and made sure IT was possible. IT was great. I am looking forward to having more of them and continuing that conversation. I actually had some community members in other areas that came up to me and said can we have one of these in our community as well. They appreciated we were able to have an open conversation. And IT went -- I felt IT went very well and positive and what I want IT to be, and I was very happy about that. Happy about Black history month. In honor of Black history month, I dont know if you were able to attend, but East Tampa unveiled a new community mural. We were in council that day. So I could not attend at the Chloe Coney urban enterprise center on East Hillsborough Avenue and mural theme is up on the screen there "be all you can be." Six remarkable women. Miss Chloe Coney, the founder of Crc. Dr. Frankie A. Barry, a well-respected middleton high school educator. Councilwoman Gwen Miller, first african-american female elected to Tampa City Council. Patricia Pearce Coleman, City Of Tampa first african-american female police officer. Sylvia Rodriguez Kimbell, first elected official as a Hillsborough County commissioner. Theresa Emmanuel, first olympian and first african-american woman from Florida to compete in the olympic games. Amazing, amazing mural. Artist and designer. Her name is Michelle Sawyer and collaborated with students from the Pace Center Of Girls, Tampa Museum of Art and various supporters to put this mural together. I wanted to highlight that. IT is beautiful if -- I have driven by IT a few times. And I think IT is so important to have a fantastic job. Black history events happening. We have the annual Black history celebration tomorrow honoring our veterans hosted by the City Of Tampa Black history committee. IT is open to the public. If you have not seen one of those flyers around, you are probably walking with your eyes closed because they have been around everywhere. IT will be a fantastic celebration tomorrow and looking forward to that. And the City Of Tampa community engagement is hosting the Black love series every Sunday at the Tampa theatre at 3 pm. The -- I love the Tampa theatre. IT is just -- I -- IT is absolutely beautiful. I am really looking forward to going to this with me and my husband. I wanted to highlight this. Alsoi wanted to thank the council members with our last motion of passing the funding for the social Action Arts Fund, because that was one of Gwen Henderson's priorities before she passed to make sure those organizations were fully funded and we were able to do that today. So thank you. I am an avid tea drinker. You see me up here a lot time with a lot of coffee, but I love tea. I love yogi teas. They have quotes on the back of them. The one I had today was that compassion was your strength. Compassion and empathy especially now in this day and time. Remember up here, I am a public servant. I dont like to call myself a politician. Compassion and empathy is important.

Guido Maniscalco 04:25:48PM

You Are A Breath Of Fresh Air. Thank You. Thank you for bringing that up.

Naya Young 04:25:53PM

Thank you, Guido.

Lynn Hurtak 04:25:58PM

Council member Viera.

Luis Viera 04:26:00PM

Thank you, yes, maam, couple of things. A written staff report for a signalized light in New Tampa Boulevard to return on March 26. Again, a written staff report.

Lynn Hurtak 04:26:11PM

A motion from Councilman Viera. Seconded from council member Maniscalco. All in favor.

Guido Maniscalco 04:26:18PM

The Movie Theatre.

Luis Viera 04:26:22PM

Where my son works. Nothing to do with IT. I heard IT on the town hall. Second, I got a letter of support Of Our Street renaming for the late officer Morris Lopez. If you all have any questions or what you did on IT, please let me know now. My motion pursuant to the satisfied procedure under our ordinance or whatever IT Was On Street renamings. I motion a street renaming for the late officer Morris Lopez in Ybor City to be brought for a presentation recommendation by staff on March 26 under staff reports. I dont know if we have enough space on there.

Lynn Hurtak 04:27:00PM

Yes, we do.

Luis Viera 04:27:02PM

Ive I have a motion.

Lynn Hurtak 04:27:06PM

All in favor, say aye. Any opposed.

Luis Viera 04:27:08PM

Before I do my last motion I mentioned this and I got my aide to print IT out. February 13, 2026, Michael Phillips Foundation inaugural luncheon.

Lynn Hurtak 04:27:19PM

You want ups to put IT up?

Luis Viera 04:27:23PM

Councilman Carlson is going to put if on the zoom, the wolf or whatever that is. So anybody just please come to this. First annual one of that. And IT is named after Mike Phillips, done by Karen Clay, who is a wonderful individual. Just for that. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Lastly, if I May. I had done a motion on this before that got a lot of discussion. This is the motion that I think and, correct me if im wrong, that folks are comfortable with, motion to add to the February 26, 2026 workshop discussion of potential inclusion of a text amendment in the January 2027 cycle for the land development code to a portion of electronsc sign not to be activated in 15 seconds per message cycle, and I will give you all the language if IT passes. Limited use for an arena, stadium or venue. IT is what folks wanted. Unless if I am wrong that Council had a compromise.

Martin Shelby 04:28:24PM

Date again?

Luis Viera 04:28:26PM

February 26.

Lynn Hurtak 04:28:28PM

I have a motion from Councilman Viera. Second from council member Maniscalco. And that is the conversation in the February workshop. Okay, all in favor. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Do you want to read that vote?

Clerk 04:28:50PM

Motion passes with Carlson voting no.

Lynn Hurtak 04:29:01PM

I am voting no on that.

Luis Viera 04:29:02PM

Want me to repeat IT? 4-2, correct

Lynn Hurtak 04:29:07PM

Yes. And Clendenin absent.

Clerk 04:29:14PM

Motion passes with Carlson and Carlson voting no and Clendenin absent.

Lynn Hurtak 04:29:24PM

Okay, Councilman Carlson. I will hand this over because I have two. On August 7, 2025, TPD presented an in-person staff report On Howard Avenue evidence projects. Six months and construction bidding and construction process is now complete. I would like this council to hear another in-person staff report in advance of a resolution coming to US for approval to move forward. What that means is I would like staff to come and present to US two weeks before they bring US a resolution. If they bring US a resolution, were not going to hear IT. Thats what this motion says, until weve heard an update on IT.

Guido Maniscalco 4:30:00PM

We have a motion from Council Member Hurtak. Second from Council Member Carlson. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

Lynn Hurtak 4:30:07PM

Thank you. I motion that TPD and contract -- im sorry. This is all -- whoops. This was one motion. I motion that TPD and contract administration provide an in-person updated project status review on March 5, 2026. In advance of that meeting, Council should direct specific questions related to this project to our Budget Analyst who will work with my office and staff to incorporate all desired information into the March staff report. Sorry about that.

Guido Maniscalco 4:30:35PM

Is that a new motion?

Lynn Hurtak 4:30:36PM

Its all part of one motion. Ill rescind my first motion.

Martin Shelby 4:30:41PM

The first motion was set for what day?

Lynn Hurtak 4:30:43PM

There was no first date. I read IT wrong.

Martin Shelby 4:30:46PM

I see.

Lynn Hurtak 4:30:48PM

Im pulling that motion.

Guido Maniscalco 4:30:51PM

Rescind the previous motion.

Lynn Hurtak 4:30:53PM

All that was, was a paragraph and I read IT wrong. All of this goes together. I have IT typed out. The motion is for TPD and Contract Admin to provide an in-person updated project status review on March 5, 2026. In advance of the meeting, Council should direct specific questions related to The Howard Avenue evidence and control capital project to our Budget Analyst to work with my office and staff to incorporate all desired information into the March staff report. After that a resolution can come forward.

Guido Maniscalco 4:31:30PM

And rescinding the previous motion. Dont need to. Okay. Second from Councilman Carlson. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Anything else, maam? Motion to receive and file.

Lynn Hurtak 4:31:40PM

I have a motion to receive and file from Councilman Maniscalco and a second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Okay. We are adjourned. [ sounding gavel disclaimer: this file represents an unedited version of realtime captioning which should neither be relied upon for complete accuracy nor used as a verbatim transcript. Any person who needs a verbatim transcript of the proceedings May need to hire a court reporter. © - City Of Tampa (813) 274-8211

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